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xDDDDDDDDDDDDD

I'll try that, then, at some point. I want a heal spell on him, Merrill doesn't have that, so what would I do exactly?

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You just need to edit the Ability List. The codes are all on this page:

http://dragonage.wik...mpanion_Talents

Heal is 306020... oh, and if you add full ability trees, keep in mind that if you have more than 12 total, there will be problems with the user interface. Or something... And if you add the full Creation tree, you need 306000 (tree) and 306001 (allows you to spend points in the tree). You can make some wild characters with even these basic tools... gotta love it.

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Great idea! And while you guys are at it, could you please make Ketojan go "Grrrrrrrrrrrr" every time you click on him out of combat? :-)

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Alright, I made what I suppose would be substantial progress.  Huge thanks to Icy Magebane for providing an explanation that made me take a second look at a method that wasn't working for me!!  I wasn't able to get access to the GDA files and had to return the PC version I got - wouldn't install on Bootcamp (yes I have a Mac please don't judge).  Still, some great success below!

On page 1, Icy details a method he used to get Charade or Flemeth onto the screen.  Use this same method, by copying a character from your save file's SAVEGAME_PARTYPOOLMEMBERS, and then pasting it, making all the necessary changes Icy outlines to OBJECT_ID, OBJECT_NAME, and of course Appearance.  However, make the templateresref "gen00fl_justice" instead of trying to match it to a specific creature's templateresref.

Doing this adds a character onto the select screen in front of and slightly to the right of Hawke.  If you do everything Icy outlined, the character will be independent of all the others, and essentially be a new character.  Inventory and leveling up both work, and the character will be able to use the typical party member moves and specializations, including the staff twirl (having a Ketojan do that was actually pretty cool).  I was thrilled he even had movement on the party picker.  Everything also worked alright with Charade as well by changing the name and appearance, and making her a Rogue.

So far, the character has no dialogue, and clicking on him/her while in the field just does nothing.  If you're looking to do this with a Saarebas though, at least for role-playing purposes you can convince yourself that since his lips are sewn shut, he's behaving perfectly normal. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

Now I know this isn't like adding the exact character permanently into the game.  Unfortunately, I don't think that will ever be fully possible without a real toolset to use.  Still, I hope it's at least something people will enjoy in that they do technically have a new party member.

Hopefully I can try and have a full tutorial written up tomorrow.

I am currently experimenting with other ways to try and add another party member, but right now it seems only possible to fenagle 1 additional party member.  Not that I'm about to give up trying!

Thanks everyone for the continued and assistance and support on here!

Here's a pic below.  I apologize for the horrible quality, but I am on Xbox and don't have a way to screegrab from it, so I had to take a picture.  Also, I don't know how to embed an image.  And yes, I do have Bethany and Carver on there, but Bethany was highlighted at the time of the photo.

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Oh my goodness, yay!!! Thank you, bluecuban, Icy Magebane. I might actually try this tonight, or I'll wait for your tutorial. ^_^

Heck, I'll try this tonight, with Ketojan. xD

EDIT: Guess what?! It works for me! :D Tomorrow, I'll work with his spells, but I now have a Ketojan. (Don't ask why my Hawke looks like a Qunari...it's the one that I'm using for my avatar. xDDD)

ROCK ARMOUR LOOKS AWESOME ON HIM.

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LOL yeah, he's big, but that doesn't matter.

Bethany: Grrrrrr, move, Ketojan.

*worships the ground you two stand on*

Modifié par Crimea River, 27 avril 2011 - 07:42 .


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If I want to add Orsino, how do I find the code for his model/morph?

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I'm pretty sure I followed the directions exactly, and I'm getting an error/freeze every time I try to save the edited game. :(

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madsabroo wrote...
If I want to add Orsino, how do I find the code for his model/morph?

I'm not sure where specifically to look for his model and face morph - I got them from a series of files someone posted a while back.  Here they are below though for you.
Model: 10003Face: em_orsino

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madsabroo wrote...

