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Prothean 'Extinction' Speculation


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CeoBohga

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A bit of a warning, I've not played ME2 nor have I read Revelations, so I appologize for my ignorance if either of these sources prove me wrong.  That said, I reloaded ME1 the other day to get a few play throughs before I go ahead and buy ME2 and little clues (or red herrings) found throughout have made me come to a theory that I feel I have to throw out for you all since I've not found existing speculation along these lines (though it's entirely possible I've just GoogleFailed).

So my hypothisis is that the Protheans while technically extinct, are not exactly gone from galactic civilization, but have rather modified their genetic structure to the point that they are no longer recognizable as the original species.  In particular, I have strong suspicion that the Asari are the genetic legacy of the Protheans, who otherwise would have been unable to sustain viable genetic variation.  The following is my supporting evidence (cicumstantial as it may be).

First are known Protheans evidence and notes, followed by associated speculations.
  • The Protheans are known to experiment with genetic engineering – This is evidenced by the existence of the Hanar.  It could further be speculated that their observation of early humans is both further evidence in their interest in biology and genetics as well as additional support for Asari evidence #1 regarding Asari reproduction.
  • Only 14 of the brightest Prothean minds survived – I may be slightly off on the number, but 14 is what sticks in my head.  In any case, even assuming an even spread of male to female ratio and the “unique” nature of the DNA, 14 individuals would lack the genetic diversity to ensure long-term survival of the species, implying inevitable extinction.  This would seem to contradict my hypothesis, however, we’re talking about the 14 brightest Prothean minds.  It’s highly unlikely that after disrupting the keeper signal that they would simply roll over and accept both their death and their extinction.  It’s more likely that they would first would pursue a course off the station (such as salvaging derelict craft from whatever conflict must have happened at the citadel) and then pursue a course of action that would allow their species to survive as more than just a memory.
  • Only 14 Prothean’s survived – As redundant as this sounds, evidence 2 was regarding mental potential and drive, this however, is regarding the ability to rebuild civilization.  With only 14 Protheans, any attempt to rebuild civilization to what it was would end in failure due to lack of manpower.  As a result, if they did manage to find a way to continue their species, they would have found it necessary to return to a ‘primitive’ lifestyle of heavy agriculture over development.  Sure they may have had advanced tools for a while, but without the manufacturing capability they enjoyed as an interstellar civilization, those tools would be unlikely to remain in good repair past the first couple of generations, requiring them to reinvent their society.
  • 50,000 years have passed since the Prothean extinction – This is a substantial amount of time, no doubt.  As current human history will show, even over less than a percent of that time, history becomes muddled.  Even if the Protheans found a means to continue existing, it does not guarantee that any of their knowledge of the past would continue.  Even if we assume the Asari lifespan of 1,000 years, we’re looking at enough time for 250 generations to pass.  Relative to humans, 250 generations ago would be roughly 3000 BC.
And now for the known Asari evidence, followed with their speculation
  • The Asari reproduce through an advanced form of Parthenogenesis – This is key to my hypothesis.  Without the genetic diversity needed to sustain the species, the Protheans would have come to a single conclusion for a long term reproduction system that had low long term technological requirements.  The only solution (using known reproduction methods) would be through parthenogenesis, which allows mothers to have baby clones of themselves.  On earth, we see this in the whiptailed lizard (which is ‘all female’ like the Asari), which interestingly enough requires either hetero or homosexual stimulation to initiate the process (like the Asari).  It’s quite possible that to offset the limitations of parthenogenesis, the Protheans engineered the eggs and genetic structure to allow cross-species reproduction, which is encouraged in Asari culture.
  • The Asari are physiologically similar to each of the council races – While one might say that this is because of genetic assimilation, my understanding of the Mass Effect timeline does not allow enough time to have passed from first contact to the events of the game to allow that much change through assimilation.  More likely is that the Protheans already knew of those species in development and tailored their DNA to be specifically receptive of their DNA, which would have resulted in a hybrid which bore similarities between each of the species.
  • The Asari were the first to discover the Citadel - This may be in fact due to a Prothean legacy or coincidence, but this is an important event to note as the actual date of their discovery may be suspect if elder matrons decided that the “long game” solution to the plan would be to hide their true origin or if sometime after settling on Thessia, the Asasi descendants of the Protheans dismissed the citadel as make believe due to their clear lack of sufficient technology to return to the Citadel.
I’m sure there’s things I’m missing here, but as far as counter-evidence goes, I can only think of the visions and the statues of Ilos not looking Asari, but my rebuttal is hinted at above.  The Asari wouldn’t look like their Prothean ancestors because a forced evolutionary jump was required to survive.  They retained as much (or as few depending how you look at it) similarities to their ancestors as they do to the species they were designed to be able to cross-mate with.

To be clear, yes, the Protheans are extinct, however, they’re extinct in much the same way ****** erectus is extinct.  Though their species is dead, their genetic legacy lives on.  (And a final note, yes, I know I’m over thinking a pointless topic)

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Iamdude

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You should play ME2, nice hypothesis though, looks like you spent quite some time on it.

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CeoBohga

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I plan on it, but won't be for another month or two. Car repairs take priority over game purchases. Any chance ME2 explicitly confirms or denies any of the above points?

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I didn't read it all tbh, but their genetic heir lives on, this is absolutely true, you have no clue how right you are about that. And ME2 will surprise you...BIGTIME! At least it did so with me :)

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CeoBohga

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Cool, now even more eager to play it.

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IF YOU DON'T WANT A SPOILER DON'T READ THIS



Protheans are Collectors in me2.

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Scottaud wrote...

IF YOU DON'T WANT A SPOILER DON'T READ THIS



Protheans are Collectors in me2.


To be precise, Collectors are the protheans who got captured by the Reapers, extensively genetically modified to fit the needs of the Reapers. You can find more information about this in the Mass Effect wiki - this doesn't affect the theory of the OP at all.

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CeoBohga

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Hmm... doesn't exactly dismiss this possibility though, unless it specifies the scientists who disrupted the signal process were also captured. That just gives clues to why the reapers would want to harvest sentient life (and I'm hoping it's better thought out than Star Control 3).

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I read your theory and I'm aware that you mentioned that through time they forgot who they were, but also considering the magnificent minds of the 14 survivors, wouldn't one think that they would ensure that the knowledge about the Reapers, the Conduit, and all that stuff, would be transferred through time?
The alteration in the Keepers' signal had a purpose: to stop the Reapers, but they knew it wouldn't be enough, and therefore Vigil was left to survive with a purpose, which was to teach the new races a way to prevent Sovereign from manually using the Citadel-Mass Relay and then we have that disc that Shepard got in Ilos.

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Again, we're talking about 50,000 years time. There are beacons, data discs, vigil... all sorts of records left behind, most of which is decayed or damaged over the passage. Knowledge and artifacts over the course of generations are prone to becoming lost, stolen, being dismissed as myths and disinformation through creative works and erroneous lectures. The Protheans couldn't even maintain accurate or complete records of their plan on the citadel, which despite Keeper kleptomania, they should have been able to figure out a means of actually passing their message along where they were sure people would eventually arrive if they didn't plan to be there to do it themselves.

Again though, it's quite likely I'm wrong and just chasing red herrings, but... this is probably something I'll be actually looking out for when going through ME2 once I get it.