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[Merced652]

Not really, even if i never see the rest of morrigan's story i can go to sleep happy that someone somewhere will take the lessons of DA2 to heart and not **** up a good IP in a similar fashion.

[erynnar]

Tommy6860 wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...

Tommy6860 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Jerryk72 wrote...

The Dragon Age IP is not going away anytime soon. After playing DA2 I have an even lesser desire to crawl through DA:O again. The silent hero is so 20th century.

Stopped reading at "so 20th century".  Too indicative of the change-is-always-awesome, new-is-always-better, consume-replace-consume-replace attitude that's helping to chew up and spit out our culture.

My sentiments as well. I have no problem with change, but this kind of change is just aimed at the sole purpose of marketing and promoting consumerism, leaving little to the imagination and fostering any artisitc values..

Going by the previous poster's comment, I would think "button awesome" would fit that too, I mean, button mashing games have bene around as long as games that require imagination and creativity.

Also, you can't call a voiced PC an impovement over the Silent Protagonist, you can only call it two different styles.

The silent protagonist offers pros that Voiced PC doesnt have, and vice versa, so calling VP an improvement is unfair.

SP offers more of an ability to role play within the character, and to be that character, whilst offering huge amounts of immersion and depth, but makes the PC a less "defined character". This works well in classic RPG's like DAO.

VP offers easier access and fluidity, plus more of a defined character for the story, but also limiting the role playing options of the character, since the character is not you. This works well within games like Mass Effect.

It just comes down to personal preference, i prefer the SP, but don't say one is an "improvement" because its not, its just a different way.

Yes! Probably one of the more reasoned replies I've read here in a while. It really does come down to taste and I will never say that VP cannot be part of role-playing, though like you, I more than prefer the SP. The VP worked very well in Mass Effect for example. My problem with DA2 is not that there's VP, but that the story is so disjointed, areas so re-used and the scripting of the dialogue was poorly written, that having a VP just added to the poor quality, which, IMO, didn't define DA2 as an RPG as much as an action/adventure game. Some of the responses just came across as blunt, aside from many times the answers/questions I chose just didn't fit the responses.

This^ Same here, and it is a very well done on SP and VP. I prefer the SP too, I want to be the character and have more immersion. Again personal preference

[Persephone]

Merced652 wrote...

Not really, even if i never see the rest of morrigan's story i can go to sleep happy that someone somewhere will take the lessons of DA2 to heart and not **** up a good IP in a similar fashion.

Thank you ever so much for reminding me why I owe those who helped bring down the Gabriel Knight franchise ("Sierra will learn that 3D doesn't belong in an adventure and then........WOO!") and thus contributed to the death of an entire genre a good verbal lashing. Because Sierra sure "learned". Have you seen an Adventure franchise that came even CLOSE to the GK series since 1999? No? Take a guess why. Such a "victory" is beyond hollow and nothing to be proud of.

Modifié par Persephone, 21 avril 2011 - 05:26 .

[Icy Magebane]

I doubt it would matter to me. The story is interesting, but I can live without seeing any more of it... I think that import errors, disregard for established lore, and swapping protagonists every game (presumably Hawke won't be in DA3) has a lot to do with it. I'd like to see improvements, but I don't expect much. At this point, DA2 doesn't reflect much of what happened in my version of DA:O, so why would I think it would in DA3? I have little faith that there won't be more import errors, and the ones that exist have already ruined the story for me. As far as I can tell, they aren't even trying to fix the import errors...

[Merced652]

I danced on sierra's corpse.

[Persephone]

Merced652 wrote...

I danced on sierra's corpse.

Point....missing it entirely.

[Persephone]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

I danced on sierra's corpse.

You really don't want to get Persephone angry, you wouldn't like her when she's angry...

He/she doesn't like me anyway. I happen to love DAII and not worship DAO without reservations. So build my pyre already! The witch must burn!

(Some haters really do remind me of the mob trying to burn Abigail in "The Witcher".....)

Modifié par Persephone, 21 avril 2011 - 05:35 .

[Merced652]

What? Sierra's last good game was Lords of the Realm 2.

[Turnip Root]

Yes I will be sad but I do think that Dragon Age III should probably be the last game in the series. Having the franchise as a trilogy like Mass Effect would be ideal. After Dragon Age III and Mass Effect 3 I think Bioware should create a new franchise.

[Mr.House]

Yes I will, I loved both games, would hate to see the series die because Bioware put a bad LD in charge and he tried to make DA something it's not.

[Persephone]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

I danced on sierra's corpse.

You really don't want to get Persephone angry, you wouldn't like her when she's angry...

He/she doesn't like me anyway. I happen to love DAII and not worship DAO without reservations. So build my pyre already! The witch must burn!

(Some haters really do remind me of the mob trying to burn Abigail in "The Witcher".....)

