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[TEWR]

Nyaore wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Pfft, we all know that if it's written in a game it must be true and not subject to rumors or downright misinformation. Just look at all the codex entries by Genetivi, the man obviously knows his ****.

Genetivi is a beast. Fact.

Survives an encounter with the Dalish, has a good deal of knowledge about the inner workings of the Circle, and among other things even got to see the ashes of Andraste up close and in person. Why aren't we playing a game about him instead?

because he's bald. Sadly that's the reason. If he could only find the elixir that allows hair growth he'd be the new protagonist for DA3.


And I bet Xenon the Antiquarian is hoarding this elixir. Probably wants Thaddeus to grow some hair.

[upsettingshorts]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

because he's bald. Sadly that's the reason. If he could only find the elixir that allows hair growth he'd be the new protagonist for DA3.

Didn't stop Hawke!

...though that eye mod eventually annoyed me and I'm gonna have to start that album over again, too...

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 22 avril 2011 - 07:18 .

[TEWR]

Aveline looks different....

[upsettingshorts]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Aveline looks different....

She lost her headband, otherwise she's the same.  I'm not sure about that mod either.  Anyway, sidetrack is a sidetrack.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 22 avril 2011 - 07:26 .

[Esbatty]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Pfft, we all know that if it's written in a game it must be true and not subject to rumors or downright misinformation. Just look at all the codex entries by Genetivi, the man obviously knows his ****.

Genetivi is a beast. Fact.

Survives an encounter with the Dalish, has a good deal of knowledge about the inner workings of the Circle, and among other things even got to see the ashes of Andraste up close and in person. Why aren't we playing a game about him instead?

because he's bald. Sadly that's the reason. If he could only find the elixir that allows hair growth he'd be the new protagonist for DA3.


And I bet Xenon the Antiquarian is hoarding this elixir. Probably wants Thaddeus to grow some hair.

No no, the bald is okay if we can steal Patrick Stewart away from Bethseda and get him to be Genitivi... Genvitti? I can't spell it.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Pfft. The epilogues aren't canon anymore

When were they?

Never, according to the devs.

Players assumed differently until devs said otherwise, because we were trusting fools who didn't realise the narrator was taking creative liberties even when the slides weren't being deliberately vague.

[TEWR]

Esbatty wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Pfft, we all know that if it's written in a game it must be true and not subject to rumors or downright misinformation. Just look at all the codex entries by Genetivi, the man obviously knows his ****.

Genetivi is a beast. Fact.

Survives an encounter with the Dalish, has a good deal of knowledge about the inner workings of the Circle, and among other things even got to see the ashes of Andraste up close and in person. Why aren't we playing a game about him instead?

because he's bald. Sadly that's the reason. If he could only find the elixir that allows hair growth he'd be the new protagonist for DA3.


And I bet Xenon the Antiquarian is hoarding this elixir. Probably wants Thaddeus to grow some hair.

No no, the bald is okay if we can steal Patrick Stewart away from Bethseda and get him to be Genitivi... Genvitti? I can't spell it.

with Athenril as a romance option

Athenril: We should head off to Nevarra now Genitivi
Genitivi: In a minute, I want to praise your Maker
Athenril: Ok let's get started.

*five minutes later*
Athenril: Now let's head to Nevarra
Genitivi: Make it so!

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 22 avril 2011 - 07:34 .

[mesmerizedish]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

with Athenril as a romance option

Athenril: We should head off to Nevarra now Genitivi
Genitivi: In a minute, I want to praise your Maker
Athenril: Ok let's get started.

*five minutes later*
Athenril: Now let's head to Nevarra
Genitivi: Make it so!

Five minutes? I'd hope Patrick Stewart lasted longer than that.

[TEWR]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

with Athenril as a romance option

Athenril: We should head off to Nevarra now Genitivi
Genitivi: In a minute, I want to praise your Maker
Athenril: Ok let's get started.

