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[Killjoy Cutter]

nicethugbert wrote...

Bostur wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

So, I don't see how BW dumbed down DA2 except if you compare the entire DA series to BG, NWN1, NWN2, etc.  Clearly, DA is dumbed down compared to any D&D based game such as BG, NWN1, NWN2, etc.  Yet, DA:O is Teh Awesome Sauce On Roids even though DA:O nd DA2 have largely the same ruleset and DA2 is a tweaked version of DA:O.

So, all it takes is just a little speed increase and implied dialog instead of explicit dialog and the world ends, it's not a true RPG, blah blah blah, oh noes.

There were a few other changes made to DA2. Encounter design, world design, UI changes. Most of those are some pretty massive simplifications.

In the player reviews on these forums people have made long bulleted lists of things they thought worked poorly. Its a bit more than just speed increase and dialogue choices.

You are totally dodging the fact that DA:O is dumbed down compared to it's predecesors, yet, no one around here says that.  People who love DA:O, love a dumbed down game.

I guess it depends on what you mean by "dumbed down". 

I could never get into any of the previous games, as the systems were largely computerized clones or derivatives of D&D, and to be blunt, I gave up on D&D and all its variants about 15 years ago.

[Volourn]

"I said DA:O was a dumbed down version of BG and NWN etc."

No. This is baloney. How is DA dumbed down from BG? That's the most lauhable thing i have ever read ever. HAHAHAHA!

BG is dumbed down D&D. DA is a smartened up BG.

[Any0day]

Volourn wrote...

"I said DA:O was a dumbed down version of BG and NWN etc."

No. This is baloney. How is DA dumbed down from BG? That's the most lauhable thing i have ever read ever. HAHAHAHA!

BG is dumbed down D&D. DA is a smartened up BG.

Everything you post is ''baloney.'' I haven't seen you post anything constructive ever.

Anyway - DA was a 'spiritual successor' to BG, they never claimed they were trying to emulate it - there's a difference. I fail to see how BG was a 'dumbed down' version of D&D, unless you are figuring in that some of the math was off (unoffically patched btw) and it didn't have every single spell available -- especially considering you're comparing DA with BG (lol?). If anything, DA is the severely ''dumbed down'' version considering how hard it tries to emulate d&d without actually being d&d... 

DA:O was the 'spiritual successor' because it nailed in the story/ atmosphere and depth department, not for it's shallow d&d emulation.

Modifié par Any0day, 20 avril 2011 - 07:59 .

[Volourn]

"fail to see how BG was a 'dumbed down' version of D&D, unless you are figuring in that some of the math was off (unoffically patched btw) and it didn't have every single spell available -- especially considering you're comparing DA with BG (lol?). If anything, DA is the severely ''dumbed down'' version considering how hard it tries to emulate d&d without actually being d&d... "

BG cut out secondary skills, non weapon proficiencies, rogue abiltiies were simplified (somewhat fixed in BG2), lack of specialty priests (somewhat fixed in BG2), a dumbed down reputatrion system that could be cheated by simply paying money at temples, lack of real role-playing and choice, shallow one note characters that simply don't change ever (improved greatly in BG2), lack of targeted attacks.... need I go on?

DA, in comparison to BG, has mukliple starting points, warriors that had more options in combat, non combat skills, characters that grow, deeper writing, less black vs white, more choices, and so on so forth.

Yup... but DA is 'dumbed down BG'. Give me a break. i lvoed BG when ity came out but it's nowhere in the same league as DA when it comes to sophistication, depth, and actual role-playing. BG2 is an improvement on BG2 but not quite at the level of modern BIO RPGs including the ActioN RPG ME series.

[AAHook2]

Never played Baldur's Gate. Still I think Origins was a very complex game and I never felt it was supposed to be anything but its own animal.
I see the term "spiritual successor" a lot. I'm not exactly sure how many people actually care about Origins being anything but what it is.
I tried KOTOR on a console. I found it kind of fun, but eventually it became tedious. I'm certain it's a fine game. I just wasn't into it at that time and I never did finish it. It was Star Wars, and of course, set in space. I wasn't into an RPG in space. I'm still not into it. I never did play Mass Effect, though I've heard good things about it.
I had just finished Fable 3, and I was already having mixed feelings about it when my favorite profile caught the infamous "Forever Falling" bug. I was very annoyed. I was on the message boards complaining about several of the issues with that game when someone mentioned Dragon Age origins being an excellent alternative. Well, here I am...at this point I'm not driven to finding an alternative to Dragon Age just yet, although I'm hearing The Witcher 2 is supposed to be the next thing.
I really want Origins back. I want an RPG with party dynamics, tactics, great storytelling, customization...I want options to play as different races, classes, disciplines, different sexes so that I can have conversations with different people who play the game.
I mean, I tried Oblivion, and I couldn't get past 3 hours of playing it. It was a lonely affair.
Origins was simply magic.
It's sad now that we're likely not to see a game of its quality and complexity any time soon.

