This extends to Templar abilities as well as Mage abilities like Spell Shield and what not, but I'm finding these skills to be pretty pointless or situational not necessarily because they're bad but because of the distinct lack of mages as enemies. Sure you'll fight one or two at a time, but you can easily deal with them with other abilities like Crushing Prison or Pinning Shot which makes allocating your points into these talents/spells kind of pointless.
What do you guys think? Have you found these abilities mroe useful than I?
Usefulness of anti-mage focused abilities?
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ITSSEXYTIME
, nov. 19 2009 02:19
#1
Posté 19 novembre 2009 - 02:19
#2
Posté 19 novembre 2009 - 02:54
You said it all with 'lack of mages as enemies'.
If at least 25% of hostile encounters would include being attacked by magic, they might gain some usefulness, but so far I found mages, in their current presence, barely prove a threat, merely a bit of annoyance that's easy to deal with by attacking them first.
If at least 25% of hostile encounters would include being attacked by magic, they might gain some usefulness, but so far I found mages, in their current presence, barely prove a threat, merely a bit of annoyance that's easy to deal with by attacking them first.
#3
Posté 19 novembre 2009 - 03:35
Well, I find Spell Clash to be the most useful of those abilities, and it works on enemies with mana, meaning abominations, even if they don't cast spells. It's pretty much an instant death spell a vast majority of the time, so I'd say that it's useful. If enemies had that ability to use against my mage character, and actually used it, they would've one-shotted me too.
#4
Posté 19 novembre 2009 - 03:46
Not sure how you can find mages to be barely a threat when Fireball has a nasty knockdown + dot, crushing prison effectively removes 25% of your combat strength ( and even worse if it lands on your dispeller) and curse of mortality ensures that you have to learn a dispel on one of your mages.
In any case, mana clash is your best anti-mage spell out there imo. Strips them of all their mana and usually killing them outright (or leaving them with a sliver of their health) means the most dangerous threats are eliminated quickly. Also demons usually have mana, so mana clash can be a nice AOE in a variety of different situations.
In any case, mana clash is your best anti-mage spell out there imo. Strips them of all their mana and usually killing them outright (or leaving them with a sliver of their health) means the most dangerous threats are eliminated quickly. Also demons usually have mana, so mana clash can be a nice AOE in a variety of different situations.
#5
Posté 19 novembre 2009 - 03:54
I have never actually used the Templar active abilities on many mages. I used holy smite as a ranged pull/knockback. And ... I keep forgetting the AoE dispell about because I do not want to dispell my buffs. The passives are kind of nice for the warriors though. Gotta love resisting those Crushing Prisons and Curse of Moralities (happens from time to time but is notoften if you have not put points in magic). Sadly I cannot tell how much mana per hit I drain so I cannot say how effective it is (most mages die before I can tell if they are mana starved on normal difficulty).
#6
Posté 19 novembre 2009 - 04:04
Anything is more useful than a templar. Mana Clash is godly spell in a terrible line. There are better option for ridiculous aoe damage.
#7
Posté 19 novembre 2009 - 04:05
Both Mana Clash and the equivalent Templar ability Holy Smite are incredibly effective against mages, the problem as you've already identified is that anti-mage abilities aren't useful all of the time. As such, its quite possible that you find benefit from other spell/talent branches where 4 points spent elsewhere may not be as effective against mages but provide more benefit to every situation that isn't limited to being useful against mages only. As others have stated, there's other ways to neutralize mages that may not kill them quickly like Mana Clash/Holy Smite, but work equally well against any mob type.





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