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[88mphSlayer]

so smudboy was actually right heh, maybe the human reaper gets a steering wheel too

[Bad King]

jamesp81 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

One of the reapers at the end of Mass Effect 2 was shaped like a beetle while Harbinger and Sovereign are shaped like cuttlefish with insectoid legs. So their outer shells really aren't as similar as the interviewer and Mr. Walters think.

I think their outer shells are whatever the hell Mr Walters says they are, period, the end.

So if he says their outer shells are giant pineapples they're giant pineapples?

[jamesp81]

Bad King wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

One of the reapers at the end of Mass Effect 2 was shaped like a beetle while Harbinger and Sovereign are shaped like cuttlefish with insectoid legs. So their outer shells really aren't as similar as the interviewer and Mr. Walters think.

I think their outer shells are whatever the hell Mr Walters says they are, period, the end.

So if he says their outer shells are giant pineapples they're giant pineapples?

Yes.

[88mphSlayer]

Bad King wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

One of the reapers at the end of Mass Effect 2 was shaped like a beetle while Harbinger and Sovereign are shaped like cuttlefish with insectoid legs. So their outer shells really aren't as similar as the interviewer and Mr. Walters think.

I think their outer shells are whatever the hell Mr Walters says they are, period, the end.

So if he says their outer shells are giant pineapples they're giant pineapples?

well the human reaper was made out of people...

[didymos1120]

IntrepidProdigy wrote...

Doesn't make sense considering we went inside a reaper (granted it was dead/unconscious) that was thoroughly studied by Cerberus. Thanks for the added plot holes, Mac.

We explored a tiny, tiny fraction of that (heavily damaged) Reaper.  Also, showing us something like that at that point would have spoiled the end boss:

"Oh hey, there's this giant robot thingy in here that looks like some kind of alien or something...."

[didymos1120]

AwesomeName wrote...


In any case, he's correct; all the Reaper shells do roughly follow the same pattern.  It sounds like you're just amplifying the differences too much.

Yeah this is like b!tching that horses and lizards can't possibly both be tetrapods because their legs attach at different angles.

[CroGamer002]

88mphSlayer wrote...

so smudboy was actually right heh, maybe the human reaper gets a steering wheel too

DON'T bring him here.

[Bad King]

AwesomeName wrote...

Bad King wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Bad King wrote...

One of the reapers at the end of Mass Effect 2 was shaped like a beetle while Harbinger and Sovereign are shaped like cuttlefish with insectoid legs. So their outer shells really aren't as similar as the interviewer and Mr. Walters think.

I think their outer shells are whatever the hell Mr Walters says they are, period, the end.

So if he says their outer shells are giant pineapples they're giant pineapples?

He's not going to say that though.

In any case, he's correct; all the Reaper shells do roughly follow the same pattern.  It sounds like you're just amplifying the differences too much.

How do you know he won't come up with that?  pics.livejournal.com/ozanare/pic/0001aqs5

The only thing they seem to have in common is the long tail, the frontal section does vary quite a bit amongst certain reapers. 

Modifié par Bad King, 21 avril 2011 - 10:44 .

[Autoclave]

This is just an attempt to mitigate the damage done the overall plot in ME2. They try to give some sense to the human reaper.

[XavierL]

How about this crazy idea: There's more than one type of Reaper. There's the massive dreadnought ships, but there's also smaller non-vessel or "mobile" types. A Reaper the size of a small sky-scraper that's meant for ground warfare. Reapers that could be deployed planet-side that can take out large weapon installments. Possible?

[didymos1120]

Bad King wrote...

The only thing they seem to have in common is the long tail, the frontal section does vary quite a bit amongst certain reapers. 

Uh, let's see:

Elongated, tapering hulls. 
Front section with "eyes". 
Multiple, articulated "legs" attached toward front of hull.
Hull materials used appear to be the same.
No significant variation in hull coloring.   
Strip lighting on hulls: some blue, but mostly white. Laid out in simple, geometric patterns, especially underneath.