I'm pretty sure I followed the directions exactly, and I'm getting an error/freeze every time I try to save the edited game. :(


I encountered this same issue originally.  Are you using the latest version of the pyGFF Editor?  For some reason, using version 0.5.2 kept making it crash, but then I found version 0.5.5 and it all worked perfectly.

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bluecuban wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

I'm pretty sure I followed the directions exactly, and I'm getting an error/freeze every time I try to save the edited game. :(


I encountered this same issue originally.  Are you using the latest version of the pyGFF Editor?  For some reason, using version 0.5.2 kept making it crash, but then I found version 0.5.5 and it all worked perfectly.


Thanks for the help. :)  With the model number, do I use that for the APPEARANCE_TYPE where generic elf male would usually go?  I was hoping I could equip as I liked, and wanted to use the generic elf appearance.


I'll try updating to the newest version. I bet that's my problem.  Thanks for the quick response! B)

Edit: Updated and it's still crashing.  I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. :pinched:

Modifié par madsabroo, 27 avril 2011 - 04:09 .


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madsabroo wrote...

bluecuban wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

I'm pretty sure I followed the directions exactly, and I'm getting an error/freeze every time I try to save the edited game. :(


I encountered this same issue originally.  Are you using the latest version of the pyGFF Editor?  For some reason, using version 0.5.2 kept making it crash, but then I found version 0.5.5 and it all worked perfectly.


Thanks for the help. :)  With the model number, do I use that for the APPEARANCE_TYPE where generic elf male would usually go?  I was hoping I could equip as I liked, and wanted to use the generic elf appearance.


I'll try updating to the newest version. I bet that's my problem.  Thanks for the quick response! B)

Edit: Updated and it's still crashing.  I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. :pinched:


For the model, update the APPEARANCE_TYPE and the ORIGINAL_TYPE.

Also, I updated the front page with a complete tutorial.  Check it out and let me know at what part you're having an issue at.  Oh, and is it the pyGFF Editor that's crashing, or is the game crashing (and if so, at what part)?

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bluecuban wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

bluecuban wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

I'm pretty sure I followed the directions exactly, and I'm getting an error/freeze every time I try to save the edited game. :(


I encountered this same issue originally.  Are you using the latest version of the pyGFF Editor?  For some reason, using version 0.5.2 kept making it crash, but then I found version 0.5.5 and it all worked perfectly.


Thanks for the help. :)  With the model number, do I use that for the APPEARANCE_TYPE where generic elf male would usually go?  I was hoping I could equip as I liked, and wanted to use the generic elf appearance.


I'll try updating to the newest version. I bet that's my problem.  Thanks for the quick response! B)

Edit: Updated and it's still crashing.  I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. :pinched:


For the model, update the APPEARANCE_TYPE and the ORIGINAL_TYPE.

Also, I updated the front page with a complete tutorial.  Check it out and let me know at what part you're having an issue at.  Oh, and is it the pyGFF Editor that's crashing, or is the game crashing (and if so, at what part)?


Weird! I got the error message when I saved in pyGFF but when I loaded up the save in game it worked!  Thank you so much, now I get to run around town with my favorite NPC. ^_^

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Oh my goodness, yay!!! Thank you, bluecuban, Icy Magebane. I might actually try this tonight, or I'll wait for your tutorial. ^_^

Heck, I'll try this tonight, with Ketojan. xD

EDIT: Guess what?! It works for me! :D Tomorrow, I'll work with his spells, but I now have a Ketojan. (Don't ask why my Hawke looks like a Qunari...it's the one that I'm using for my avatar. xDDD)

ROCK ARMOUR LOOKS AWESOME ON HIM.

LOL yeah, he's big, but that doesn't matter.

Bethany: Grrrrrr, move, Ketojan.

*worships the ground you two stand on*


Awesome!  Glad you got him working!  Thanks for the pics too - it's nice have clearer images than mine showing it working properly ^_^

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madsabroo wrote...

bluecuban wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

bluecuban wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

I'm pretty sure I followed the directions exactly, and I'm getting an error/freeze every time I try to save the edited game. :(


I encountered this same issue originally.  Are you using the latest version of the pyGFF Editor?  For some reason, using version 0.5.2 kept making it crash, but then I found version 0.5.5 and it all worked perfectly.