I've heard that someone is trying to make a video game based on Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series, but that's probably years off. I've also heard rumors of Dark Alliance making another appearance on the console in the years to come. Of course that's been going around for years.

New thread maybe? What's the next "Origins"? Is it out there? Will Bioware shape up and produce it themselves with Dragon Age 3?
I think the consensus is that Dragon Age 2 is definitely not it.

[Otterwarden]

AAHook2 wrote...

Never played Baldur's Gate. Still I think Origins was a very complex game and I never felt it was supposed to be anything but its own animal.
I see the term "spiritual successor" a lot. I'm not exactly sure how many people actually care about Origins being anything but what it is.
I tried KOTOR on a console. I found it kind of fun, but eventually it became tedious. I'm certain it's a fine game. I just wasn't into it at that time and I never did finish it. It was Star Wars, and of course, set in space. I wasn't into an RPG in space. I'm still not into it. I never did play Mass Effect, though I've heard good things about it.

I didn't try Mass Effect because I heard it has RPG elements.  I tried it out because it was Bioware and I'm a Star Trek fan.  Wouldn't call myself a Trekkie, but I've seen every episode of all the series (some multiple x X times), so it's proabably a case of "me thinks the lady doth protest too much".  Mass Effect was immensely enjoyable for me because it was like be given an opportunity to be Captain Kirk/Janeway, and that was just too

"Spiritual successor" to me meant that they were going to finally divorce themselves from the licensing restrictions that were starting to strangle them both creatively and financially, and take all that fan feedback that they had accumulated over the years and run with it.  Hence, we got moments like the fireside chats with your wandering teams, and all the other poignant touches that showed how much they had understood the fan :wub:that had come their way.

Edit:  Should probably clarify that there are obviously Star Trek related games available (which I haven't played).  Mass Effect enabled me to encounter a universe with new species (like the Salarians and the Hanar), without having to fit them into an already well established framework.

Modifié par Otterwarden, 20 avril 2011 - 09:46 .

[Otterwarden]

Shadowbanner wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Shadowbanner wrote...

Amazon UK has lowered the price of DA2 yet again. Selling now at only 12 pounds the PC version.

It's even selling cheaper than the ultimate edition of DA:O.

Ive been watching the Amazon PS3 price all day it started at £27 went upto £30 and now it's down to £19.98. I just happen to have the window open on games.

What a roller coaster.

uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Dragon-Age-2-PC-DVD/product/B003VM8HFE

I've definitely been getting dizzy on the PC ride...

[derpderp2]

DAO is a "dumbed down" BG, but making a game the size and scope of BG is literally impossible in today's development climate. DAO found a good balance of keeping traditional feel and mechanics, while bringing the technology up to par and using that technology to cover the holes left by not being able to make a massive game. DA2, on the other hand, went to far away from traditional RPG roots, and was a much worse game for it. I hope Bioware sees that there is still a market for traditional RPGs, and that noone else is targeting that market, so it would be good pr-wise, and profitable, to continue making at least a few more hardcore DAOesque RPGs.

[Embargoed]

How did anyone even roleplay in the first game? I found it extremely hard, mostly cause the Warden was an uninteresting character. Picking dialogue options made it REALLY hard to roleplay the way I wanted, considering I couldn't decide what to say. And since I wasn't even saying anything at all, the "conversations" quickly devolved into "interrogations" for me. If all I'm gonna do is ask questions so the other characters have an excuse to go into long monologues about themselves, then why should I care about the ability to choose my choices?

Honestly, the Mass Effect series has spoiled me. I can't stand not having the PC emote and express himself. It just makes the conversations feel bland, drab, and wholly uninteresting, not to mention unfair.

It came down to this for me:

BioWare can't give us the ability to speak freely, that's impossible. So let's throw out roleplay. Reading lines in your head or pretending to hear voices is NOT roleplay. AT ALL. Even with the option to pick and choose between dialogue options, you still aren't roleplaying.