That's exactly what was claimed: a similar pattern.

[VioletSparks]

ExtremeOne wrote...

IntrepidProdigy wrote...

Doesn't make sense considering we went inside a reaper (granted it was dead/unconscious) that was thoroughly studied by Cerberus. Thanks for the added plot holes, Mac.

   

That is a plot hole and of course the people at GI did not call him out on it . is mind numbing  

how is that a plot hole!? we don't know nearly enough to say what should and shouldn't be on a reaper (a 50sumfin million year old one at that), and we explored the tiniest section of a ship the size of a small city. The race used to make it could be incomprehensible to our eyes, being so old and all, and, if constructed like the larvae from the endgame, any recognisable 'avatar' would be hundreds of meters within the superstructure.. if we even knew what we were looking at.

[Bluko]

Eternz wrote...

Q&A with Mac Walters

Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like
appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems
like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient
design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is
created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect
2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.

We can finally put the argument to rest!

I've been trying to explain this to people for months now. Again I feel this picture is very helpful in explaining the size.



See the original body could literally be located anywhere inside the adult Reaper's main body. It's probably heavily protected as well since this original body likely functions as the mind for the Reaper, much like our brains which are protected by our skulls.

As for the Reaper we went into, who's to say that the Mass Effect core is attached to the original body? Also we have no idea how the original Reaper shifts into the new body. It's not as illogical as it sounds unless you think the Reapers are welded together piece by piece. Obviously Reapers are able to shift their material on very small scale (probably nanomachines), to the point that they mimic our cellular regeneration. If the Reapers can convert our body tissues into mechanical and electrical parts (Husks) why is this any more unbelievable?

Modifié par Bluko, 22 avril 2011 - 01:31 .

[ExtremeOne]

VioletSparks wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

IntrepidProdigy wrote...

Doesn't make sense considering we went inside a reaper (granted it was dead/unconscious) that was thoroughly studied by Cerberus. Thanks for the added plot holes, Mac.

   

That is a plot hole and of course the people at GI did not call him out on it . is mind numbing  

  






how is that a plot hole!? we don't know nearly enough to say what should and shouldn't be on a reaper (a 50sumfin million year old one at that), and we explored the tiniest section of a ship the size of a small city. The race used to make it could be incomprehensible to our eyes, being so old and all, and, if constructed like the larvae from the endgame, any recognisable 'avatar' would be hundreds of meters within the superstructure.. if we even knew what we were looking at.

  








It is a plot hole so now the reapers have different forms. Oh please it sounds so stupid and dumb . The whole reaper story is now a joke .  Now I see why Cerberus was turned evil .  what are we going to see in 3 big and small reapers or  even worse Halo style  midget size reapers .   

[Dean_the_Young]

There's also the relevant factoid from the GI article that 'Mature Reapers' range from 2K to .5K meters long. Size changes between them, apparently.

[didymos1120]

thurmanator692 wrote...

So they aren't eyebrows?

They aren't eyebrows in the way asari aren't women: not in any way that makes a damn bit of difference.

Modifié par didymos1120, 22 avril 2011 - 01:40 .

[88mphSlayer]

the derelict reaper itself is a plot hole anyways - need proof of the reapers Shepard? also why is Cerberus using humans and not robots?

[kalpain]

thurmanator692 wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

There's also the relevant factoid from the GI article that 'Mature Reapers' range from 2K to .5K meters long. Size changes between them, apparently.

One of the article pics depicts a lil reaper, looks like its hunting people through the streets
It also tells how a thresher maw grabs one and drags it underground, and that sounds like it has to be kinda small.

Actually it's probably a Collossal Thresher Maw.  It was mentioned in one of the Cerberus news reports that some Krogans took a picture of it on Tuchunka.  It apparently puts the normal ones to shame...

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