I sided with the villagers (I played Geralt as a giant douche)

Evil creature!!! While Abigail is far from my fave character, I would
NEVER support such bigotry. Ever. But I'll have to play an evil Geralt
one of these days.....[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

Modifié par Persephone, 21 avril 2011 - 05:46 .

[Persephone]

Merced652 wrote...

What? Sierra's last good game was Lords of the Realm 2.

Given that it was the Adventure genre they were best at, no thanks. And Sierra did not make Lord of the Realms II, Impressions Games did. Sierra only acted as its publisher, they weren't the devs.

[Merced652]

Persephone wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

What? Sierra's last good game was Lords of the Realm 2.

Given that it was the Adventure genre they were best at, no thanks. And Sierra did not make Lord of the Realms II, Impressions Games did. Sierra only acted as its publisher, they weren't the devs.

True, so sierra never made a good game!

[legitimatebusiness]

Yes I will. Dragon Age is definitely the coolest medieval fantasy universe out there right now. Plus, all the unanswered questions that I'm aching to find out like what the hell is the deal with the primeval thaig? what is the nexus golem talking about "the stone lives beneath Orlais"? What is the Enigma of Kirkwall? What is Flemeth really? Or what about Sandal's creepy omen? Am I going to regret boinking Morrigan to save my own skin?

[Merced652]

legitimatebusiness wrote...

Yes I will. Dragon Age is definitely the coolest medieval fantasy universe out there right now. Plus, all the unanswered questions that I'm aching to find out like what the hell is the deal with the primeval thaig? what is the nexus golem talking about "the stone lives beneath Orlais"? What is the Enigma of Kirkwall? What is Flemeth really? Or what about Sandal's creepy omen? Am I going to regret boinking Morrigan to save my own skin?

Interesting choice of wording there. 

Modifié par Merced652, 21 avril 2011 - 05:59 .

[erynnar]

Persephone wrote...

erynnar wrote...

Persephone wrote...

I would be VERY sad, given how DAII's ending had me biting my nails, I am that eager to know what's going to happen.

My reaction? I'd "congratulate" the haters for successfully killing a franchise they tried to "save". Again. I've seen this happen SO many times.

(And by haters I do not mean those who post constructive criticism. I mean those who openly admit to sabotaging ratings without ever having played it. Who spam 0/10 reviews on Metacritic. Those who belittle, mock and trash the game as well as its supporters in EVERY thread) 

Ugh see, and I feel bad as I didn't know a 7 was average. I totally messed up my metacritic rating ( I didn't give it a 0) but it wasn't high enough. That was my first time rating a game ever. I am very embarrassed by that. It say I may post  again so I will.

I would be very sad. I like DA and the lore. I see no reason to kill the franchise just because of DA2. Some liked it some didn't (me). And even if I didn't it doesn't mean it didn't have parts that I loved (because it did).

Don't worry too much about it. To me and many others a 6-7 is an average rating. There are FEW games I'd give anything below a 5-6. Only "The Guild II" (If you thought DAII had bugs and issues, try that!) and "Gothic IV" would get such a low rating from me. But that is just me.

Well, thanks, I still feel bad.

LOL! I am very interested in trying other RPGs I have missed ( I am a new fan to the genre). And yeah the 10/10 I woudln't give for DAO either.  Oh and the first sign of name calling and I put "no" for helpful review, even I agreed with them. And the ones who think it's great with no name calling get a "yes."

[Persephone]

Merced652 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

What? Sierra's last good game was Lords of the Realm 2.

Given that it was the Adventure genre they were best at, no thanks. And Sierra did not make Lord of the Realms II, Impressions Games did. Sierra only acted as its publisher, they weren't the devs.

True, so sierra never made a good game!

That just about shows what you know about supposedly "good" games. (And explains your whole "DAII=Spawn of the Devil" attitude) DAII is in very good (GOTY receivers) company then.

[orbit991]

I would just treat DAO as a standalone game, with an ending and look forward to other franchises.

[Dragoonlordz]

Merced652 wrote...

I danced on sierra's corpse.

Shh you, they had great titles like Heroquest, Swat series, Half-Life, Homeworld, Kings Quest under their banner even if just published some. If it isn't published, you don't play it so you can't degrade them based off just because they published it.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 21 avril 2011 - 06:11 .

[Persephone]

orbit991 wrote...

I would just treat DAO as a standalone game, with an ending and look forward to other franchises.

I do treat is as a standalone game usually. But the main story arch on Thedas sure got interesting in DAII. I'll not abandon the DA franchise.

[Merced652]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

I danced on sierra's corpse.

Shh you, they had great titles like Heroquest, Swat series, Half-Life, Homeworld, Kings Quest under their banner even if just published some. If it isn't published, you don't play it so you can't degrade them based off just because they published it.

I forgot about HL, they did make a good game, and god bless them for supporting Counter-Strike. 

[Cutlass Jack]

*Sigh* I miss Sierra. Unfortunately I started missing them before they actually closed down...