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[Cutlass Jack]

She'll talk about it if you bring it up.

The Maker decided it wasn't her time yet. Take it up with him if you have an issue. Personally I'll just accept it as proof that maybe she wasn't as crazy as we thought.

[TJPags]

The Maker = Bioware . . . .

[Fieryeel]

Rifneno wrote...

MJRick wrote...

It's not like she is next to an urn full of magic healing ashes or anything...

You mean the one whose power has been desecrated and stolen by a high dragon?  That one?

And what effects do you know pouring the dragon's blood would have on Andraste's ashes?

It might not have lessened the healing properties any less.

There could still be a bit of untainted ash inside.

Or for all we know, it could have made the healing even more potent!

Also to note that I decapitated Zevran in our first meeting, in the very next scene, he was somehow still alive.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Ah, I've got it figured out. Remember when you were going through the gauntlet and asking all those questions? She was replaced by a doppelganger who accompanied you into the room with the ashes. You never killed Leiliana. You killed her double. Leiliana instead was called away to Orlais on business. She needed new shoes, and got tired of that Ferelden crap you were making her wear. So off to the Chantry. But that's only if you killed her. If you didn't, she stayed with you.

But if you did really behead her in DAO, they should have at least had some safety pins around on her neck holding her head on. (see if anyone remembers the original Highlander movie).

[sphinxess]

Take it from a old D&D player - she is the character the dungeon master <Bioware> has fallen in love with - she now has superawesumeness and everything written will now revolve around her not your character.

[jbblue05]

So you can kill Oghern in Origins and he's in Awakenings.
Anders dies in Awakening and he's alive in DA2
Zevran dies in Origins and shows up o DA2
Morrigan will probably survie the stab in the gut
Leliana dies in Origins and is alive in DA2
Flemeth can be slain in Origins and is alive in DA2

Next thing you know if you leave Sten in Lothering he breaks out the cage and ecapes before the darkspawn show up.

Wynne could come bak to like with the spirit inside her. Is their any squadmate that stays dead? What's up with all these zombies?

Modifié par jbblue05, 19 avril 2011 - 03:43 .

[TEWR]

OperatingWookie wrote...

I beheaded her in one of my saves by the Urn.
 
How did she get better?

As such, I conclude that, Lelianna is not human.

But what?

she's a shaved Wookie.


EDIT: Whoa I just realized the person I quoted is a Wookie....

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 19 avril 2011 - 04:00 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

jbblue05 wrote...

What's up with all these zombies?

It's the Zombie Apocalypse.

[TEWR]

OperatingWookie wrote...

MJRick wrote...

It's not like she is next to an urn full of magic healing ashes or anything...

The urn was tainted and her heads off! How do you heal that?

"Tis' but a scratch"

desecrating the urn doesn't necessarily mean it's rendered useless. You were acting on the information of an insane, blood-drinking Reaver who isn't a mage and professes to know all things magical regarding the Urn.

I could stick the Bible in my ass, thereby desecrating it. It doesn't make it any less holy.

It does, however, make it very smelly.

And please tell me you're not seriously arguing that decapitation, a fancy game mechanic, should be considered canon....

Also, kudos on the Monty Python reference.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 19 avril 2011 - 04:52 .

[Beerfish]

She's a Wereparisian

[ashez2ashes]

In my game, she's a crazy lier who claims she knew the warden when they never even met...

[tmp7704]

jbblue05 wrote...

Next thing you know if you leave Sten in Lothering he breaks out the cage and ecapes before the darkspawn show up.

Well, there's been lot of people in Lothering. Someone else could've taken pity on him too, it's not like the Warden has the monopoly on it.

[Merced652]

walking retcon.

[Boiny Bunny]

Persephone wrote...

Rheia wrote...

I wouldn't take 'beheading' at face value, since it's a reflection of game mechanic. A random finishing move. Did the warden kill her? Perhaps, but the head didn't have to come off.

If she 'died', she died in a strange place full of supernatural powers.

Oghren (if he's with you) comments how it smacks of lyrium.
You encounter numerous ghosts there, which could indicate the Veil at the temple is very, very thin.
Or even that perhaps those ghosts are fade spirits.

If I had to vager a guess, I'd say something from the fade was looking after her.

This. And it does seem as if dear Leli is finally getting her due as a fully fleshed out, fascinating character. (She was shamefully neglected in DAO. Just compare her to Morri) I like this touch of mysticism. It surely is fascinating and I hope that future installments will explain it further.

Hmm?  Fully fleshed out, fascinating character?? 

You got that from the 6 lines of dialogue she had in the entire game?  I mean, what does she say?  

She travelled with the Warden, maybe loved him/her or not, and Elthina should leave Kirkwall.  Then at the end, nothing.

[Persephone]

Boiny Bunny wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Rheia wrote...

I wouldn't take 'beheading' at face value, since it's a reflection of game mechanic. A random finishing move. Did the warden kill her? Perhaps, but the head didn't have to come off.