BioWare is giving me a silent PC, so the PC is now a cardboard prop that's being used to drive the plot. Seriously, can anyone remember a single line of dialogue that was memorable in DA:O, PC-wise? None of what he said was interesting, nor did it make me care about him.

In the end, I guess I tend to think in terms of "characters" and not how close I can make the guy on the screen like me. Still, I'd like to think that if I were a character in a story, I'd be interesting; not the guy who stands there asking questions and makes no difference at all.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Embargoed wrote...

How did anyone even roleplay in the first game? I found it extremely hard, mostly cause the Warden was an uninteresting character. Picking dialogue options made it REALLY hard to roleplay the way I wanted, considering I couldn't decide what to say. And since I wasn't even saying anything at all, the "conversations" quickly devolved into "interrogations" for me. If all I'm gonna do is ask questions so the other characters have an excuse to go into long monologues about themselves, then why should I care about the ability to choose my choices?

Honestly, the Mass Effect series has spoiled me. I can't stand not having the PC emote and express himself. It just makes the conversations feel bland, drab, and wholly uninteresting, not to mention unfair.

It came down to this for me:

BioWare can't give us the ability to speak freely, that's impossible. So let's throw out roleplay. Reading lines in your head or pretending to hear voices is NOT roleplay. AT ALL. Even with the option to pick and choose between dialogue options, you still aren't roleplaying.

BioWare is giving me a silent PC, so the PC is now a cardboard prop that's being used to drive the plot. Seriously, can anyone remember a single line of dialogue that was memorable in DA:O, PC-wise? None of what he said was interesting, nor did it make me care about him.

In the end, I guess I tend to think in terms of "characters" and not how close I can make the guy on the screen like me. Still, I'd like to think that if I were a character in a story, I'd be interesting; not the guy who stands there asking questions and makes no difference at all.

You're really making two different points here.

I agree that the lines given by the PC in DA:O were not always the most immersive, as in, they represented choices in the dialogue tree as opposed to actual dialogue.

However, unlike DA 2's approach where the dialogue trees were slimmed down (your choices were to say the same thing in 3 different tones), a PC voice added and the wheel w/ paraphrasing, the obvious solution seems to be just having better lines for the PC to say.

I think Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines handled this aspect very well, and still has the best PC responses and dialogue in an RPG I can remember. Malkavian dialogue, anyone?

I'm still in the no voice/no wheel camp regarding this issue, but not in terms of not having voice and not having wheel, but simply allow both if possible.

I think it's something that wouldn't be done easily, but in a hypothetical Dragon Age 3 that isn't rushed by EA to make a quick dollar, I'd like a system where the list w/ text and wheel w/ paraphrase can be set in the menu, and where PC voices can be chosen at character creation (voiced or silent).

At the very least, I want the ability to chose and not be shoe horned by Bioware. I think that's fair, really. Maybe not realistic, but fair.

By on the whole, I'd be giddy if Bioware looks at how conversations are done in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines and tries to implement a similar system for Dragon Age 3. At least the PC dialogue responses are worth looking at.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 20 avril 2011 - 11:47 .

[Phedre8]

OP I agree with pretty much everything you have to say. I'm a 21 year old female gamer who absolutely loves RPG games, and play almost exclusively on the xbox. I stumbled upon DA:O by accident then discovered the ME universe, and I'm happy to say Bioware has owned my soul ever since. There was something off about DA2 and you're right when you say that it's a cross between an RPG and a button-masher.

I've played through DA:O, ME and ME2 at least 6 times each(which is no doubt unhealthy, but I don't really care) and it was almost painful playing through DA2 for the second time. Hopefully Bioware will fix this for Dragon age 3.

[AAHook2]

Embargoed:
In Origins I found when roleplaying as a dwarf it was quite easy become immersed in the story. I like the fact that NPCs alter their responses according to you being a dwarf. Small example (no pun intended):

Little boy at the bridge in Lothering is lost. He asks the Warden if he's a dwarf and you can choose to say; "Did my height give me away?" The boy goes on to say that he heard from his father that dwarfs are greedy and that the Warden is surprisingly nothing like that. He basically reflects the human perspective of what a dwarf is supposed to be perceived as.
Now 20 feet over there's a displaced family of elves who you can choose to help and they mention that they have heard that dwarves are reknowned for their generosity.
Two completely different characterizations of what dwarves are perceived as, and this served to inform me that I could play it either way.
Humans believe that Dwarves are greedy and mistrustful. Elves have a different opinion. You know that Dwarves on the surface are different from those in Orzammar as well. It's all instruction on how to play your character if you so choose.

