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[ISpeakTheTruth]

Ashley is too pro-Human to be a Spectre.

Kaiden is a few years from going insane/his head exploding from his L2 implant

Come on people.

[Siansonea]

Jzadek72 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Is anyone still seriously up in arms about this? Ridonk.

I don't see the problem. It certainly makes more sense than, say:

• A drell, turian or quarian wanting to have the sexytimes with a HUMAN.
 

Off topic, but if all of their HUMAN fans wanted to have sexy times with a drell, turian of quarian, the why shouldn't it go the other way?

I think a chat with Mordin about all the reasons not to go there says all that needs to be said.

[Siansonea]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Ashley is too pro-Human to be a Spectre.

Kaiden is a few years from going insane/his head exploding from his L2 implant

Come on people.

OMG, this is like, SO well thought out. Except, you know, not.

Ashley is pro human in 2183. Ashley is not made a Spectre in 2183.

Your statement about Kaidan is based on what exactly? And for all we know, he may have been upgraded to an L5 implant by the time ME3 starts.

So if THOSE are your reasons, you need to get better reasons. Come on people.

[darknoon5]

Siansonea II wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Ashley is too pro-Human to be a Spectre.

Kaiden is a few years from going insane/his head exploding from his L2 implant

Come on people.

OMG, this is like, SO well thought out. Except, you know, not.

Ashley is pro human in 2183. Ashley is not made a Spectre in 2183.

Your statement about Kaidan is based on what exactly? And for all we know, he may have been upgraded to an L5 implant by the time ME3 starts.

So if THOSE are your reasons, you need to get better reasons. Come on people.

I think he was trying to make a funny.

[Someone With Mass]

Political investment. That's what I think is the only reason they were even considered to be Spectres, because I don't believe that "they could've gotten better during those two years, herp a derp" crap at all. I think I would've noticed or been told if they did something that spectacular to be worthy of becoming Spectres. Which isn't the case.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

People never catch on to my sarcasm.

In all honesty though the VS is so boring when compared to all the other characters in the game that being a Spectre would be the only story line that could make them more interesting. Plus it would follow the trend of Shepard's squad mates becomeing more powerful. Liara - The Shadow Broker and Wrex - a powerful Krogan Clan leader.

It would be sad if Ashley and Kaide stayed grunt soilders.

[Siansonea]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Political investment. That's what I think is the only reason they were even considered to be Spectres, because I don't believe that "they could've gotten better during those two years, herp a derp" crap at all. I think I would've noticed or been told if they did something that spectacular to be worthy of becoming Spectres. Which isn't the case.

Tali's not going to be the next human Spectre. I know it hurts, but that's the way it is.

[Someone With Mass]

Siansonea II wrote...

Tali's not going to be the next human Spectre. I know it hurts, but that's the way it is.

Oh, shut the **** up, you ****. I've never stated that  I want Tali to be a Spectre. I don't even think she'd be a good admiral. So for once in your "mature" life, is it really too much to ask of you to keep your ****ing retarded accusations to yourself?! 

Seriously. I've had enough of your bull****. 

[Siansonea]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

People never catch on to my sarcasm.

In all honesty though the VS is so boring when compared to all the other characters in the game that being a Spectre would be the only story line that could make them more interesting. Plus it would follow the trend of Shepard's squad mates becomeing more powerful. Liara - The Shadow Broker and Wrex - a powerful Krogan Clan leader.

It would be sad if Ashley and Kaide stayed grunt soilders.

Your sarcasm was a little too stealth.

Though to hear some around here tell it, Ashley and Kaidan should be washing dishes in a diner on the Citadel, they're just tooo stoopid and mean for daring to say mean stuff to them (the player, not Shepard) on Horizon. I mean, didn't they know that Cerberus had brought them (again, the player, not Shepard) back to life and they had to stop the Collectors that are like a legend that nobody knows about and the Illusive Man even said they're working for the Reapers and you could totally tell on Freedom's Progess when we ran into Tali... (Pause) ...that the Collectors were totally abducting humans and making smoothies out of them at the end of the game so they could make a big Terminator thingie and it was going to invade the galaxy and kill all humans for smoothies and didn't they know all that?! Stoopid Ashley and Kaidan!

[Siansonea]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Tali's not going to be the next human Spectre. I know it hurts, but that's the way it is.

Oh, shut the **** up, you ****. I've never stated that  I want Tali to be a Spectre. I don't even think she'd be a good admiral. So for once in your "mature" life, is it really too much to ask of you to keep your ****ing retarded accusations to yourself?! 