If she 'died', she died in a strange place full of supernatural powers.

Oghren (if he's with you) comments how it smacks of lyrium.
You encounter numerous ghosts there, which could indicate the Veil at the temple is very, very thin.
Or even that perhaps those ghosts are fade spirits.

If I had to vager a guess, I'd say something from the fade was looking after her.

This. And it does seem as if dear Leli is finally getting her due as a fully fleshed out, fascinating character. (She was shamefully neglected in DAO. Just compare her to Morri) I like this touch of mysticism. It surely is fascinating and I hope that future installments will explain it further.

Hmm?  Fully fleshed out, fascinating character?? 

You got that from the 6 lines of dialogue she had in the entire game?  I mean, what does she say?  

She travelled with the Warden, maybe loved him/her or not, and Elthina should leave Kirkwall.  Then at the end, nothing.

No. The whole connection with the Divine. Her re-appearance and connections with the Seekers. (In Seeker armor) She is clearly important. And David Gaider confirmed that her tale is far from over. Sometimes it pays off to pay a little more attention on things that aren't just DAO related.

[Boiny Bunny]

Well yes, it is interesting that she is now connected with the Divine and the Seekers - but she certainly didn't need either of those things to already be a fully fleshed out character. Lelianna certainly wasn't neglected in DA:O. She got her own entire DLC to explain a bit of her backstory.

It does make me wonder what they have in stock for her in the future though.

[snfonseka]

OperatingWookie wrote...

I beheaded her in one of my saves by the Urn.
 
How did she get better?

As such, I conclude that, Lelianna is not human.

But what?

She is a zombie...... A good looking zombie who can talk.

Anyway this is another point to show that BW didn't care much about the story in DA2.

Modifié par snfonseka, 19 avril 2011 - 04:48 .

[Fieryeel]

jbblue05 wrote...

So you can kill Oghern in Origins and he's in Awakenings.
Anders dies in Awakening and he's alive in DA2
Zevran dies in Origins and shows up o DA2
Morrigan will probably survie the stab in the gut
Leliana dies in Origins and is alive in DA2
Flemeth can be slain in Origins and is alive in DA2

Next thing you know if you leave Sten in Lothering he breaks out the cage and ecapes before the darkspawn show up.

Wynne could come bak to like with the spirit inside her. Is their any squadmate that stays dead? What's up with all these zombies?

I was not aware of Oghren's return. Was there an explanation for why that happens?
Anders death was explained. He planted the mage corpse in Amarantine and escaped.
Zevran does NOT return in DA2. It's a bug if he shows up.
Morrigan will indeed survive the stab, that much is a given.
Leliana's story is not over. David Gaider said her revival will be explained.
You did resurrect Flemeth yourself, so I don't see why her return is an issue. Morrigan too claimed in DAO we didn't see the last of Flemeth yet.

[Ramus Quaritch]

Leliana is human. Either the importer is completely broke or the writers just decided that they didn't care. Judging by some of David Gaider's responses, I'd say the writers just decided to have Leliana survive regardless.

[jbblue05]

Fieryeel wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

So you can kill Oghern in Origins and he's in Awakenings.
Anders dies in Awakening and he's alive in DA2
Zevran dies in Origins and shows up o DA2
Morrigan will probably survie the stab in the gut
Leliana dies in Origins and is alive in DA2
Flemeth can be slain in Origins and is alive in DA2

Next thing you know if you leave Sten in Lothering he breaks out the cage and ecapes before the darkspawn show up.

Wynne could come bak to like with the spirit inside her. Is their any squadmate that stays dead? What's up with all these zombies?

I was not aware of Oghren's return. Was there an explanation for why that happens?
Anders death was explained. He planted the mage corpse in Amarantine and escaped.
Zevran does NOT return in DA2. It's a bug if he shows up.
Morrigan will indeed survive the stab, that much is a given.
Leliana's story is not over. David Gaider said her revival will be explained.
You did resurrect Flemeth yourself, so I don't see why her return is an issue. Morrigan too claimed in DAO we didn't see the last of Flemeth yet.

I don't have a problem with it, its just really odd and funny  how often "dead characters" showing ip in later games

I forgot to mention the Architect "survies" in DA2
Its most likely a bug but its still hilarious

yes you can kill Ogherm.   I Awakenings you can ask him "Wjy isn't he dead"?
and Oghern will say he woke up sometime later

Modifié par jbblue05, 19 avril 2011 - 05:23 .

[Persephone]

jbblue05 wrote...

Fieryeel wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

So you can kill Oghern in Origins and he's in Awakenings.
Anders dies in Awakening and he's alive in DA2
Zevran dies in Origins and shows up o DA2
Morrigan will probably survie the stab in the gut
Leliana dies in Origins and is alive in DA2
Flemeth can be slain in Origins and is alive in DA2

Next thing you know if you leave Sten in Lothering he breaks out the cage and ecapes before the darkspawn show up.

Wynne could come bak to like with the spirit inside her. Is their any squadmate that stays dead? What's up with all these zombies?

