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Iyashi

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 I just stacked a few fire warding runes and had the elemental shield on and the High Dragon's fire ball was only doing 1 damage on Nightmare. I didn't have to worry about physical damage because I was ranged (obviously). When the small dragons come out I just round them up and 1-shot them with Cone of Cold. 

Anyone else think it was too easy as a mage? (BTW I was doing it solo)

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Yep. Mostly since its impossible to get 100% physical resistence, while you can get 100% fire resistence easy.

Those poor poor solo rogues trying to kill the high dragon (edit: I imagine they swap to bow for it, warriors are screwed though).

Modifié par Apathy1989, 21 avril 2011 - 01:27 .


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Iyashi wrote...

1-shot them with Cone of Cold. 


Interesting - what was your Magic stat?

Also, did you have any cold +% items?

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Good to see people doing this. I remember when claims were made that mages couldn't solo normal anything. That was actually the only reason I made a mage. And solo mage is freaking way more fun than I thought it would be, and it feels more fun than party mage too.

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Yep. Mostly since its impossible to get 100% physical resistence, while you can get 100% fire resistence easy.

That's incorrect. It is possible to attain 100% damage resistance with a S&S warrior with the right gear, Man of the Cloth, and Rock Armor potion.

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IN1 wrote...

Yep. Mostly since its impossible to get 100% physical resistence, while you can get 100% fire resistence easy.

That's incorrect. It is possible to attain 100% damage resistance with a S&S warrior with the right gear, Man of the Cloth, and Rock Armor potion.


And for the mages who like to wear plate armor, then they would be invincible with the sacrifice of some damage.

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naughty99 wrote...

Iyashi wrote...

1-shot them with Cone of Cold. 


Interesting - what was your Magic stat?

Also, did you have any cold +% items?


Not actually one shot 100 of them, but I got their health low enough you can't see the red in the health bar. :P

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Iyashi wrote...

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Yep. Mostly since its impossible to get 100% physical resistence, while you can get 100% fire resistence easy.

That's incorrect. It is possible to attain 100% damage resistance with a S&S warrior with the right gear, Man of the Cloth, and Rock Armor potion.


And for the mages who like to wear plate armor, then they would be invincible with the sacrifice of some damage.


Unfortunately, attaining 100% DR is only possible with a S&S Hawke (not even with Aveline). Since mages do not have access to S&S talents, they won't get close to 100%. 

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IN1 wrote...

Iyashi wrote...

IN1 wrote...

Yep. Mostly since its impossible to get 100% physical resistence, while you can get 100% fire resistence easy.

That's incorrect. It is possible to attain 100% damage resistance with a S&S warrior with the right gear, Man of the Cloth, and Rock Armor potion.


And for the mages who like to wear plate armor, then they would be invincible with the sacrifice of some damage.


Unfortunately, attaining 100% DR is only possible with a S&S Hawke (not even with Aveline). Since mages do not have access to S&S talents, they won't get close to 100%. 


What stat increases DR anyway? Or is it just an equipment property or upgrade? (Man of Cloth)

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Iyashi wrote...

IN1 wrote...

Iyashi wrote...

IN1 wrote...

Yep. Mostly since its impossible to get 100% physical resistence, while you can get 100% fire resistence easy.

That's incorrect. It is possible to attain 100% damage resistance with a S&S warrior with the right gear, Man of the Cloth, and Rock Armor potion.


And for the mages who like to wear plate armor, then they would be invincible with the sacrifice of some damage.


Unfortunately, attaining 100% DR is only possible with a S&S Hawke (not even with Aveline). Since mages do not have access to S&S talents, they won't get close to 100%. 


What stat increases DR anyway? Or is it just an equipment property or upgrade? (Man of Cloth)


Gear and talents only.

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IN1 wrote...

Iyashi wrote...

IN1 wrote...

Iyashi wrote...

IN1 wrote...

Yep. Mostly since its impossible to get 100% physical resistence, while you can get 100% fire resistence easy.

That's incorrect. It is possible to attain 100% damage resistance with a S&S warrior with the right gear, Man of the Cloth, and Rock Armor potion.


And for the mages who like to wear plate armor, then they would be invincible with the sacrifice of some damage.


Unfortunately, attaining 100% DR is only possible with a S&S Hawke (not even with Aveline). Since mages do not have access to S&S talents, they won't get close to 100%. 


What stat increases DR anyway? Or is it just an equipment property or upgrade? (Man of Cloth)


Gear and talents only.


