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[hc00]

Who chose Udina, and why?

I mean, he is a cowardly incompetent politician, at least all of what I have seen of him points to that at least.

He is power hungry and doesn't seem to give a toss about humanity as long as it furthers his career.

And he is a prideful, resentful, haughty back stabbing coward.


As you can see I am not fond of his character .  But you have the choice to choose him as the Human councilor, I was wondering who chose him, and if so why?  As I cannot think of a single reason to choose him.

Modifié par hc00, 20 avril 2011 - 11:26 .

[HealthyGiraffe]

I've never chosen Udina, but my understand is that he actually makes a better councilor than Anderson (who is uncomfortable as one). Let politicians be politicians. Udina is a good politician, despite being a *****.

[Brannon]

I agree. Renegade or Paragon, or even a mix of both, it's really not in character for someone like Shepard to choose that ass. Unless you're playing Shepard as someone who hates society and wants to keep its broken mechanisms intact.

[naledgeborn]

I did. He's a good foil for Shepard. I love hating him. Anderson should stay in the Alliance. And he gives better speeches and cracks me up.

Also this.

skip to 5:20

[H4nniba11]

I chose him with my secondart idiot paragon shep just to see what the hell I just caused.

[Merchant2006]

Udina, while being a complete moron, knows what he's doing. He knows the ways in which to make humanity go further in the galaxy and knows the 'tricks of the trade' when it comes to being a politician. Anderson was a nice choice but he most likely hated every part of the job, he's the 'man of action'. Come to think of it, I don't see the danger in having Udina as councillor, sure he may be arrogant and dislike things you do (not always, he was glad you became a spectre etc) but yeah.

Anderson should always stick to his position, I mean he becomes an Admiral. Prrrrrromotion!

[Sandbox47]

Udina is about as incompetent at politics as superman is at stopping bullets. He has a good sense of who's buttons to push. That shows very obviously after you've returned to the Citadel after Virmire. Aside from that, Anderson didn't want to be a politician.

[Skarwael]

Even after the lockdown after virmire you'd choose him?

I never did on any of my characters. As I said to him every playthrough "Nobody stabs me in back, Udina! Nobody!"

[Virginian]

The only thing I would choose Udina for is a firing squad.

[Irrepressible]

Personally I find the only reason NOT to choose Udina is the fact that with him as councillor you cannot get your Spectre status back in ME2, else he would of been chosen on the majority of my playthroughs.

[kumquats]

Irrepressible wrote...

Personally I find the only reason NOT to choose Udina is the fact that with him as councillor you cannot get your Spectre status back in ME2, else he would of been chosen on the majority of my playthroughs.

That's not true. You can choose Udina and get your Spectre status back.

I did choose Udina because of his angry speech in the Renegade saving the Council ending ^^
www.youtube.com/watch

And of course because I want Anderson back on the Normandy for ME3!
Udina can deal with the usless Council and show that Turian some epic airquotes

[Brannon]

I think man like Anderson was needed. You could tell the council couldn't stand Udina (Who could? ) Plus, man of action he is, he was already semi-retired at the time and he was getting up in years.

[spychi]

I didn't choose Udina, because he is an ****, plus I have this weird feeling that he will join Cerberus because Ilussive Man will offer him a higher place in his ranks or something like that.

[Brannon]

I do think Udina is a good character though. He served his purpose well. "Annoying and pompous politician for Ashely to mock."

[Irrepressible]

kumquats wrote...

Irrepressible wrote...

Personally I find the only reason NOT to choose Udina is the fact that with him as councillor you cannot get your Spectre status back in ME2, else he would of been chosen on the majority of my playthroughs.

That's not true. You can choose Udina and get your Spectre status back.

Oh dear, how is it that i've replayed ME2 numerous times yet did not know that. I guess I must of just always killed the council when I appointed Udina in order for me to miss that. 

[amcnow]

Irrepressible wrote...

Oh dear, how is it that i've replayed ME2 numerous times yet did not know that. I guess I must of just always killed the council when I appointed Udina in order for me to miss that. 

Exactly.  You have to save the original council in order to regain your SPECTRE status, regardless of who you choose to join them.

