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[neppakyo]

So, where did you exactly get "OMFGITSUCKSLOLOLOL" from "advise against"

[Aaleel]

If a person walks up to the counter with the game in their hand and says I want to buy this, the salesperson shouldn't tell them not to get it.

But if the person asks the salesperson how is this game, all bets are off. The salesperson should answer the question honestly.

I was pre-ordering the Witcher 2, and this happened. A kid asked how was DA2, and the guy at the counter said, "you should just pre-order the Witcher 2 like this person".

[Rovay]

Funny thing. Where I come from, it is still sold at the release price. Take that as you will.

[Rockpopple]

Ugh. Nevermind. Don't want to bring this anymore off-topic.

Still full price where I live. Also, sales are good around here too. Take that as you will.

Modifié par Rockpopple, 20 avril 2011 - 05:45 .

[Omgadnowai]

I haven't played many DA-like RPGs in my lifetime, so I have absolutely NOTHING to compare it to. Honestly ? It's been an unique and awesome experience so far, so much that I'm definitely considering getting DA:O and Awakening.

The game isn't that bad if you have nothing as big and great as DA:O to compare it to. However, I'll admit it can be a letdown if you've experienced better; that works in any area of your life, I suppose. And it's still immensely subjective.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Aaleel wrote...

If a person walks up to the counter with the game in their hand and says I want to buy this, the salesperson shouldn't tell them not to get it.

But if the person asks the salesperson how is this game, all bets are off. The salesperson should answer the question honestly.

I was pre-ordering the Witcher 2, and this happened. A kid asked how was DA2, and the guy at the counter said, "you should just pre-order the Witcher 2 like this person".

Heh. It's not even out yet. You can't judge a game when it's not even out.

OT:

Well it's the PC version. Over in the UK, a PC game can be brought for £25 on release date. Still, normally it takes some months for a PC game to get that low in price. Personally I've got 90 hours from the game and will sell it like I did with Origins and pick up the ultimate edition they release for cheap. If there is no ultimate edition with DA2 like there was with Origins, fair enough, I won't pick it up again. I've pretty much drained all the content from it anyway. For all its flaws, it does have content, I've played worse games. It's decent and I gave The Witcher 5/10 and never played it again, so that means Dragon Age 2 must be a 7 in my book considering I've played through it three times.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 20 avril 2011 - 05:50 .

[erynnar]

Statulos wrote...

And I dumped 60 bucks for a steam pre-order and a I got a ME2 I already have. I just feel stupid.

Aw! *HUGS* Well at least you're not alone?

[Aaleel]

But on topic, it's 29.99 - 49.99 at stores around where I live. I don't think it's still full price anywhere.

[Romantiq]

Yeah, if customer is already walking to the counter with dragon age 2 - I wouldnt stop him or tell him its bad. He made his decision. But if a customer asks my opinion about the product then I will tell him how I really feel about it. I had some bestbuy customers call my friend an addict because he used to buy gamecards for WoW instead of paying online like I did.

[ManiacalEvil]

 That's a great price for a great game. THanks for the price drop BioWare, will certainly be reccomending this masterpiece to my friends who still haven't got it because they don't pay full price for a game ever.

[Statulos]

Omgadnowai wrote...

I haven't played many DA-like RPGs in my lifetime, so I have absolutely NOTHING to compare it to. Honestly ? It's been an unique and awesome experience so far, so much that I'm definitely considering getting DA:O and Awakening.

The game isn't that bad if you have nothing as big and great as DA:O to compare it to. However, I'll admit it can be a letdown if you've experienced better; that works in any area of your life, I suppose. And it's still immensely subjective.

If you have the time, try Baldur's Gate series, The Witcher or the first two Fallouts. They're cheap as of now.

erynnar wrote...

Statulos wrote...

And I
dumped 60 bucks for a steam pre-order and a I got a ME2 I already have. I
just feel stupid.

Aw! *HUGS* Well at least you're not
alone?../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png

Our name is Legion, for we are many.

Modifié par Statulos, 20 avril 2011 - 05:55 .

[T764]

The only local shops i can get videogames in are Tesco and Argos, it was £39.99 yesterday in Tesco and i'm not sure if Argos have it.

[Everwarden]

Rockpopple wrote...

Not that it matters, because honesty isn't in the job description.

Well I won't pretend to know what the Gamestop corporate line is, but the few times I have shopped there (I typically don't, the prices aren't very good) the advice I've gotten has been honest and the associates seemed to be actual, honest-to-god gamers just telling me the truth, not trying to sell me a turd. These few experiences made me want to shop there, honestly.

Like someone else said, a saleman shouldn't stop someone who's buying a copy and say "..yeah, this game sucks, bro.", but if someone -asks- then the best policy is telling the truth. 

[Ploppy]

Gamestop employees actually spend a good chunk of their work time advising people on games. That's why Bioware tried to get that whole "Gamestop exclusive early demo!" thing going...

[erynnar]

Statulos wrote...

Omgadnowai wrote...

I haven't played many DA-like RPGs in my lifetime, so I have absolutely NOTHING to compare it to. Honestly ? It's been an unique and awesome experience so far, so much that I'm definitely considering getting DA:O and Awakening.

The game isn't that bad if you have nothing as big and great as DA:O to compare it to. However, I'll admit it can be a letdown if you've experienced better; that works in any area of your life, I suppose. And it's still immensely subjective.