*five minutes later*
Athenril: Now let's head to Nevarra
Genitivi: Make it so!

Five minutes? I'd hope Patrick Stewart lasted longer than that.

what was I thinking?

Correction: five days

better?

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 22 avril 2011 - 07:41 .

[Esbatty]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

with Athenril as a romance option

Athenril: We should head off to Nevarra now Genitivi
Genitivi: In a minute, I want to praise your Maker
Athenril: Ok let's get started.

*five minutes later*
Athenril: Now let's head to Nevarra
Genitivi: Make it so!

Five minutes? I'd hope Patrick Stewart lasted longer than that.

Athenril: Well I booked us passage on ship, we'll have to split a room and well... any ideas how to pass the time?
Genitivi: I'm going to dip my head in warm oil and rub it all over your naked body.
Athenril: I was going to suggest you read a book aloud to me but - that'll do just fine.

[Chuvvy]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

It's already been explained by a dev that there is a reason she's come back from the grave, that the reason won't be prematurely announced, and that we're free to think it's a good/poor reason when it's revealed.

So if you want to know what the mysterious reason is here in your post, you won't get it.

inb4 hurr durr the ashes healed her herp

[Chuvvy]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Never, according to the devs.

Players assumed differently until devs said otherwise, because we were trusting fools who didn't realise the narrator was taking creative liberties even when the slides weren't being deliberately vague.

This also a great start to their saying. "Don't worry guys, Varric wasn't lieing."

[Xewaka]

I would like to know how this is different from all the Baldur's Gate 2 cameos from 1 that could appear despite being dead in the first game. Or how you end captured with Imoen, Minsc, Jaheira, Khalid, and Dynaheir despite not using them in your party in Baldur's Gate.

[Rifneno]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

DemonLord4lf wrote...

Doesn't she know even if you dont bring her along? Doesn't she attack or leave your party when you talk to her in camp, or whenever?

well yea. but you can intimidate her into standing down I think. I don't know, I always preserve the thing, only because none of my Wardens are going to take advice from an insane man who knows nothing about magic, claims he does, and in the summertime drinks blood to cool off.

My favorite reason for preserving it is Oghren's.  "Does this mean we aren't going to kill his pet dragon?  Think of the glory!  :("   Oghren.  After EQ I hated dorfs, Oghren and Varric really turned me back to the short side.

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Pfft. The epilogues aren't canon anymore

When were they?

Epilogues are written by apostates seeking to spread subversion against the Chantry!

But seriously, worst "reasoning" for a retcon ever.

Xewaka wrote...

I would like to know how this is different from all the Baldur's Gate 2 cameos from 1 that could appear despite being dead in the first game. Or how you end captured with Imoen, Minsc, Jaheira, Khalid, and Dynaheir despite not using them in your party in Baldur's Gate.

A (cowled) wizard did it.

I think the difference is in those days they didn't really claim all these decisions would carry over.  Or rather, they didn't try to come up with convoluted reasons for it.  There was a canon and that was that.  Which is fine.

[In Exile]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I've been seeing it everywhere that decapitations are canon. It's pissing me off.

I'm pretty sure that the dead lady in the magical room in the magical lyrium filled mountain with magical healing dust was somehow fine because of the magical healing dust.

I already knew, and accepted, that Leliana's survival will be explained. I never killed her off because there is no justifiable logic to bringing a devout Andrastian to an Urn that you're going to defile.

You think the Urn is a crock of **** but you're desparate, and you're not about to risk your life fighting a cult/dragon for the sake of some loony bin religious types. It requires a bit of handwaving about the whole Grey Warden courage thing, but you could swing it.

[Joy Divison]

Nyaore wrote...

