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[JnEricsonx]

Which is one of the ingredients in black powder/gunpowder, not sure what drakestone would equal.  So, I always figured Anders cooked up some kind of a bomb, and then magically enhanced it, kinda how in Stargate SG-1 they mentioned that mixing Naquida into a nuke made it 10x more powerful.

[Nyaore]

I imagine that the drakestone acted as an igniting agent of some sort, though I can't for the life of me remember if the characters in the game ever ex-posited upon what it was actually used for in their world.
Still, it's hilarious how the writers made little attempt to hide what Anders was really making from the audience. The characters we're playing as have no idea how a bomb is created, given that for the most part bomb making is something that very few outside of the Qun partake in. But most players I've found knew something was up the moment Anders mentioned the crystallized waste.
What I want to know, however, is where Anders learned how to make a bomb given how jealously the Qunari guard their secrets. Maybe Dworkin gave him a free tech demo back at Vigil's Keep?

[mesmerizedish]

Not just saltpeter. Magic saltpeter.

[Sabariel]

I imagine that in the end Anders didn't even use the ingredients Hawke collected. Ser Pounce-a-lot came back to help his ol' buddy out. Aww :3

[mesmerizedish]

Sabariel wrote...

I imagine that in the end Anders didn't even use the ingredients Hawke collected. Ser Pounce-a-lot came back to help his ol' buddy out. Aww :3

Ser Pounce woulda been all "B*tch, no you DID NOT." And then he'd have catscratched Anders until Justice left in terror.

[ajm317]

JnEricsonx wrote...

Which is one of the ingredients in
black powder/gunpowder, not sure what drakestone would equal.  So, I
always figured Anders cooked up some kind of a bomb, and then magically
enhanced it, kinda how in Stargate SG-1 they mentioned that mixing
Naquida into a nuke made it 10x more powerful.

Yes, it's fairly obvious it is saltpeter.  The Drakestone was sulphur, another ingredient in gunpowder.

Drakestone was a little vague (they describe it as a yellow rock) but once you put it in context with the saltpeter it becomes clear what it is.

I'm not really sure what the point of it all was from a plot standpoint, obviously it wasn't common gunpowder that blew up the Chantry.  I assume Anders used it since he went to the effort of getting it, maybe it was as you describe.  From a writers standpoint it was clearly a bit of foreshadowing for people who knew a little chemistry and were paying attention.

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Not just saltpeter. Magic saltpeter.

Given that you find it by looking at feces in a sewer I doubt this myself.  Unless people and animals in Kirkwall crap magic.

[Waltzingbear]

From Dragon Age Wiki:
The items that you collect are two of the components for gunpowder. Sela Petrae is saltpetre (latin: sal petræ), which can be extracted from urine, guano, and the like. Drakestone is sulfur, which can be found in many mineral deposits.

[JnEricsonx]

Times like this I like being able to use my non-geek knowledge.

[hoorayforicecream]

I wondered whether this means Anders reverse-engineered the black powder recipe. That might be kind of interesting.

[Big I]

ajm317 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Not just saltpeter. Magic saltpeter.

Given that you find it by looking at feces in a sewer I doubt this myself.  Unless people and animals in Kirkwall crap magic.

I think "magic" refers to the red magical explosion that completely obliterates what looks like a three or four storey building.

[highcastle]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I wondered whether this means Anders reverse-engineered the black powder recipe. That might be kind of interesting.

Except the explosion is very obviously not a normal bomb. Unless normal explosions are bright pink. So I think some of the ingredients of blackpowder are in play, but since it's Anders, there's also magic involved.

[IanPolaris]

The Core of the bomb is clearly blackpowder (15:3:2 saltpeter:charcoal:sulfur) but it's equally obvious that Anders enhanced it magically.

-Polaris

[The Cannibal Factory]

I can't help but wonder what magic Anders' used to create such a massive effect. Not blood magic, or masses of lyrium - the usual staples of big magical effects in the DA universe - but what then...?

It's been bugging me for a while now. I tend to wonder if he sent the Chantry into the Fade, rather than blew it up, just because whatever he did looked so outrageously powerful, ie: the Chantry seemed to rise up into the air and deconstruct somehow.

[Bobad]

highcastle wrote...

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I wondered whether this means Anders reverse-engineered the black powder recipe. That might be kind of interesting.

Except the explosion is very obviously not a normal bomb. Unless normal explosions are bright pink. So I think some of the ingredients of blackpowder are in play, but since it's Anders, there's also magic involved.

Fabulous explosion is fabulous.

[DeathStride]

@OP:

sela petrae... salt peter...

haha I never really gave the name much thought even though now that you mention it, it seems incredibly obvious...:innocent:

I was really hoping it would be an anagram, but I checked and it doesn't work out. As Waltzingbear mentioned, I suppose they meant it to derive from the Latin root.

Modifié par DeathStride, 23 avril 2011 - 04:46 .

[Sabariel]

highcastle wrote...

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I wondered whether this means Anders reverse-engineered the black powder recipe. That might be kind of interesting.

Except the explosion is very obviously not a normal bomb. Unless normal explosions are bright pink. So I think some of the ingredients of blackpowder are in play, but since it's Anders, there's also magic involved.

I tell you, Ser Pounce-a-lot came back to help.

[JnEricsonx]

Or Anders figured out how to do a variant of the Qunari gaatlok? Which thankfully never gets used in this game?