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Noelemahc

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 So, I've recently moved to Windows 7 to make use of DX10 and am still in the process of reinstalling my games. Nothing in the hardware has been changed except adding more RAM since this machine had WinXPSP3 installed on it, and ME1 ran fine on that.

Machine specs:
Intel Core i7, 860 @ 2.8Ghz
8 Gb RAM
nVidia GeForce GTS 250 1 GB VRAM
Driver versions tried: 270.61 WHQL; 270.51 BETA; 269.26 BETA.

The bug: all the human and asari eyes are black, like the eye sockets are empty. The game is creepy enough without that. This apparently affects a specific effect, rather than just the eyes - krogan and turian eyes are rendered normally, while Tali's visor isn't rendered AT ALL. Which is nice, but not nice, if you know what I mean.
I've searched the forums, but the solutions are either "buy a video card that isn't below the game's minimum requirements" or "upgrade your drivers". Well, I'm in the process of trial-and-error DOWNgrading my drivers because I had the latest available ones installed when I got around to reinstalling ME1. And I can't downgrade beyond the versions mentioned above because of DA2 and its dismal optimization that ruins FPSes if my drivers get below a certain version.

So... help?

Modifié par Noelemahc, 21 avril 2011 - 10:25 .


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Bogsnot1

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If you are not willing to downgrade further, theres not much that can be done. The newer the drivers get, the less support they have for older games such as ME1.

Best solution would be to run a dual-boot config with WinXP on a secondary partition so you can make use of both old and new games.

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Noelemahc

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Aw fiddlesticks. I could be willing to downgrade further, if BioWare would fix DA2's slowdown problems internally, instead of relying on nVidia who apparently hate their guts =)
I'm afraid it's more of an x64 issue than anything else, the XP I was using was x86.

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Gorath Alpha

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The conflicts between recent Geforce drivers and several older games, not just Mass Effect, NWN2, and DAO, isn't a BLANKET situation. Not every single one of the drivers after 197.something have had the same problems, just most of them.

It should be noted that both of Bioware's UT3 games, ME1 and ME2, will present this symptom with some graphics card / graphics driver combinations. 

As always, when graphical anomalies appear, it is the sum total of all factors working together that must be dealt with.  Yes, it is almost certain this time for this situation, that a too-recent driver is at fault.  However, it is more likely to occur with older and lower quality video hardware than with gaming quality graphics components.  The Direct3D files can also become damaged in some manner, requiring a reinstall of Dx9.0c (not Dx10, not Dx11).  Last, the game itself may have become damaged, and may require an uninstall / reinstall. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 09 juin 2011 - 07:39 .


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Captain_Obvious

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Gorath Alpha wrote...

The conflicts between recent Geforce drivers and several older games, not just Mass Effect, NWN2, and DAO, isn't a BLANKET situation. Not every single one of the drivers after 197.something have had the same problems, just most of them.


Have you found this to be a standard problem with GeForce cards?  Back when I used to run a PC, it seemed like my GeForce cards always gave me trouble with older games.  Just wondering because I'm considering building a new pc. 

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Gorath Alpha

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For a lot of years, it was ATI struggling with bad graphics drivers, and nVIDIA really doing a very professional job in that regard. But they have themselves between that proverbial great big rock and really huge hard place. The future for computer development is headed for miniaturization and combined video graphics with multi-core processors, and nVIDIA has no access to an X86 CPU it can merge its graphics with.

Smart Phones and Tablet PCs use "ARM" processors, which still trail behind in overall power, while leading everyone in low power drain for long battery life. nVIDIA has licensed the ARM design and will start with phones to try to compete with AMD and Intel.

Their older GPUs are being lost in the shuffle (7n00, 8n00, 9n00). For late model cards, their prices aren't competitive, is really the biggest problem from a gamer's viewpoint. Their chips are huge, power hungry, hot running, and noisy. They are very fast, though.

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Noelemahc

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Fun update time: since then, I've switched to a different vid card (I blame Battlefield 3, of course). It's a GF GTS560Ti with 2 gigs of VRAM! DX11 all the way, baybee!

In any case, it doesn't have the black eyes bug anymore. Instead, ME1 crashes after 4-5 minutes of ingame time, almost precisely. Gotta time it, I guess. In any case, anyone knows any solutions to getting rid of intermittent crashes?