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[Sumerisle]

This is the official Obsidianent hate thread?
I would really like see an Obsidian DA. It would be like refreshing the series.
Alpha Protocol is one of my favorite games. Too bad people and critics thought about it like it was "Metal Gear meets Mass Effect". I don't know why people think "It's buggy." Do they really played the whole game, or they only read a pseudoreview? I finished the game without any trouble at all 2 times. Do you people are all game testers who play the game like bugtrackers? And once you find a possible bug you stop playing and complain until they patch the game, and then start to play to again just to try to find another? I play games to enjoy them. If the game is really bugged, so bad that I cannot complete it (I don't remember any game so bugged), then I'll complain. You care about an "Unbalanced" sinlge player, with no online mode or anything? Come on...
Fallout NV is the best computer RPG game that I played since Fallout 2. You don't like the Fallout series? You only like Bioware's products? It's OK. Just say it.

[GraciousCat]

Not that it would ever happen, but if it did I would give it a shot. I've only played two of their games, KOTOR II and New Vegas, and I had an enjoyable enough experience with both of them. Aside from one glaring bug that I saw in the New Vegas DLC that prevented me from returning to the Mojave Wasteland upon completion of the DLC.

Modifié par GraciousCat, 30 avril 2011 - 07:07 .

[Tommy6860]

Sumerisle wrote...

This is the official Obsidianent hate thread?
I would really like see an Obsidian DA. It would be like refreshing the series.
Alpha Protocol is one of my favorite games. Too bad people and critics thought about it like it was "Metal Gear meets Mass Effect". I don't know why people think "It's buggy." Do they really played the whole game, or they only read a pseudoreview? I finished the game without any trouble at all 2 times. Do you people are all game testers who play the game like bugtrackers? And once you find a possible bug you stop playing and complain until they patch the game, and then start to play to again just to try to find another? I play games to enjoy them. If the game is really bugged, so bad that I cannot complete it (I don't remember any game so bugged), then I'll complain. You care about an "Unbalanced" sinlge player, with no online mode or anything? Come on...
Fallout NV is the best computer RPG game that I played since Fallout 2. You don't like the Fallout series? You only like Bioware's products? It's OK. Just say it.

But I actually like volcanic glass formed from extrusive igneous rock, so no hate here for obsidian. I don't like ad hominem though.

[TAJ4Life]

MorrigansLove wrote...

What if Obsidian took over the Dragon Age series like they took over the Fallout series? Would you mind? Do you think it would be a better game than Dragon Age 2? What are your thoughts on this random topic of mine.

I don't know what drugs you are on but for you to come out and say that is completely obsurd, Obsidian are absolutly useless.

[Desnai]

Sumerisle wrote...

This is the official Obsidianent hate thread?
I would really like see an Obsidian DA. It would be like refreshing the series.
Alpha Protocol is one of my favorite games. Too bad people and critics thought about it like it was "Metal Gear meets Mass Effect". I don't know why people think "It's buggy." Do they really played the whole game, or they only read a pseudoreview? I finished the game without any trouble at all 2 times. Do you people are all game testers who play the game like bugtrackers? And once you find a possible bug you stop playing and complain until they patch the game, and then start to play to again just to try to find another? I play games to enjoy them. If the game is really bugged, so bad that I cannot complete it (I don't remember any game so bugged), then I'll complain. You care about an "Unbalanced" sinlge player, with no online mode or anything? Come on...
Fallout NV is the best computer RPG game that I played since Fallout 2. You don't like the Fallout series? You only like Bioware's products? It's OK. Just say it.

Yeah, I played through Alpha Protocol three times, and am thinking of a fourth. FNV warranted three playthroughs.  I played DA2 all of once, and even then, I dropped the diffficulty down and powered through just to see the rest of the 'story'.  Now if Bioware can return to what made Origins so good, I'd love to see it.  If they continue down this road, then I don't think Obsidian could do any worse and would most likely be an improvement.  Every one has their own opinons though, so YMMV.

[MorrigansLove]

TAJ4Life wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

What if Obsidian took over the Dragon Age series like they took over the Fallout series? Would you mind? Do you think it would be a better game than Dragon Age 2? What are your thoughts on this random topic of mine.

I don't know what drugs you are on but for you to come out and say that is completely obsurd, Obsidian are absolutly useless.

Don't insult someone just for liking a videogame company you don't like.

[Shadowlit_Rogue]

I love Obsidian. It says something when I played KotOR 2, a game that had very little to do with its prequel (my all time favorite game), and still came away loving it. For all the usual flaws that usually come with their games, they know how to tell stories at least on par with BioWare.

When they're given enough time, that is, which is a rare thing these days, lol.

[TAJ4Life]

MorrigansLove wrote...

TAJ4Life wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

What if Obsidian took over the Dragon Age series like they took over the Fallout series? Would you mind? Do you think it would be a better game than Dragon Age 2? What are your thoughts on this random topic of mine.