Or you did, but decided that bringing a devotely religious woman to watch one of the most holy relics in her faith be destroyed would be jolly good fun. Granted, you'd have to be either a sadist, someone who genuinely hates Leliana and/or the Andrastian faith, or one of those people who think being the player character automatically means you can get away with pissing off your companions without serious consequences, but that matters little in the grand scheme of things. xD

Or perhaps we didn't metagame and know there would be a Kolgrim offer to defile them.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Slidell505 wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

It's already been explained by a dev that there is a reason she's come back from the grave, that the reason won't be prematurely announced, and that we're free to think it's a good/poor reason when it's revealed.

So if you want to know what the mysterious reason is here in your post, you won't get it.

inb4 hurr durr the ashes healed her herp

To be quite honest, I have no problem with Leliana coming back if she was killed in a giant lyrium-veined mountain where Wierd Stuff Happened. Maybe lyrium brought her back, maybe the Maker did, I don't care, to me it's plausible even if she was beheaded because it's a bloody magical fantasy game.

I have more issues with Oghren coming back to Awakening, with the handwave "He was just unconscious." Yes, after a year of fighting I couldn't tell if a dwarf was alive or passed out.

But in both cases...it's not like most of Ferelden has a tradition of burning bodies to make sure they don't rise again.

[Avissel]

Yeah, you should never consider purely game play things as "canon"

The kill animations were just a nice little game play feature to make the combat seem more interesting. But people love to complain and through the word "retcon" at everything they see.

[TEWR]

In Exile wrote...



I'm pretty sure that the dead lady in the magical room in the magical lyrium filled mountain with magical healing dust was somehow fine because of the magical healing dust.

I know the room is magical. I know that it's a lyrium infused mountain. I know the Ashes are magical. I never said I think her revival is a load of feces derived from a bull. Even before DA2, when I found out you could kill Leliana, I asked myself "The whole mountain is magical, so did I really kill her? Was anything there even real?"

You think the Urn is a crock of **** but you're desparate, and you're not about to risk your life fighting a cult/dragon for the sake of some loony bin religious types. It requires a bit of handwaving about the whole Grey Warden courage thing, but you could swing it.

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that explains why you're defiling it. It doesn't explain why you're bringing Leliana with you, who is a devout Andrastian and will get pissed at what you're doing. Especially since she's voiced her disgust at the thought already

[Avissel]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

that explains why you're defiling it. It doesn't explain why you're bringing Leliana with you, who is a devout Andrastian and will get pissed at what you're doing. Especially since she's voiced her disgust at the thought already

Perhaps your just a complete and total dick?

[TEWR]

Avissel wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

that explains why you're defiling it. It doesn't explain why you're bringing Leliana with you, who is a devout Andrastian and will get pissed at what you're doing. Especially since she's voiced her disgust at the thought already

Perhaps your just a complete and total dick?

well... yea can't argue with that. Other than being a dick to Leliana and/or wanting her dead, nothing justifies it.

"oops I didn't know!"

Sorry doesn't quite fly.

[Avissel]

Yeah...honestly the only justification for defiling the ashes at all is just that your kind of a dick.

You have every opportunity to just take the ashes and leave, no matter what you said to the crazy cult leader. Never mind that you have been fighting the crazy cult and dragons the entire time you were in there, so it's kind of odd to suddenly go "Hey....can't we hug this out? You tried to murder me, I tried to murder you. Lets brofist on that and call it good yeah?"

[TEWR]

Avissel wrote...

Yeah...honestly the only justification for defiling the ashes at all is just that your kind of a dick.

You have every opportunity to just take the ashes and leave, no matter what you said to the crazy cult leader. Never mind that you have been fighting the crazy cult and dragons the entire time you were in there, so it's kind of odd to suddenly go "Hey....can't we hug this out? You tried to murder me, I tried to murder you. Lets brofist on that and call it good yeah?"

The Warden's forming a broalition of insane people.

[Avissel]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The Warden's forming a broalition of insane people.

He must prepare for the bropcalypse.

[TEWR]

Avissel wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

The Warden's forming a broalition of insane people.

He must prepare for the bropcalypse.

brought forth by the mighty Broseidon, king of the Brocean