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Dmaster292

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So I'm trying to get the Mage Hunter Achievement for my last achievement, and I'm wondering about the specifics of it.

For example the quest I'm about to start with: wayward son

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Guides have told me that the agreeing with a faction rests on where you tell him to go: mages like the dalish option, templars like the circle option. However I also know that in this quest a Templar has a secret about an abomination daughter. The templars would probably appriciate being told about said templars secret but it seems like a nasty thing to do.

In essence my question is: Does this achievement, and its companion achievement Arcane Defender, rest on the set seven decisions I have seen in various guides? Or do other options invalidate the choices/ count? for example sending feynriel to the circle but keeping thrasks secret = a) templar agreement (1/5) or B) no agreement or c) an agreement with either side.

Playing through my first time I got the Arcane Defender achievement without trying because I tended to see them as the more moral options. That said I always try to get Samson's templar status back because it seemed best for the mages but the guide tells me its the templar option.

Incedentaly this is the guide I'm using:

ACT I: Side with one faction twice and the other faction once (ex. Mage - 2, Templars - 1)


1. Wayward Son: Mage - Send Feynriel to the Dalish Templar - Send Feynriel to the Circle

2. Act of Mercy: Mage - When speaking with Grace, agree to kill Thrask Templar - Refuse to help Grace

3. Enemies Among Us: Mage - Let Keran stay in the Templars Templar - Get Keran expelled from the Templars


ACT II: Side with the faction that you only sided with once in the Act I quests. You should now have sided with each faction twice. NOTE: Do the 'Night Terrors' quest right before you do the 'Demands of the Qun' quest and IMPORTANT: Make sure you save after completing it.


* 4. Night Terrors: Mage - Encourage Feynriel to control his abilities Templar - Turn Feynriel Tranquil

ACT III: Side with the same faction for all three quests. This should unlock the achievement for one side. Then simply reload your save game after the Night Terrors quest and do the same for the other faction to get both of these achievements in one playthrough.


5. Showdown: Not exactly a quest, but during the opening cutscenese of Act III, after finishing defeating the Arishok for Demands of the Qun, select the following dialogue options: Mage - "Orsino is right". Templar - "Meredith is right".

6. On the Loose: When speaking to Emile in the Hanged Man Inn: Mage - "I could let you go" or Templar - "Turn yourself in"

7. Best Served Cold: Mage - Select "Kill them all" when speaking with Cullen Templar - Select "Give Samson another chance"

*Originally posted by FSparacino4 on xbox360achievements.org*

So basically does the achievement rest on these specific decisions or are there any other factors.

Thanks

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Asdara

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I ... think so. At least, I've read that too - I just feel bad no one has answered you lol, maybe the bump will help someone who is more awesome to come along.

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Saephy

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I can`t answer your question, but I`ll give you the link to a thread which somewhat discussed this previously, where Alex Kershaw provides a comprehensive list of decisions which led to his achievement.

http://social.biowar...4/index/7081524

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MEMANIAsama

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Posting in here because I'm having the same issue. Wikia says one thing, in fact it includes an 8th item as well... particularly if you agree with Orsino or Meredith in the end of Act 2.

http://dragonage.wik...Arcane_Defender

Plus, there is differing info on Best Served Cold. I followed all the information in multiple ways in Act 3 and NO LUCK.

I asked all the mages to be spared, I used positive responses about mages with Samson, I murdered all the mages, I even incriminated Alain. Every time I turn the quest into Orsino I get nothing. Which means one of two things... whose plan you go with at the end of Act 2 doesn't count, or something else is way more out of whack with Best Served Cold (There is mention of a bug, but it only occurs when siding with the opposing side than who you sided with at the beginning of Act 3.)

Anyways, seriously, how is KILLING EVERYBODY WHO WAS TRYING TO OVERTHROW A TEMPLAR, INCLUDING SAMSON count as being an "Arcane Defender"?!