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Is the Mattock the New Default Rifle?


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JoeClose wrote...

I love the Avenger. I'm sorry but an assault rifle with two motha 'uckin barrels spitting out hot metal at relativistic velocities? Yes please.


Pretty sure one of them is just a vent and isn't shooting anything.

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Hope not.
I hate Mattock.


Avenger FTW!

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JoeClose wrote...

I love the Avenger. I'm sorry but I simply cannot deny how badass an assault rifle with two barrels is.

Every blooddy gun has two bloody barrels. The GPR has 3!

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Nashiktal wrote...

Ah but remember, the most powerful isn't the best. The damn mattock has caused me more trouble than it has saved me.

I kick ass early on, then I run out of ammo and I have to scramble around to find some clips.


More or less my experience with the Mattock. I even stopped using the Vindicator just because the ammo supply is utter crap.

Modifié par Lunatic LK47, 22 avril 2011 - 11:02 .


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Skarwael wrote...

I'll have a Revenant, thanks.

Me too

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Pwease don't nerf!

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They should make the Avenger better. It's really weak, but one of the coolest guns in ME

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it needs more red. red goes faster and is stronger. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhh

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Nashiktal wrote...

I have a love-hate relationship with the Mattock. It will drop your target like a hot potatoe, but you are pretty much guaranteed to run out of ammo before the fight is over. (at least on insanity, I havn't played the easier difficulties in a while)


I use the mattock as my soldier shep's main AR and i can tell you that on casual it basically will make the heavy pistols useless, and on normal(prefered difficulty) it does the job though that's not saying much cause the weapon does have the huge flaw of having a small amount of ammo so you will be switching to a pistol or a sniper, now to get even more indepth having played with the weapon I find it would be better that if you went the soldier shock trooper route to go with the revenant cause imo it works better with the shock trooper, now if you go the soldier commando  route stick with the mattock and combo it with the phalanx and either the widow,mantis or viper sniper rifles never use the incisor cause it sucks that is just my opinion, sorry for the long windness of my post

order of ar's by damage(info gotten from the Mass Effect WIKI)
1 mattock
2 vindicator
3 revenant
4 collector
5 (tie) geth assault and avenger

sorry if this was offtopic

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I prefer the Vindicator


( Mattock means sweet in hebrew )

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Revenant>Vindicator>GPR>CER>Mattock>Avenger.

that's how I see it, playing on HC or Insanity.

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Joshua nash wrote...

order of ar's by damage(info gotten from the Mass Effect WIKI)
1 mattock
2 vindicator
3 revenant
4 collector
5 (tie) geth assault and avenger


That's not right.  By damage tables alone...

1) Mattock
2) Revenant
3) Vindicator
4) Geth Pulse Rifle
5) Avenger/Collector Assault Rifle

Anyway, I doubt it's the new default so much as a cool gun for them to show off.  As to it's power and usefulness, it's clearly the most overpowered weapon in the game and if you can consistently peg headshots with it or at least body shots it's a game breaker.  Personally I prefer the Revenant.  I simply like machine guns and the Revenant is nearly an all-purpose weapon between it's damage output and ammo count.

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b09boy wrote...

Joshua nash wrote...

order of ar's by damage(info gotten from the Mass Effect WIKI)
1 mattock
2 vindicator
3 revenant
4 collector
5 (tie) geth assault and avenger


That's not right.  By damage tables alone...

1) Mattock
2) Revenant
3) Vindicator
4) Geth Pulse Rifle
5) Avenger/Collector Assault Rifle

Anyway, I doubt it's the new default so much as a cool gun for them to show off.  As to it's power and usefulness, it's clearly the most overpowered weapon in the game and if you can consistently peg headshots with it or at least body shots it's a game breaker.  Personally I prefer the Revenant.  I simply like machine guns and the Revenant is nearly an all-purpose weapon between it's damage output and ammo count.

 
actually i'm right cause i used the mass effect wiki as my source
http://masseffect.wi.../Assault_Rifles

go there yourself you'll see the base damage of the vindicator is 36.8 and the revenant is 21.5 so the revenant is weaker then the vindicator

also see this for a better refernce source on weapons damage in ME2
http://www.gamefaqs....ct-2/faqs/58941

anyone else wondering what a fully modded mattock would be like cause according to a spanish gaming mag there will be five different mod piece per weapon part ( basically 5 different barrels, 5 different scopes, etc.) so just imagine all the possiblities for us to truthfully make our prefered AR the beasts we really want them to be 

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Urdnot Orrad wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

What are you talking about? The Avenger is my favorite rifle.