If you have the time, try Baldur's Gate series, The Witcher or the first two Fallouts. They're cheap as of now.

erynnar wrote...

Statulos wrote...

And I
dumped 60 bucks for a steam pre-order and a I got a ME2 I already have. I
just feel stupid.

Aw! *HUGS* Well at least you're not
alone?../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png

Our name is Legion, for we are many.

*giggle* Glad to see you survived the storms where you were at!

*pats Rockpopple* I know sweetie there is the kneejerk hyperbole a lot. 

As for me? Well, I have to be honest, haven't been to one of the stores to see the price.  So, I have no idea what the price is where I am.

[_Aine_]

Still full price where I live. $59.99 AND on the best seller list. (Pre-played is only reduced to $54.99) Whether that is marketing product-placement or a true indication of sales...no idea.

[Omgadnowai]

How do you sell Dragon Age 2 preplayed when the registration won't go through ?

[Travie]

Rockpopple wrote...

No it's not! Let's cut the crap, okay? Please? They're job isn't to advise people at all. Their job is to sell games. Yes they can advise people and they often do, but if it's a game that's just on the fence or has a mixed reception, they're gonna try to sell that game if asked. Yeah, I know, it's ugly, it's dirty, it means pushing bad games on good people, but that's what they're paid for. They're not consultants, they're salesmen. I've worked in sales, I know what the mandate is: sell, sell, and for God's sake, sell. And of course they can do this without endorsing every title - bounds of reason.

*pant*

Moving on. Even if they were consultants, saying that DA II isn't worth a purchase isn't honest. Saying, "Well it's gotten mixed reviews" and "It's different from DA:O, but it's gotten on average decent scores" "It's not for me," etc, that's honest. Saying "It sucks don't buy it!" isn't honest.

Not that it matters, because honesty isn't in the job description.

I'm sorry, but you are completely wrong. I worked at gamestop when I was in highschool and if you tried to get an employee fired for advising customers on what games are worth buying the manager would laugh in your face.

Go ahead, try it.

[suprhomre]

Maybe, this is the message EA understand. That DA2 needed more time.

[jnrhrt]

Omgadnowai wrote...

neppakyo wrote...

jnrhrt wrote...

Gamestop still has the price at 59.99USD (release price). I've seen a few retailers in the US drop it to 49 or 39, but they're few and far between.

It's not like Dante's Inferno (another EA title) that reached 19.99USD in a matter of months. It'll drop slowly.

heh, the people at my local gamestop advises people not to buy DA2.

They're retarded. I'd fire those minimum-wage idiots if I heard about such a thing going on in an honest business I'm trying to run. It's not as if they can't find reviews online before getting in store to buy the product.

You can hint the game isn't like DA:O, you can point out the flaws and the differences, but to outright tell the customer "Don't buy it, it sucks balls lololololol" ? Come on.

A friend of mine manages a Gamestop, and he encourages his staff to advise people against buying poor games if they're on the fence about it. They sold as many copies of DA2 as they could before the reviews came out, and when he realized how poor they were and how many costumers wanted refunds, he started trying to push them out the door as cheaply as possibly.

Building trust is a great way to get repeat costumers. Most good salespeople know that.

[Brenus]

Rockpopple wrote...

Off-topic - If I saw any salesperson suggest to any person they not buy DA2, I'd talk to their manager and get them fired.

For 1) Their job is to sell games. To deliberately tell people not to buy a fine product, no matter what they might personally think about it, is not only ludicrous - it's the polar opposite of what they were hired to do.

For 2) The game may be disappointing to some, sure, but if people - especially people who haven't played Origins - want to buy a good RPG with lots of re-playability, they would want to recommend DA II, not warn people not to buy.

How frickin' annoying is that. I doubt that's true anyway. Honestly, all it takes is for one customer to go up to a Manager and say, "Hey, your salesperson told me not to buy this game because it's bad, is that true?" and that salesperson would be fired so fast their head would spin.

*Wow I was properly Ninja'd by Ohmygadnowai, but he's right on this too. 

On topic - It's still full price at all the stores where I live. *shrug* 10 bucks or euros or whatever is a good deal for consumers, but doesn't bode well for the product.

OMG wow, sack people for giving honest advice to their customers, seriously?

Back when I worked in a supermarket, a customer came up to me with a bag of budget brand potatoes and asked me if they were good quality. I replied that there was nothing wrong with the budget brand food and it would have a perfectly acceptable quality level, but if he was specifically looking for good quality potatoes then he should consider trying our more expensive special range ones.

If you personally loved the budget brand potatos and saw me giving that advice, would you go whining to the managers to get me fired? The chances are that you would get laughed out of the store because trying to upsell a better product to the customer instead is a favorable tactic should they buy that product, like it, and buy more expensive potatoes in the future instead of cheap ones.

Modifié par Brenus, 20 avril 2011 - 06:34 .

[MistySun]

I buy all my games preordered from play.com. And even then they are cheaper than elsewhere. DA2 preorederd cost me £24:99 with all bonuses.

[Rockpopple]

So now we're comparing video games to potatoes and having managers laugh in customer faces. Oh the wonderful world you people must live in! The things you must see!

Better bring it back on topic before this thread completely jumps the shark.

[Miashi]

Well they sure didn't lower the game's price on amazon.ca. Then again, in Canada we get ****ed up in the ass when it comes down to the price of what we pay things for.

Modifié par Miashi, 20 avril 2011 - 06:36 .