Seriously. I've had enough of your bull****. 

I sense...displeasure?

[PrinceLionheart]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Political investment. That's what I think is the only reason they were even considered to be Spectres, because I don't believe that "they could've gotten better during those two years, herp a derp" crap at all. I think I would've noticed or been told if they did something that spectacular to be worthy of becoming Spectres. Which isn't the case.

Exactly how would you know anyway when even the freakin Shadow Broker don't have access to their files?

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Yeah, I don't think any of them would make a good Spectre. Hell, Jacob would be better off than any of them, not to mention Garrus.

[Someone With Mass]

PrinceLionheart wrote...
Exactly how would you know anyway when even the freakin Shadow Broker don't have access to their files?

I think at least someone would mention their deeds if it made them Spectres.

[Siansonea]

Someone With Mass wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...
Exactly how would you know anyway when even the freakin Shadow Broker don't have access to their files?

I think at least someone would mention their deeds if it made them Spectres.

Spectres are covert operatives, not ambassadors. The fact that Kaidan/Ashleys exploits are so well-concealed is a mark in their FAVOR. Next argument.

[PrinceLionheart]

Someone With Mass wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...
Exactly how would you know anyway when even the freakin Shadow Broker don't have access to their files?

I think at least someone would mention their deeds if it made them Spectres.

Way out in the Terminous system? C'mon man, you're grasping for straws. 

[Barquiel]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

Yeah, I don't think any of them would make a good Spectre. Hell, Jacob would be better off than any of them, not to mention Garrus.

Garrus has tried (twice now) to become one - and failed.

Jacob is a cerberus operative...and Cerberus is a "vowed enemy of the council"

[Someone With Mass]

PrinceLionheart wrote...
Way out in the Terminous system? C'mon man, you're grasping for straws. 

No, I'm trying to shove away the bull****, that's all.

They made such a huge deal out of the Spectres in the first game. Now it's just a title you can add to your resume for giggles.

[Siansonea]

mrsph wrote...

The Shadow Broker has info about everything literally nothing is classified or unavailable to him.

Riiiight. Except, you know, not. If that were the case, we would know exactly what Kaidan and Ashley have been up to since 2183 in exacting detail. Even if they were working the counter at Citadel Souvenirs on Zakera Ward the whole time. And yet, the Shadow Broker didn't have the intel. So, hypothesis debunked.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 22 avril 2011 - 04:25 .

[Destroy Raiden_]

I don't like this idea of them being the second human spector I didn't hear anything about it neither did any of the living crew. Though I could always see VS on Horizon just saying they're with the Alliance but being a spector sense shep use to play the same game but shep never did big projects only to check out things in ME. He went it flashed his spector badge and said give me what I seek weather the people he was dealing with obliged was another matter.

I agree with LordEurope in that they lack qualification though in two years I suppose with spector training they could make up for it but Kaiden dies on virmire in 9 out of 10 of my games for a reason he's not a tank, he's a liability power wise, mentally wise, and strength wise. Ashley lives 9 times out of 10 because she's more stable tactically she was very strong in ME, she's more mentally fit, and she won't blow up my ship because she got a headache but even based on that I don't see her as having the overall mental stamina to take on spectorship and handle all the pressure and restraint a position like that entails.

[Clonedzero]

with shepard dead and humans becoming a bigger part of the council regardless of your council choice at the end and the only human spectre being "dead" why not ashley / kaidan?

they were on the team that saved the galaxy. can't really get a bigger recommendation than that. shepard probably also gave them huge positive reviews. both rose in rank quickly after shepard "died", both probably took on some big operations while you were "dead" as well.

the alliance probably pushed for a bunch of human spectres to be floating about. why not one of the best people you have? ashley/kaidan. it makes perfect sense really. i dont understand why so many are against this.

[Siansonea]

Anyone else getting the feeling that the real problem here is that it's looking more and more like this version of ME3 isn't in the cards?

Modifié par Siansonea II, 22 avril 2011 - 04:34 .

[Clonedzero]

Barquiel wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

Yeah, I don't think any of them would make a good Spectre. Hell, Jacob would be better off than any of them, not to mention Garrus.

Garrus has tried (twice now) to become one - and failed.

Jacob is a cerberus operative...and Cerberus is a "vowed enemy of the council"

garrus is also famous for doing whatever he wants though. he's an absolute loose cannon, ashley and kaidan follow orders to the letter.

[jlb524]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...
Ashley is too pro-Human to be a Spectre.

You could say something similar about Saren.   Actually, he was worse.