I see. How about DW rouges with D&S? It would be interesting if a rouge with immune to knockback, stun etc. with it. It would be invincible and very powerful.

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Benchmark wrote...

Good to see people doing this. I remember when claims were made that mages couldn't solo normal anything. That was actually the only reason I made a mage. And solo mage is freaking way more fun than I thought it would be, and it feels more fun than party mage too.


Especially with Unshakable you won't get interupted all the time unlike rouges etc.

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All fights involving dragons are pathetically easy.  Now if DA dragons were anything like Firkraag from baldur's gate II, they might actually be entertaining.

Modifié par Jack-Nader, 21 avril 2011 - 10:08 .


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Yeah, the High Dragon was cake with my FM/SH controller. The battlefield is huge enough that you can kite if you need to. Not that I needed to, I just had Aveline activate Shield Defense and tank while everyone else just wailed on the dragon. The adds were probably the hardest part (two big dragons + hordes of dragonlings caught me off guard), but nothing I couldn't remedy with either a Group Heal or a Revival. And then it was back to the office for another day of auto-attacking the High Dragon to death.

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What you need is an assassin dragon it seems, a dragon that pops out of stealth and bites you in the back. That should provide entertainment =) .

I do agree the high dragon fight being easier than most big fights, although I think its because we get access to so many skills and options by the time we get there it just makes it easier. Not the way it is designed or anything.

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Nasabe wrote...

What you need is an assassin dragon it seems, a dragon that pops out of stealth and bites you in the back. That should provide entertainment =) .

I do agree the high dragon fight being easier than most big fights, although I think its because we get access to so many skills and options by the time we get there it just makes it easier. Not the way it is designed or anything.


Orsino was just a big chunk of health waiting to be depleted. I use him to test out builds and then just reload my save and use a Maker's Sigh. :P

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That's just crazy. True, I believe it.
But still crazy.
Just finished my first playthrough, and that was with a 2H warrior. classic, honest to God, build. :D
Afterwards, I started seeing all these people talking about how the game was easier if Hawke is a mage, and also that Warrior was a more technical character, and you should try it only after getting some knowledge of the game... I was like, "what?!"
Then I started a game as a mage and yeah, that ogre on the outskirts of lothering was so easy...
On my warrior game I was the last man standing after that ogre fell. All others had fallen (well, I didn't use potions, just on Hawke - was enjoying the visuals instead of planning the fight).
All the main fights were tough. That thing in the deeproads, the valterral (not that much, but still a challenge), and Arishok - that was tough, had to try it 3 times. I think only at the very end, with my warrior above lvl 20 things started getting easier.

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Panurge Pantagruel wrote...

That's just crazy. True, I believe it.
But still crazy.
Just finished my first playthrough, and that was with a 2H warrior. classic, honest to God, build. :D
Afterwards, I started seeing all these people talking about how the game was easier if Hawke is a mage, and also that Warrior was a more technical character, and you should try it only after getting some knowledge of the game... I was like, "what?!"
Then I started a game as a mage and yeah, that ogre on the outskirts of lothering was so easy...
On my warrior game I was the last man standing after that ogre fell. All others had fallen (well, I didn't use potions, just on Hawke - was enjoying the visuals instead of planning the fight).
All the main fights were tough. That thing in the deeproads, the valterral (not that much, but still a challenge), and Arishok - that was tough, had to try it 3 times. I think only at the very end, with my warrior above lvl 20 things started getting easier.


Probably because the advantage of being ranged helps alot. The ogre was so easy because he really never touched you and your just snaring him and kiting. Have you played as a rouge? You can ask IN1 about rouges, he solo'd NM as a rouge archer, 217k on Orsino, killed the Arishok on NM in 5 seconds etc. :wizard:

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Yep. Mostly since its impossible to get 100% physical resistence, while you can get 100% fire resistence easy.

That's incorrect. It is possible to attain 100% damage resistance with a S&S warrior with the right gear, Man of the Cloth, and Rock Armor potion.

hmm
Kking armor - 20% - 111
Helm - 16% - 133
Belt - 10% - 112
Ring1 - 7% - 48
Ring2 - 2% ?  - 0

friendship bonus - 5%
Potion - 10%

Talents : Adamant 5%
Shield defense - 25% ?

lolz exactly 100% ><
but only for frontal unless frontal = 180% and Stone wall +50% DR for the other 180% 
Total cost = 404 g thats sure a challange assuming you want to buy tomes.

are there any boots / gloves / amulets with damage resitance ? i kinda dont like sebastian