In any case I hope not. The Mattock is so powerful its broken, but it also had a clip size so small it was pitiful. I hated using that thing, only ever gave it to grunt to use.

I hope they keep the Avenger though. That thing was my baby.


Why do you like the Avenger so much? Is it because its fully auto?

I wish there was a fully auto AR that didn't suck.

Yeah now that we're back with the Alliance maybe we can get the Lancer back instead crap Volus weapons.


The Lancer sucked. Gimme my old Spectre Master Gear HMWA-X back, pleez.

That's the Vindicator

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Reapinger wrote...

Revenant > Mattock > Avenger


This.

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The Avenger will always be the default rifle.

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DJCS wrote...

Urdnot Orrad wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

What are you talking about? The Avenger is my favorite rifle.

In any case I hope not. The Mattock is so powerful its broken, but it also had a clip size so small it was pitiful. I hated using that thing, only ever gave it to grunt to use.

I hope they keep the Avenger though. That thing was my baby.


Why do you like the Avenger so much? Is it because its fully auto?

I wish there was a fully auto AR that didn't suck.

Yeah now that we're back with the Alliance maybe we can get the Lancer back instead crap Volus weapons.


The Lancer sucked. Gimme my old Spectre Master Gear HMWA-X back, pleez.

That's the Vindicator


Nope. The Vindicator is a grey/light blue. The HMWA-X was black... and full auto (while also being insanely accurate). :P Granted, the HMWA has the same overall design as any of the "secondary" ARs from ME1, so... yeah.

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Joshua nash wrote...

 
actually i'm right cause i used the mass effect wiki as my source
http://masseffect.wi.../Assault_Rifles



So am I.  But I'm going by DPS while you're going with base damage.

http://masseffect.wi...omparison_Chart

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I usually switch it up every play through, constantly using every rifle as much as possible for the aesthetic value. I'm glad that ME2 allows us to see what weapons we have in the cutscenes.

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I hope they do, I like the Mattock way better than any other assault rifle in the game, it is more accurate, powerful, and even at short range I can unload the whole magazine faster than I can with the Vindicator and have them all on target.

Modifié par Wardog15, 23 avril 2011 - 03:39 .


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Having had some experience with these devices, I've often wondered why the 'deliberate aim' AR/SMG function doesn't present you with an AimPoint or EOTech-like sight view. I can tell you that this type of sighting system makes a big difference in CQB and also at longer distances.

After all, we get a laser with the Phalanx - why not an EOTech-like optics? Wouldn't be that hard to do,.

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It would be odd for ME3 to have a semi-auto, "specialized" rifle for the starting AR.

In most games, the starting, or most common, AR is a low accuracy, high ROF "bullet hose", which is great for inexperienced players and is dangerous in the hands of a veteran player.

The Mattock seems to have a steeper learning curve than the other rifles, and is only useful for certain types of players. Not exactly the ideal weapon to start the game with, nor is it the all-purpose, close-range to mid-range rifle that you would generally get as your standard rifle.

I think the Avenger is a good starting weapon, and a decent weapon for a good portion of the game, although I support the idea of giving the player "specialized" AR's later in the game.

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I doubt it. I think the Avenger is going to remain as the default Assault Rifle. Love it or hate teh design is iconic, I love the way it folds up when Shepard isn't using it.

Having said that the Mattock has become my Assualt Rifle of choice. The second I get the Normandy the first thing I do is go to the weapons locker and swap out the Avenger for the Mattock and the M-3 Predator ( Heavy Pstol in case you were wondering ) for the M-5 Phalanx. Yes the weapons from teh firepower pack dlc are over-powered but they also look cooler than all the other ones in the game, laser sights ftw.

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so i hate reviving a long dead thread, but I couldn't find one that was remotely related so here does. does anybody know if the Mattock will be available in game without having bought the firepower pack for ME2? I played the ME3 demo with it and i love it, but I didn't get the DLC for ME2 and I'm hoping i'll be able to find or buy it in game.