I was not aware of Oghren's return. Was there an explanation for why that happens?
Anders death was explained. He planted the mage corpse in Amarantine and escaped.
Zevran does NOT return in DA2. It's a bug if he shows up.
Morrigan will indeed survive the stab, that much is a given.
Leliana's story is not over. David Gaider said her revival will be explained.
You did resurrect Flemeth yourself, so I don't see why her return is an issue. Morrigan too claimed in DAO we didn't see the last of Flemeth yet.

I don't have a problem with it, its just really odd and funny  how often "dead characters" showing ip in later games

I forgot to mention the Architect "survies" in DA2
Its most likely a bug but its still hilarious

Bug. Fixed in Patch 1.02

Same kinda bug that makes Alistair think he is king if he is not.

[jbblue05]

Persephone wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Fieryeel wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

So you can kill Oghern in Origins and he's in Awakenings.
Anders dies in Awakening and he's alive in DA2
Zevran dies in Origins and shows up o DA2
Morrigan will probably survie the stab in the gut
Leliana dies in Origins and is alive in DA2
Flemeth can be slain in Origins and is alive in DA2

Next thing you know if you leave Sten in Lothering he breaks out the cage and ecapes before the darkspawn show up.

Wynne could come bak to like with the spirit inside her. Is their any squadmate that stays dead? What's up with all these zombies?

I was not aware of Oghren's return. Was there an explanation for why that happens?
Anders death was explained. He planted the mage corpse in Amarantine and escaped.
Zevran does NOT return in DA2. It's a bug if he shows up.
Morrigan will indeed survive the stab, that much is a given.
Leliana's story is not over. David Gaider said her revival will be explained.
You did resurrect Flemeth yourself, so I don't see why her return is an issue. Morrigan too claimed in DAO we didn't see the last of Flemeth yet.

I don't have a problem with it, its just really odd and funny  how often "dead characters" showing ip in later games

I forgot to mention the Architect "survies" in DA2
Its most likely a bug but its still hilarious

Bug. Fixed in Patch 1.02

Same kinda bug that makes Alistair think he is king if he is not.

I still get the Alistair is king glitch.  The only way I can avoid is by sparing Loghain and marrying Anora..

I was so pissed in Awakenings when my King COusland was bowing down to King Alistair

[Persephone]

jbblue05 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Fieryeel wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

So you can kill Oghern in Origins and he's in Awakenings.
Anders dies in Awakening and he's alive in DA2
Zevran dies in Origins and shows up o DA2
Morrigan will probably survie the stab in the gut
Leliana dies in Origins and is alive in DA2
Flemeth can be slain in Origins and is alive in DA2

Next thing you know if you leave Sten in Lothering he breaks out the cage and ecapes before the darkspawn show up.

Wynne could come bak to like with the spirit inside her. Is their any squadmate that stays dead? What's up with all these zombies?

I was not aware of Oghren's return. Was there an explanation for why that happens?
Anders death was explained. He planted the mage corpse in Amarantine and escaped.
Zevran does NOT return in DA2. It's a bug if he shows up.
Morrigan will indeed survive the stab, that much is a given.
Leliana's story is not over. David Gaider said her revival will be explained.
You did resurrect Flemeth yourself, so I don't see why her return is an issue. Morrigan too claimed in DAO we didn't see the last of Flemeth yet.

I don't have a problem with it, its just really odd and funny  how often "dead characters" showing ip in later games

I forgot to mention the Architect "survies" in DA2
Its most likely a bug but its still hilarious

Bug. Fixed in Patch 1.02

Same kinda bug that makes Alistair think he is king if he is not.

I still get the Alistair is king glitch.  The only way I can avoid is by sparing Loghain and marrying Anora..

I was so pissed in Awakenings when my King COusland was bowing down to King Alistair

The King Alistair bug has never been fixed, sadly.

[BloodyMays]

TIS BUT A FLESH WOUND.

[captain.subtle]

Persephone wrote...

Rheia wrote...

I wouldn't take 'beheading' at face value, since it's a reflection of game mechanic. A random finishing move. Did the warden kill her? Perhaps, but the head didn't have to come off.

If she 'died', she died in a strange place full of supernatural powers.

Oghren (if he's with you) comments how it smacks of lyrium.
You encounter numerous ghosts there, which could indicate the Veil at the temple is very, very thin.
Or even that perhaps those ghosts are fade spirits.

If I had to vager a guess, I'd say something from the fade was looking after her.

This. And it does seem as if dear Leli is finally getting her due as a fully fleshed out, fascinating character. (She was shamefully neglected in DAO. Just compare her to Morri) I like this touch of mysticism. It surely is fascinating and I hope that future installments will explain it further.

Here's your answer OP. Leliana is a major favorite among the fanbase (read fanbios). Bioware knows that they can cash out a few bucks out the nose of these people by offerring a DLC or two. Hence the miraculous return. It is no more, no less than a retcon they won't admit because they are all currently in a haughty, indignant mood.