Side note on the elves and their relationship with Dwarves. In Witch Hunt you find out that there may be a concrete reason why some elves regard dwarves as being generous. I thought this note was very slick and quite rewarding when I realized what it was.

You see, this small example of character development shows a depth that is very hard to find in Dragon Age 2. A small moment from Lothering has roots in something that is later revealed in Witch Hunt.
Truly amazing depth of storytelling.
I'm absolutely certain that those who didn't play a dwarf character had a very different reaction to the two interactions.
Dragon Age 2 on the other hand, struggles to have differentiating interactions when it comes to a character who is a warrior vs. a character who is a mage. Odd seeing as that is the primary conflict in the game.
It reflects in the dialogue choice. I didn't have NPC's recognizing that I was a mage even though I just slaughtered two dozen warriors with magic not 20 yards from them. It is I who have to mention that I'm a mage and even then their response isn't terribly different from what would have been said had I never mentioned it. Even the few examples where the reaction did change the response, it rang false simply because of the fact that I had to mention it, even though I have a big magic staff on my back. Quite shocking when in Origins, the NPCs were rightly able to identify me as a dwarf immediately and almost always replied to the fact in some way.
Man, I love being a dwarf.

Modifié par AAHook2, 21 avril 2011 - 06:23 .

[bussinrounds]

Volourn wrote...

"fail to see how BG was a 'dumbed down' version of D&D, unless you are figuring in that some of the math was off (unoffically patched btw) and it didn't have every single spell available -- especially considering you're comparing DA with BG (lol?). If anything, DA is the severely ''dumbed down'' version considering how hard it tries to emulate d&d without actually being d&d... "

BG cut out secondary skills, non weapon proficiencies, rogue abiltiies were simplified (somewhat fixed in BG2), lack of specialty priests (somewhat fixed in BG2), a dumbed down reputatrion system that could be cheated by simply paying money at temples, lack of real role-playing and choice, shallow one note characters that simply don't change ever (improved greatly in BG2), lack of targeted attacks.... need I go on?

DA, in comparison to BG, has mukliple starting points, warriors that had more options in combat, non combat skills, characters that grow, deeper writing, less black vs white, more choices, and so on so forth.

Yup... but DA is 'dumbed down BG'. Give me a break. i lvoed BG when ity came out but it's nowhere in the same league as DA when it comes to sophistication, depth, and actual role-playing. BG2 is an improvement on BG2 but not quite at the level of modern BIO RPGs including the ActioN RPG ME series.

   You are lost.

[AlanC9]

bussinrounds wrote...

Volourn wrote...

"fail to see how BG was a 'dumbed down' version of D&D, unless you are figuring in that some of the math was off (unoffically patched btw) and it didn't have every single spell available -- especially considering you're comparing DA with BG (lol?). If anything, DA is the severely ''dumbed down'' version considering how hard it tries to emulate d&d without actually being d&d... "

BG cut out secondary skills, non weapon proficiencies, rogue abiltiies were simplified (somewhat fixed in BG2), lack of specialty priests (somewhat fixed in BG2), a dumbed down reputatrion system that could be cheated by simply paying money at temples, lack of real role-playing and choice, shallow one note characters that simply don't change ever (improved greatly in BG2), lack of targeted attacks.... need I go on?

DA, in comparison to BG, has mukliple starting points, warriors that had more options in combat, non combat skills, characters that grow, deeper writing, less black vs white, more choices, and so on so forth.

Yup... but DA is 'dumbed down BG'. Give me a break. i lvoed BG when ity came out but it's nowhere in the same league as DA when it comes to sophistication, depth, and actual role-playing. BG2 is an improvement on BG2 but not quite at the level of modern BIO RPGs including the ActioN RPG ME series.

   You are lost.

So you're utterly certain Volourn's wrong... and yet, completely incapable of articulating why he's wrong.

Dude, at least make an attempt.

[v_ware]

DA2 is mediocre. No matter what audience you are.

DAO was good.

[Persephone]

v_ware wrote...

DA2 is mediocre. No matter what audience you are.

DAO was good.