Thanks for the help. :)  With the model number, do I use that for the APPEARANCE_TYPE where generic elf male would usually go?  I was hoping I could equip as I liked, and wanted to use the generic elf appearance.


I'll try updating to the newest version. I bet that's my problem.  Thanks for the quick response! B)

Edit: Updated and it's still crashing.  I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. :pinched:


For the model, update the APPEARANCE_TYPE and the ORIGINAL_TYPE.

Also, I updated the front page with a complete tutorial.  Check it out and let me know at what part you're having an issue at.  Oh, and is it the pyGFF Editor that's crashing, or is the game crashing (and if so, at what part)?


Weird! I got the error message when I saved in pyGFF but when I loaded up the save in game it worked!  Thank you so much, now I get to run around town with my favorite NPC. ^_^

For your trouble:

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Not sure how that ended up working, but either way, fantastic news that it did!!  The action shot with Orsino and Anders is especially cool.  Thanks!

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Thanks for working on this, bluecuban. While I'm still hoping a toolset patch will come in time, you've given us more DA2 modding possibilities. :)

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Would you mind if I make some screenshots for your tutorial, for the visually-minded people? :)

@jackkel: Both bluecuban and Icy Magebane did this, so don't forget to thank him too. x3

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Crimea River wrote...
@jackkel: Both bluecuban and Icy Magebane did this, so don't forget to thank him too. x3


Thanks to you for mentioning that, and thanks to Icy Magebane for their part!

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I'm not sure if this isn't already known, but I noticed something interesting when trying this but I'm not sure what I did special or if it's special at all.

What I did was (after following the tutorial and getting a new follower):
- set the follower's appearance to a PC appearance (15 for male, 16 for female)
- remove all copied equipment

This starts the character naked with the "basic" weapons for their class, but you can then outfit them with otherwise Hawke-only equipment. (Like I said, I'm not sure which does the trick.)

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I dunno how that happened...his class now says Warrior. oO;  How do I fix it?

EDIT: I think I know what I did. xD

Modifié par Crimea River, 27 avril 2011 - 09:31 .


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jackkel dragon wrote...

Crimea River wrote...
@jackkel: Both bluecuban and Icy Magebane did this, so don't forget to thank him too. x3


Thanks to you for mentioning that, and thanks to Icy Magebane for their part!

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I'm not sure if this isn't already known, but I noticed something interesting when trying this but I'm not sure what I did special or if it's special at all.

What I did was (after following the tutorial and getting a new follower):
- set the follower's appearance to a PC appearance (15 for male, 16 for female)
- remove all copied equipment

This starts the character naked with the "basic" weapons for their class, but you can then outfit them with otherwise Hawke-only equipment. (Like I said, I'm not sure which does the trick.)


Thanks!! :D

As for what you did, I remember reading about it in another thread a month ago people doing that to make it so party members could be turned into editable characters.  It was a neat trick that seemed useful.  Also lets people in a way make their own secondary character if they wanted to.  I didn't think to apply it to this lol.

It could give people the chance to make the sibling they always wanted :wizard:

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Crimea River wrote...

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I dunno how that happened...his class now says Warrior. oO;  How do I fix it?

EDIT: I think I know what I did. xD


I haven't had that happen to me yet.  You say you know what caused it though?

The one slightly surprising thing I noticed is that after you save over the edited save file, the game assigns a number to the OBJECT_NAME that becomes permanent instead of the string name when first making the character.

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bluecuban wrote...

Crimea River wrote...

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I dunno how that happened...his class now says Warrior. oO;  How do I fix it?

EDIT: I think I know what I did. xD


I haven't had that happen to me yet.  You say you know what caused it though?

The one slightly surprising thing I noticed is that after you save over the edited save file, the game assigns a number to the OBJECT_NAME that becomes permanent instead of the string name when first making the character.

It was me not adding in the base Mage ability when editing abilities.

As in it converts the name to code?

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Crimea River wrote...

bluecuban wrote...

Crimea River wrote...

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I dunno how that happened...his class now says Warrior. oO;  How do I fix it?

