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[Fiery Phoenix]

^ Yup, it definitely does.

[Razagon]

They didn't. 50k years ago when they came for the Protheans, there were humans on Earth. Obviously they didn't touch them.

[lolfanboi]

I thought it would be an interesting possibility.

[bald man in a boat]

Dinosaurs still exist. They just have a different name now. I think they're called "Traditional RPGs"

*Puts on flame retardant suit and runs for the door, echoes of evil laughter shattering the sunday air.*

[The Shadow Broker]

dont think so, they were no technologically advanced or any kind of menace to their supreme reign..didnt even reach the citadel neither even one basic construction or comunication system..
Its like they are not interested in thresher maws or varren

But well who knows..

[Eterna]

grimkillah wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

grimkillah wrote...

It is a common misconception that dinosaurs were extinct. In fact birds are their direct descendant, so in a way dinosaur are still with us, we just call them birds now.

 Birds are an offshoot, just a small group of theropods that was able to diversify in the last few million years. They are connected to dinosaurs, but not enough to warrant being called dinosaurs. They are there own group now.

 It would be like calling a frog a fish.

Granted the dinosaur that evolved into bird represent a very small perentage of all dinaosaur that ever existed, but extinction imply no direct descendant left, while birds contradict that statment.

 Extinction does not have to be a whole group of Animals. Wolly Mammoths are extinct but their relatives still exist today.
 
 What happend to the dinosaurs was a mass extinction. Dinosaurs are extinct, only a small offshoot of them survived, Birds are not dinosaurs. Dinosaurs had two groups called Saurischians and Ornithischians,  birds do not belong in these groups, rather they diversified so much as to have their own order.

 Its the same thing with amphibians, Amphibians descended from Fish, however due to their adaptions became their own Order, and though they can be traced back to fish they are in no way fish.

[aimlessgun]

AVENGE ME MY EARTH BROTHERS!

[grimkillah]

I did not claim extinction means the entire group of animal. Mammoths are extinct because there are no direct descendant of them left in the world, if the British Royal family become extinct it doesn't mean their relatives are also died out, but rather, no direct descendant of the Royal family is left.
As for dinosaurs, they suffered a mass killing event, not an extinction. Every biologist know now that birds are evolved from a group of bipedal saurischian dinosaurs during the end of the Mesozoic and the beginning of Cenozoic period, in another word, they survived the mass killing event that wiped out most of other dinosaurs. So birds are a direct and clear descendant of the dinosaurs.

[Olwydd]

Eterna5 wrote...

Extinction does not have to be a whole group of Animals. Wolly Mammoths are extinct but their relatives still exist today.
 
 What
happend to the dinosaurs was a mass extinction. Dinosaurs are extinct,
only a small offshoot of them survived, Birds are not dinosaurs.
Dinosaurs had two groups called Saurischians and Ornithischians,
 birds do not belong in these groups, rather they diversified so much as
to have their own order.

 Its the same thing with amphibians,
Amphibians descended from Fish, however due to their adaptions became
their own Order, and though they can be traced back to fish they are in
no way fish.

The problem is, Aves (birds) is pretty much an arbitrary classification insofar as it is considered seperate from Dinosauria. Aves is a member of Maniraptora, which is considered a dinosaur clade; they fall under Theropoda, which is a sub-order of Saurischia. Ergo, birds are, in fact, dinosaurs, thus not all dinosaurs are extinct.

And another point: just because something can be traced back to fish, it does very much make them a fish. You cannot simply hand-wave away lines of descent simply because they don't correspond well to the  simplified and arbitrary classification systems used in common non-scientific nomenclature. That would be like denying that you are a tetrapod of the clade Sarcopterygii. You can do it until you're blue in the face, but it doesn't change anything. So congratulations, you are a fish. We are all technically 'fish'. Huzzah!

Modifié par Olwydd, 17 avril 2011 - 06:29 .

[Reaper Bob]

When I look at a Krogan, I think dinosaurs exist in ME..

[lolwut666]

Reaper Bob wrote...

When I look at a Krogan, I think dinosaurs exist in ME..

Hey, Bob. Did you guys wipe out the dinosaurs or not?

[Thargorichiban]

The Shadow Broker wrote...

dont think so, they were no technologically advanced or any kind of menace to their supreme reign..didnt even reach the citadel neither even one basic construction or comunication system..
Its like they are not interested in thresher maws or varren

But well who knows..

Well theoretically they could have had culture/technology/civilizations. The problem is that they were wiped out several million years ago and any sort of signs (buildings, tech, etc.) would have been wiped out by a combination of time/nature.