Not to everyone, I fear. My roommate thinks the entire DA franchise is mediocre garbage. She prefers games like the Might and Magic series.

What is she then? A heretic? Absolutes simply won't work. Can't people just accept that one man's trash is another man's jewel?

[Maccyds]

Persephone, I just signed up to ask, do you have life? Seriously, I read these forums from time to time, and there is ONE person who is ALWAYS posting and that one person is YOU! I mean, come on, get a life, go outside, enjoy the fresh air, stop being cramped up in your hole eating crisps/pizza and arguing about if DA2 is a good game or not, because seriously, you only live once. Had to get that off my chest, because I've been wanting to say that for weeks.

[AkiKishi]

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone, I just signed up to ask, do you have life? Seriously, I read these forums from time to time, and there is ONE person who is ALWAYS posting and that one person is YOU! I mean, come on, get a life, go outside, enjoy the fresh air, stop being cramped up in your hole eating crisps/pizza and arguing about if DA2 is a good game or not, because seriously, you only live once. Had to get that off my chest, because I've been wanting to say that for weeks.

Or she could be at work using multiple windows. Not much else to do if you are using the computer anyway for some other purpose.

[Persephone]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone, I just signed up to ask, do you have life? Seriously, I read these forums from time to time, and there is ONE person who is ALWAYS posting and that one person is YOU! I mean, come on, get a life, go outside, enjoy the fresh air, stop being cramped up in your hole eating crisps/pizza and arguing about if DA2 is a good game or not, because seriously, you only live once. Had to get that off my chest, because I've been wanting to say that for weeks.

Or she could be at work using multiple windows. Not much else to do if you are using the computer anyway for some other purpose.

While I am not at the office right now (Supposedly I am on holiday), I still do much of my work on the Laptop. I even take it with me everywhere, due to heavy work correspondence. Shocking, I know. Posting on forums is usually a stress relief in my case.

[Maccyds]

Persephone wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone, I just signed up to ask, do you have life? Seriously, I read these forums from time to time, and there is ONE person who is ALWAYS posting and that one person is YOU! I mean, come on, get a life, go outside, enjoy the fresh air, stop being cramped up in your hole eating crisps/pizza and arguing about if DA2 is a good game or not, because seriously, you only live once. Had to get that off my chest, because I've been wanting to say that for weeks.

Or she could be at work using multiple windows. Not much else to do if you are using the computer anyway for some other purpose.

While I am not at the office right now (Supposedly I am on holiday), I still do much of my work on the Laptop. I even take it with me everywhere, due to heavy work correspondence. Shocking, I know. Posting on forums is usually a stress relief in my case.

You say you're on holiday, and you go on DA forums? Really? Wow...

[Persephone]

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone, I just signed up to ask, do you have life? Seriously, I read these forums from time to time, and there is ONE person who is ALWAYS posting and that one person is YOU! I mean, come on, get a life, go outside, enjoy the fresh air, stop being cramped up in your hole eating crisps/pizza and arguing about if DA2 is a good game or not, because seriously, you only live once. Had to get that off my chest, because I've been wanting to say that for weeks.

Or she could be at work using multiple windows. Not much else to do if you are using the computer anyway for some other purpose.

While I am not at the office right now (Supposedly I am on holiday), I still do much of my work on the Laptop. I even take it with me everywhere, due to heavy work correspondence. Shocking, I know. Posting on forums is usually a stress relief in my case.

You say you're on holiday, and you go on DA forums? Really? Wow...

While I'm working on the laptop, yes. I'm sadly not on a holiday in Greece, just having some time off. Still working a lot every day.

As for a life...I have as much of a life as those who bludgeon every positive DAII to death and spend hours every day to belittle, mock and trash those who dare to like DAII. Works both ways, you see?

[Maccyds]

Persephone wrote...

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone, I just signed up to ask, do you have life? Seriously, I read these forums from time to time, and there is ONE person who is ALWAYS posting and that one person is YOU! I mean, come on, get a life, go outside, enjoy the fresh air, stop being cramped up in your hole eating crisps/pizza and arguing about if DA2 is a good game or not, because seriously, you only live once. Had to get that off my chest, because I've been wanting to say that for weeks.

Or she could be at work using multiple windows. Not much else to do if you are using the computer anyway for some other purpose.

While I am not at the office right now (Supposedly I am on holiday), I still do much of my work on the Laptop. I even take it with me everywhere, due to heavy work correspondence. Shocking, I know. Posting on forums is usually a stress relief in my case.