[Manic Sheep]

amcnow wrote...

Irrepressible wrote...

Oh dear, how is it that i've replayed ME2 numerous times yet did not know that. I guess I must of just always killed the council when I appointed Udina in order for me to miss that.

Exactly. You have to save the original council in order to regain your SPECTRE status, regardless of who you choose to join them.

Anderson gives you our spectre status back even if the old council is dead.

[caradoc2000]

I always choose Udina. He is far more capable in politics than Anderson.

[Dean_the_Young]

I've never understood where everyone gets the idea that Udina is incompetent from: it certainly isn't reflected by the views of anyone who talks about him. The primary in-game criticism is that he's too good at being a politician, not that he's horrible at it. Nor do I get where anyone gathers that he's personally selfish or corrupt at the expense of the Alliance.

Udina is obviously an unsympathetic character. He also has the audacity to not support Shepard blindly without proof, and to stop Shepard from shooting himself (and the Alliance) in the foot when Shepard wants to go off while the Council thinks he's crazy.

[omgmahbrain]

I mean, he is a cowardly incompetent politician, at least all of what I have seen of him points to that at least.

Would you mind providing some proof that Udina is an incompetent politician?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

I've never understood where everyone gets the idea that Udina is incompetent from: it certainly isn't reflected by the views of anyone who talks about him. The primary in-game criticism is that he's too good at being a politician, not that he's horrible at it. Nor do I get where anyone gathers that he's personally selfish or corrupt at the expense of the Alliance.

Udina is obviously an unsympathetic character. He also has the audacity to not support Shepard blindly without proof, and to stop Shepard from shooting himself (and the Alliance) in the foot when Shepard wants to go off while the Council thinks he's crazy.

Yea, I don't get where they get this from either.

I chose him and was msotly satisfied. Mostly. At the end of ME1, Udina had the right idea of using the fear of the Reapers to install human galactic leadership. Then he does the complete opposite in ME2 and says Reapers don't exist. Even if he doesn't believe in their existence, he should have used them as a political tool.

Also, in ME2 apparently he is too confrontanional and not that diplomatic. Sometimes, being steadfast is a virtue, but he should ease off a little.

[Barquiel]

omgmahbrain wrote...

I mean, he is a cowardly incompetent politician, at least all of what I have seen of him points to that at least.

Would you mind providing some proof that Udina is an incompetent politician?

"I'm sick of this council and its anti-human BS" isn't very diplomatic. He's described as a "diplomatic incident waiting to happen" by the Turian Hierarchy as well.

[amcnow]

Manic Sheep wrote...

amcnow wrote...

Irrepressible wrote...

Oh dear, how is it that i've replayed ME2 numerous times yet did not know that. I guess I must of just always killed the council when I appointed Udina in order for me to miss that.

Exactly. You have to save the original council in order to regain your SPECTRE status, regardless of who you choose to join them.

Anderson gives you our spectre status back even if the old council is dead.

My bad.  I totally forgot about that since I always save the council.  EPIC FAIL on my part. 

Barquiel wrote...

omgmahbrain wrote...

I mean, he is a cowardly incompetent politician, at least all of what I have seen of him points to that at least.

Would you mind providing some proof that Udina is an incompetent politician?

"I'm sick of this council and its anti-human BS" isn't very diplomatic. He's described as a "diplomatic incident waiting to happen" by the Turian Hierarchy as well.

He also has a nasty habit of stabbing his own people in the back to further his own agenda.

Oh wait.

That's every politician.  Nevermind. 

Modifié par amcnow, 22 avril 2011 - 03:21 .

[Manic Sheep]

Barquiel wrote...

omgmahbrain wrote...
I mean, he is a cowardly incompetent politician, at least all of what I have seen of him points to that at least.

Would you mind providing some proof that Udina is an incompetent politician?

"I'm sick of this council and its anti-human BS" isn't very diplomatic. He's described as a "diplomatic incident waiting to happen" by the Turian Hierarchy as well.

This^
Other characters talk about him being a good politician but all you ever seem to see him do is throw hissy fits at the council.

[kumquats]

I do not know how it is in your country. But in my country political debates are like talk shows only without paternity tests.