I don't know what drugs you are on but for you to come out and say that is completely obsurd, Obsidian are absolutly useless.

Don't insult someone just for liking a videogame company you don't like.

I'm not exactly insulting the person but its a known fact Obsidian are a very bad developer I cannot think of any games they have ever made that were any good and I mean their OWN games. They made one on the 360 which turned out completely rubbish and they even admitted it and the price went down within the first 2 weeks!
KOTOR 2 was not their game nor was Fallout: Vegas before you say anything they used existing tools and just played around with it to create a game but was never their actual OWN game.

[Dreadstruck]

TAJ4Life wrote...

nor was Fallout: Vegas before you say anything they used existing tools and just played around with it to create a game but was never their actual OWN game.

New Vegas is closer to the original series and a vast improvement over the shallow Oblivion clone called Fallout 3 made by Bethesda.

I wouldn't write that game off "just because it uses existing assets"

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 01 mai 2011 - 11:51 .

[TheRaj]

Obsidian are a fantastic studio. I still love Bioware, but after DA2, I'm putting Obsidian ahead of them.

Lets how they do with Skyrim but I have a feeling they won't drop the ball. I'm staying hopeful...

Not sure I'd give them DA though - its a different kind of game. If you wanted a less story driven and more open ended version of DA then yes it could be interesting, but DA:O was good for other reasons.

[TheRaj]

TheRaj wrote...

Obsidian are a fantastic studio. I still love Bioware, but after DA2, I'm putting Obsidian ahead of them.

Lets how they do with Skyrim but I have a feeling they won't drop the ball. I'm staying hopeful...

Not sure I'd give them DA though - its a different kind of game. If you wanted a less story driven and more open ended version of DA then yes it could be interesting, but DA:O was good for other reasons.

Hah. Funny. I just spent twelve hours on a plane and now I end up confusing Obsidian and Bethseda.

Please find/replace Obsidian with Bethesda in your head and re-read the above.

[TheRaj]

TheRaj wrote...

TheRaj wrote...

Obsidian are a fantastic studio. I still love Bioware, but after DA2, I'm putting Obsidian ahead of them.

Lets how they do with Skyrim but I have a feeling they won't drop the ball. I'm staying hopeful...

Not sure I'd give them DA though - its a different kind of game. If you wanted a less story driven and more open ended version of DA then yes it could be interesting, but DA:O was good for other reasons.

Hah. Funny. I just spent twelve hours on a plane and now I end up confusing Obsidian and Bethseda.

Please find/replace Obsidian with Bethesda in your head and re-read the above.

And, er, move it to another thread too...

[MorrigansLove]

lol

[fallingseraph]

Dunno, I like Obsidian. Vegas was fun and it was nice to play another Fallout.
Loved NwN 2, not more then NwN but more than DA2.
KoToR2 was fun and nice to play an Old Republic canon rpg.

Asking if Obsidian made DA2 is a trick question, I think the problem isn't Bioware but EA.

[Ndutz]

Well judging from Kotor 2, Alpha Protocol, New Vegas, Obsidian seems to be a very ambitious RPG developer in terms of delivering interesting gameplay mechanic. But their execution often falls short.
I still enjoyed Kotor 2 more than the first one however, it has a very morally ambiguous tone to the story that i think would sit well with Dragon Age. (Not that Dragon Age isnt morally ambiguous enough)

Modifié par Ndutz, 01 mai 2011 - 04:38 .

[Curlain]

Ndutz wrote...

Well judging from Kotor 2, Alpha Protocol, New Vegas, Obsidian seems to be a very ambitious RPG developer in terms of delivering interesting gameplay mechanic. But their execution often falls short.
I still enjoyed Kotor 2 more than the first one however.

I really wish they had had the time to complete KOTOR 2 properly, I'll always be a little pissed at LucasArts for rushing it, and it had such great characters (as much as I like Flemeth, Keira beats her anyday of the week)

[Chromie]

Curlain if you can install Kotor 2 and look for the the sith lords restoration project. It really shows what Obsidian was going for and frankly if they had the time to fnish it might have been better then Kotor actually.

[TAJ4Life]

Ndutz wrote...

Well judging from Kotor 2, Alpha Protocol, New Vegas, Obsidian seems to be a very ambitious RPG developer in terms of delivering interesting gameplay mechanic. But their execution often falls short.
I still enjoyed Kotor 2 more than the first one however, it has a very morally ambiguous tone to the story that i think would sit well with Dragon Age. (Not that Dragon Age isnt morally ambiguous enough)

No they are not ambitious they have been GIVEN the toolset everything was already made for them, basically Bethesda hands them the stuff to create a game using the existing assets as they probably feel sorry for them.
 Alpha protocol was a failure pretty much games this gen they have made with their OWN tools have been failures.

Obsidian is down there with South Peak another useless developer that cannot make any decent games.

With games like Fallout: Vegas Bethesda's name is still on it.