If you've watched those Discovery specials about what would happen if humanity suddenly dissapeared from Earth you'll realize that it isn't far fetched to think we could be missing a huge chunk of that time period's history.

[Black Raptor]

Thargorichiban wrote...

The Shadow Broker wrote...

dont think so, they were no technologically advanced or any kind of menace to their supreme reign..didnt even reach the citadel neither even one basic construction or comunication system..
Its like they are not interested in thresher maws or varren

But well who knows..

Well theoretically they could have had culture/technology/civilizations. The problem is that they were wiped out several million years ago and any sort of signs (buildings, tech, etc.) would have been wiped out by a combination of time/nature.

If you've watched those Discovery specials about what would happen if humanity suddenly dissapeared from Earth you'll realize that it isn't far fetched to think we could be missing a huge chunk of that time period's history.

Except we are still finding dinosaur bones. Evidence of their existence is present, but nothing survived of their architecture? Surely it would be the other way around if Reapers "reap" organic life...

[bluestrider25]

I too doubt it, only because it sounds like the Reapers wait until a specie's civilization accumulates advanced technology and unearths mineral deposits making it easier for them to assimilate them into their collective. Don't they enslave some species to do the labor too? Plus with the citadel, they're able to locate planets with high end resources.

IMO the Protheans were so advanced because on the previous Reaper cycle, the Protheans had our current level of technology and since they weren't part of the citadel because they didn't reach space or whatever the Reapers missed them. So, the Protheans had 50,000 years to advance and study the relay technology and thats why they managed to fight for so long.

Modifié par bluestrider25, 17 avril 2011 - 10:37 .

[The Shadow Broker]

Black Raptor wrote...

Thargorichiban wrote...

The Shadow Broker wrote...

dont think so, they were no technologically advanced or any kind of menace to their supreme reign..didnt even reach the citadel neither even one basic construction or comunication system..
Its like they are not interested in thresher maws or varren

But well who knows..

Well theoretically they could have had culture/technology/civilizations. The problem is that they were wiped out several million years ago and any sort of signs (buildings, tech, etc.) would have been wiped out by a combination of time/nature.

If you've watched those Discovery specials about what would happen if humanity suddenly dissapeared from Earth you'll realize that it isn't far fetched to think we could be missing a huge chunk of that time period's history.

Except we are still finding dinosaur bones. Evidence of their existence is present, but nothing survived of their architecture? Surely it would be the other way around if Reapers "reap" organic life...

Plus with T-REX arms you cant build ****

[Annihilator27]

Chewin3 wrote...

Coach Beer wrote...

You're funny.

LMAO, Commander Rex did the best job they could manage.

[KillerGuy3]

aimlessgun wrote...



AVENGE ME MY EARTH BROTHERS!

I Will don't worry you will be avenged....

[Akizora]

If they did Bioware will have officially become a company that sucks. This is the oldest cliché in the book that the great ancient evil in the galaxy was the one that ZOMG wiped out the dinosaurs. That the evil invader made the dinosaurs extinct and have returned to finish the job on the humans.

[Rurik_Niall]

Don't be silly, everyone knows Chuck Norris wiped out the dinosaurs.

[bluestrider25]

OMG!!! What if the Reapers did wipe out Earth once....and they brought organic species as slaves here to mine and dig up the resources....and they left that organic species here once they were done assimilating all that was valuable to them!? What if we're the offspring of that organic species??? And thats why humans come out of seemingly no where. DUNT DUNT DUN!

[didymos1120]

Eterna5 wrote...

grimkillah wrote...

It is a common misconception that dinosaurs were extinct. In fact birds are their direct descendant, so in a way dinosaur are still with us, we just call them birds now.

 Birds are an offshoot, just a small group of theropods that was able to diversify in the last few million years. They are connected to dinosaurs, but not enough to warrant being called dinosaurs. They are there own group now.

 It would be like calling a frog a fish.

In cladistic terms, they are dinosaurs.  Likewise, frogs are fish. Well, sort of.  It's more like "contained within".

[R3c0nn4155nc3]

Would the Reaper's wipe you out if you never advanced along the line THEY wanted you to?

[Reaper Bob]

lolwut666 wrote...

Reaper Bob wrote...

When I look at a Krogan, I think dinosaurs exist in ME..

Hey, Bob. Did you guys wipe out the dinosaurs or not?

We only wipe out the races that taste good for our barbeque we have once every 50.000 years, so no.

[shnizzler93]

Not sure if serious...