You say you're on holiday, and you go on DA forums? Really? Wow...

While I'm working on the laptop, yes. I'm sadly not on a holiday in Greece, just having some time off. Still working a lot every day.

As for a life...I have as much of a life as those who bludgeon every positive DAII to death and spend hours every day to belittle, mock and trash those who dare to like DAII. Works both ways, you see?

Everyone on these forums arguing about a game should get a life, but I'm specifically talking about you as I always see you commenting, every bloody time. It annoys me that someone would waste their life away just like that. So to say that ^ doesn't really mean anything, unless you're admitting you don't have a life.................................................................................................................................

[Teredan]

Maccyds wrote...

Everyone on these forums arguing about a game should get a life, but I'm specifically talking about you as I always see you commenting, every bloody time. It annoys me that someone would waste their life away just like that. So to say that ^ doesn't really mean anything, unless you're admitting you don't have a life.................................................................................................................................

Yeah sorry, but as I happen to have the skill of multitasking I can post on the forums, IM with friends, play solitaire and read news from sites such as ign,siliconera etc etc and still be bored.

Modifié par Teredan, 21 avril 2011 - 10:13 .

[Persephone]

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone, I just signed up to ask, do you have life? Seriously, I read these forums from time to time, and there is ONE person who is ALWAYS posting and that one person is YOU! I mean, come on, get a life, go outside, enjoy the fresh air, stop being cramped up in your hole eating crisps/pizza and arguing about if DA2 is a good game or not, because seriously, you only live once. Had to get that off my chest, because I've been wanting to say that for weeks.

Or she could be at work using multiple windows. Not much else to do if you are using the computer anyway for some other purpose.

While I am not at the office right now (Supposedly I am on holiday), I still do much of my work on the Laptop. I even take it with me everywhere, due to heavy work correspondence. Shocking, I know. Posting on forums is usually a stress relief in my case.

You say you're on holiday, and you go on DA forums? Really? Wow...

While I'm working on the laptop, yes. I'm sadly not on a holiday in Greece, just having some time off. Still working a lot every day.

As for a life...I have as much of a life as those who bludgeon every positive DAII to death and spend hours every day to belittle, mock and trash those who dare to like DAII. Works both ways, you see?

Everyone on these forums arguing about a game should get a life, but I'm specifically talking about you as I always see you commenting, every bloody time. It annoys me that someone would waste their life away just like that. So to say that ^ doesn't really mean anything, unless you're admitting you don't have a life.................................................................................................................................

Why are we turning this into a personal discussion again? I don't see how I'm obligated to justify my choices here. Personally, I love my life. Good job, best man in the world, a horse to keep me fit & awesome friends online as well as offline. Case closed.

[Maccyds]

Persephone wrote...

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Maccyds wrote...

Persephone, I just signed up to ask, do you have life? Seriously, I read these forums from time to time, and there is ONE person who is ALWAYS posting and that one person is YOU! I mean, come on, get a life, go outside, enjoy the fresh air, stop being cramped up in your hole eating crisps/pizza and arguing about if DA2 is a good game or not, because seriously, you only live once. Had to get that off my chest, because I've been wanting to say that for weeks.

Or she could be at work using multiple windows. Not much else to do if you are using the computer anyway for some other purpose.

While I am not at the office right now (Supposedly I am on holiday), I still do much of my work on the Laptop. I even take it with me everywhere, due to heavy work correspondence. Shocking, I know. Posting on forums is usually a stress relief in my case.

You say you're on holiday, and you go on DA forums? Really? Wow...

While I'm working on the laptop, yes. I'm sadly not on a holiday in Greece, just having some time off. Still working a lot every day.

As for a life...I have as much of a life as those who bludgeon every positive DAII to death and spend hours every day to belittle, mock and trash those who dare to like DAII. Works both ways, you see?

Everyone on these forums arguing about a game should get a life, but I'm specifically talking about you as I always see you commenting, every bloody time. It annoys me that someone would waste their life away just like that. So to say that ^ doesn't really mean anything, unless you're admitting you don't have a life.................................................................................................................................

Why are we turning this into a personal discussion again? I don't see how I'm obligated to justify my choices here. Personally, I love my life. Good job, best man in the world, a horse to keep me fit & awesome friends online as well as offline. Case closed.

Case closed? What are we, in CSI?