Stop living in cucoo land and wake up.

I don't want Obsidian touching anything Bioware make, DA2 is still a good game I mean despite its flaws its Bioware is the only developer who's games I have played 4-5 each which includes ME1 and 2, DA1 and 2.

[TAJ4Life]

Curlain wrote...

Ndutz wrote...

Well judging from Kotor 2, Alpha Protocol, New Vegas, Obsidian seems to be a very ambitious RPG developer in terms of delivering interesting gameplay mechanic. But their execution often falls short.
I still enjoyed Kotor 2 more than the first one however.

I really wish they had had the time to complete KOTOR 2 properly, I'll always be a little pissed at LucasArts for rushing it, and it had such great characters (as much as I like Flemeth, Keira beats her anyday of the week)

No it wasn't rushed another illinformed person *sigh* for an RPG to last around 50hrs with less than half of the bugs and problems of today's games how can you say it was rushed?? RPG's nowadays dont seem to last that long and have tons of issues. Only developer I can think of is Bethesda who have created games with minimal issues and lasts a lot more than 50hrs.

[Critical Miss]

MorrigansLove wrote...

Obsidian do tell a damn good story.

I agree.
Meh, since this came up on the Bioware forums anyway, I'd like to see the two companies work together on a DA title. Together they have the potential to create a fantastic game. Can I say that without getting flamed?

[Eternal Phoenix]

Okay, I know this thread hasn't had posts for a month now but people keep mention that Obsidian should take over the Dragon Age series in other threads and I say; look at Obsidian's latest release; Dungeon Siege 3, they ruined the Dungeon Siege series by COMPLETELY removing the tactics, strategy and the PARTY members and you really want them doing Dragon Age 3? DA2 is dumbed down compared to Origins but it's not dumbed down like Dungeon Siege 3, the way I see it, DA2 could be worst and it would have been worst if Obsidian developed it. It would just be Hawke running about alone; completing quests that can't be finished because of the game killing bugs that are present in all Obsidian games.

BTW, Obsidian ruined the NWN series when they created NWN 2. They ruin everything, the only series they didn't ruin was the Fallout series because Bethesda had ruined that for them. It's my understanding that some are good developers and that some of Obsidian's developers created the first Fallout and the sequel when they were part of another company but when they formed into Obsidian, they went to Hell.

It's also funny how Obsidian is always the company people fall back to when their favourite RPG developer fails but when the next big RPG comes out from said developer, they dump Obsidian back in the trash where it belongs.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 22 juin 2011 - 05:41 .

[In Exile]

I'm sure this will get locked, but DS3 confused me terribly. Obsidian sucks at the game part of the game and excells at the story part of the game. DS3 is all hack & slash gameplay, basically. Why would Obsidian take on that product?

[FieryDove]

I enjoyed NWN2, Loved mask of the betrayer and loved Kotor2. I was lucky I didn't encounter any bugs aside from the occassional invisa wall in kotor2 but kotor1 had that as well. I like Obsidian a lot but can't see EA/Bioware selling the DA IP.

As to DS, I enjoyed the first two games but prefer party-based RPG's. Bioware does create the best NPC's in my opinion. DS3 does not appeal to me so not concerned about it.

[ErichHartmann]

Dungeon Siege III was another failed attempt by Obsidian to revive and build upon a series. Even though I have high regard for New Vegas publishers should think twice before letting Obsidian develop an established series for them.

Modifié par ErichHartmann, 22 juin 2011 - 06:08 .

[RangerSG]

Curlain wrote...

Ndutz wrote...

Well judging from Kotor 2, Alpha Protocol, New Vegas, Obsidian seems to be a very ambitious RPG developer in terms of delivering interesting gameplay mechanic. But their execution often falls short.
I still enjoyed Kotor 2 more than the first one however.

I really wish they had had the time to complete KOTOR 2 properly, I'll always be a little pissed at LucasArts for rushing it, and it had such great characters (as much as I like Flemeth, Keira beats her anyday of the week)

You know, I bought that argument back for Knights 2. But the simple fact is, Obsidian ends up gutting and rushing EVERY game they make. NWN2 did the same thing as well, in addition to all the games you've listed. Heck, with Alpha Protocol, they were given ADDITIONAL time and they still had dreadful gameplay issues.

They're generally good storywriters who are undisciplined in their craft. I don't want them anywhere near DA. And there's no valid reason for them to touch it. They didn't *improve* either game series they inherited from Bioware previously. And those were outside IPs, not inhouse.

And Keira was the epitome of "obvious betrayal." There were interesting parts of TSL's story. The ham-handed betrayal and half-hearted romances were *not * among them.

I'll give credit to Obsidian for 1 good expansion pack to date. Mask of the Betrayer. Beyond that, they're a developer I sank a lot of money in out of loyalty to Black Isle, but they've returned little of that trust.

Modifié par RangerSG, 22 juin 2011 - 07:50 .