EDIT: I think I know what I did. xD


I haven't had that happen to me yet.  You say you know what caused it though?

The one slightly surprising thing I noticed is that after you save over the edited save file, the game assigns a number to the OBJECT_NAME that becomes permanent instead of the string name when first making the character.

It was me not adding in the base Mage ability when editing abilities.

As in it converts the name to code?


Ahhh ok, that explains it.  It also sometimes happens if you give them multiple classes.

As for what I meant, yes, when I go back into the save file after having saved over it, the string for his name is gone, and some brand new number is in the OBJECT_NAME field instead.  Not sure why or how it does that, but hey, it still works.

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bluecuban wrote...

jackkel dragon wrote...

Crimea River wrote...
@jackkel: Both bluecuban and Icy Magebane did this, so don't forget to thank him too. x3


Thanks to you for mentioning that, and thanks to Icy Magebane for their part!

---

I'm not sure if this isn't already known, but I noticed something interesting when trying this but I'm not sure what I did special or if it's special at all.

What I did was (after following the tutorial and getting a new follower):
- set the follower's appearance to a PC appearance (15 for male, 16 for female)
- remove all copied equipment

This starts the character naked with the "basic" weapons for their class, but you can then outfit them with otherwise Hawke-only equipment. (Like I said, I'm not sure which does the trick.)


Thanks!! :D

As for what you did, I remember reading about it in another thread a month ago people doing that to make it so party members could be turned into editable characters.  It was a neat trick that seemed useful.  Also lets people in a way make their own secondary character if they wanted to.  I didn't think to apply it to this lol.

It could give people the chance to make the sibling they always wanted :wizard:


With the Black Emporium and morph saving from savegames (PC only, unfortunately), players could make a legion of editable characters that are either mute or have someone else's voice. ;p

Side note: The Justice companion resource used in this tutorial seems to have Anders's soundset, if that wasn't already known. I was playing in a save before meeting Anders and suddenly got "I'll show you why mages are feared!"

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jackkel dragon wrote...

bluecuban wrote...

jackkel dragon wrote...

Crimea River wrote...
@jackkel: Both bluecuban and Icy Magebane did this, so don't forget to thank him too. x3


Thanks to you for mentioning that, and thanks to Icy Magebane for their part!

---

I'm not sure if this isn't already known, but I noticed something interesting when trying this but I'm not sure what I did special or if it's special at all.

What I did was (after following the tutorial and getting a new follower):
- set the follower's appearance to a PC appearance (15 for male, 16 for female)
- remove all copied equipment

This starts the character naked with the "basic" weapons for their class, but you can then outfit them with otherwise Hawke-only equipment. (Like I said, I'm not sure which does the trick.)


Thanks!! :D

As for what you did, I remember reading about it in another thread a month ago people doing that to make it so party members could be turned into editable characters.  It was a neat trick that seemed useful.  Also lets people in a way make their own secondary character if they wanted to.  I didn't think to apply it to this lol.

It could give people the chance to make the sibling they always wanted :wizard:


With the Black Emporium and morph saving from savegames (PC only, unfortunately), players could make a legion of editable characters that are either mute or have someone else's voice. ;p

Side note: The Justice companion resource used in this tutorial seems to have Anders's soundset, if that wasn't already known. I was playing in a save before meeting Anders and suddenly got "I'll show you why mages are feared!"


That would be awesome to have a legion.  Right now I can only any multiples to occupy the same space is the one issue, but I am trying to find a solution.

As for the sudden soundset, really?!  I'll admit though I've only played through Act 2 and 3, so I always had Anders in the party.  That would make sense though and explain why it's there in the game.  Thanks for finding that out though, I'll make a note of it in the tutorial!

There's also a gen00fl_dog that occupies the same space if attempted, but I haven't tested its animations.

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I think Justice may be used for Anders's special moments where he gets all glowy, but I haven't tested any of those scenes to find proof yet. Or maybe the Justice resource is an artifact of separate Anders/glowy Anders creatures for certain scenes, but was taken out.

If I see my special character when Justice is supposed to be around, I guess we'll have found out. ;p