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[JFarr74]

I'm playing as a Mage in Dragon Age 2 on Normal.  Right now, my Hawke is a Force Mage, and I also plan to make Hawke a Spirit Healer too.  How should I build my Anders, the Vegeance Path, or the Panacea Path?  I'm thinking of doing both, but how should I place the abilities in the his tactics menu? 

Modifié par JFarr74, 18 avril 2011 - 02:47 .

[Incantrix]

Well, in my opinion if you want Anders for a non healing position just put him in vengeance mode. Hes a beast that way!

Then again if you don't need him, you can always just use Merrill instead who imo is even more beastlier.

[Incantrix]

Well, in my opinion if you want Anders for a non healing position just put him in vengeance mode. Hes a beast that way!

Then again if you don't need him, you can always just use Merrill instead who imo is even more beastlier.

[Warheadz]

All you need to do is to heal and damage, and after that spam the cooldown reduction spell to get all spells ready again. It also refills some of your mana. Rinse and repeat.

And the build is: Magic and Willpower.

[JFarr74]

Warheadz wrote...

All you need to do is to heal and damage, and after that spam the cooldown reduction spell to get all spells ready again. It also refills some of your mana. Rinse and repeat.

And the build is: Magic and Willpower.

But should I choose Vegeance or Panacea?  If I do both, how can that work too?

[Warheadz]

You get both... You use Panacea for healing, and when all spells are on cooldown switch to Vengeance and then spam that skill.

[JFarr74]

Warheadz wrote...

You get both... You use Panacea for healing, and when all spells are on cooldown switch to Vengeance and then spam that skill.

How do I set that up on the tactics screen?

[Warheadz]

Don't think you can set that up on tactics menu.

[FreyaWazHere]

You'll have to set it to activate or deactivate his sustained abilities, you can't have both going at the same time. so if you can have it go to something like 'when 2 or more party members are below 25% health then activate panacea' or something

Or you'll have to switch to him in battle and do it manually.

[JFarr74]

FreyaWazHere wrote...

You'll have to set it to activate or deactivate his sustained abilities, you can't have both going at the same time. so if you can have it go to something like 'when 2 or more party members are below 25% health then activate panacea' or something

Or you'll have to switch to him in battle and do it manually.

Okay. That works, when would I activate Vegeance and deactivated Vengeance and Panacea?

[JFarr74]

My Mage will be a Spirit Healer. How should I map Anders' abilities? Also, with the health regeneration affect Merrill even though she has Blood of the First active if I have Healing Aura active, just curious?

[nekhbet]

I like to keep Anders in Vengeance mode and use my mage for healing, but Anders is the backup healer in case **** hits the fan. So, swap out of Vengeance to Panacea and do the healing/resurrection thing. As for the rest of the abilities... High damage is fun. Fireballs, freezing and shooting a bit of lightning at the fools.

Also, Martyr spamming. Might wanna give him Heal, as well, because he can heal others despite being in Vengeance mode. No such thing as excessive backup healing.

[JFarr74]

So should I have him activate Vegenace at any time, and then deactivate it when his health reaches below say, 25%. Then at 25% health, he'll activate Panacea until his health his high enough. But when should I actually deactivate Panacea?

[frustratemyself]

There's a very good thread here by Waltzingbear on building Anders as a healer. Well worth a read.

[JFarr74]

I think I'll do this-
Self: Health < 25% ► Activate: Panacea
Self: Health < 75% ► Aid Allies
Self: Health >= 75% ► Activate: Vengeance
Self: Health >= 75% ► Martyr

Is there any way to activate Panacea when Anders and another companion have low health?

Modifié par JFarr74, 20 avril 2011 - 12:05 .

[Apathy1989]

JFarr74 wrote...

I think I'll do this-
Self: Health < 25% ► Activate: Panacea
Self: Health < 75% ► Aid Allies
Self: Health >= 75% ► Activate: Vengeance
Self: Health >= 75% ► Martyr

Is there any way to activate Panacea when Anders and another companion have low health?

25% health your first priority should be healing yourself, not activating panacea.

You could do Self: Party Health: 2 teammebers below 50% = activate panacea

or do 2 lines, one for self health is low, second for ally health is low.

[JFarr74]

Apathy1989 wrote...

JFarr74 wrote...

I think I'll do this-
Self: Health < 25% ► Activate: Panacea
Self: Health < 75% ► Aid Allies
Self: Health >= 75% ► Activate: Vengeance
Self: Health >= 75% ► Martyr

Is there any way to activate Panacea when Anders and another companion have low health?

25% health your first priority should be healing yourself, not activating panacea.

You could do Self: Party Health: 2 teammebers below 50% = activate panacea

or do 2 lines, one for self health is low, second for ally health is low.

Okay, that works for Panacea.  But if I'm a Spirit Healer, does Anders still really need Panacea, or should I go with it anyway, because my mage is more of a damaging mage?

[frustratemyself]

I've just finished a play through with Anders as my healer and mage Hawke as nuker/controller. Worked out quite well. I got the panacea tree for him for aid allies & regroup and my mage only had basic heal as a back up with Varric on crowd control and Fenris to draw the agro. Worked out quite well.
I set panacea to activate if Anders health was < 50% (cause the poor love is pretty squishy) and deactivate again if his health if >= to 75%

Edit: Apparently Anders can work pretty well as a nuker too following the Vengeance line, you could then go full SH for your mage. Just remember that Anders takes 50% more damage in Vengeance mode than he normally would so keep an eye on him.

Modifié par frustratemyself, 20 avril 2011 - 02:31 .

[theangryllama]

Whichever way you plan on going with anders (nuking or healing) go into the vengeance path to get martyr. Set him up to swap into panacea if he needs to cast unity or aid allies and then have him swap back to vengeance and spam martyr.
If you have it as the last tactic it will basically mean if a) everything is on cooldown or he has no mana he will use martyr which will not only give him mana but cause everything to cooldown faster again.
I personally have him set up mostly as a nuker with the creation tree. Near permanent haste cause he's spamming martyr to keep bringing it off cooldown, heal whenever its needed with him mostly disabling vengeance at 50% healing himself and continuing to nuke, and if you have his friendship with vengeance/wrath he has +30% to all damage

[theangryllama]

By the end of my playthrough i just did as a full ranged party (merril, anders,varric, magehawke) anders looked like this
http://biowarefans.c...SrfPQz1Y0X1oRmk
With my party I could get away with only the basic heal as nothing really got close once with that much CC, he mostly only used it on himself when he dropped below 50% (which is when i had him deactivate vengeance)
Note if you take him into the fade in night terrors (act 2) he gets the vengeance ability for free

[JFarr74]

Mostly Anders will be used for support, but I want to give him some famage spells.