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[randName]

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

randName wrote...

Looking good there ~ just those nostalgic BG2/DA:O gamers that aren't getting it.

Dragon Age 2 makes Origins look antiquated in comparison. It's just that nostalgia geeks want to re-experience the same rehash of a game from a decade ago over and over. 

I never played BG and did not like the direction DA2 went.

it was sarcasm. god save the people who aren't when saying this.

Honestly I wasn't even sure since some people actually replied to my comment quoted thinking that it wasn't sacasm.

Modifié par randName, 22 avril 2011 - 10:04 .

[TJSolo]

randName wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

randName wrote...

Looking good there ~ just those nostalgic BG2/DA:O gamers that aren't getting it.

Dragon Age 2 makes Origins look antiquated in comparison. It's just that nostalgia geeks want to re-experience the same rehash of a game from a decade ago over and over. 

I never played BG and did not like the direction DA2 went.

Hey! don't say that, you will break the neat little argument that the yay side have to invalidate the nay sides criticism.

Oh right...then I did play BG and DA2 needed to have that hamster as a love interest.

Better?

[randName]

Galad22 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

LyndseyCousland wrote...

Genuine query, where can we get reliable figures?

Bioware headquarters.

Unless they release some, all of this is guess work at best.

According Bioware, DA2 sold 1 million copies in 2 weeks, vgcharts shows sales in two weeks to be around 883k, and since that doesn't include digital sales it doesn't seem to be that much off.

So I'd like to believe there is some basis in truth in these vgcharts figures.

And it's based upon fairly decent methods, it will go awry from time to time, but usually with in acceptable limits, especially when corncering larger titles since they would recieve more, and thus for the sake of gallup like polls better data.

[randName]

TJSolo wrote...
Oh right...then I did play BG and DA2 needed to have that hamster as a love interest.

Better?

Much better, carry on! 

[Fhaileas]

Galad22 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

LyndseyCousland wrote...

Genuine query, where can we get reliable figures?

Bioware headquarters.

Unless they release some, all of this is guess work at best.

According Bioware, DA2 sold 1 million copies in 2 weeks, vgcharts shows sales in two weeks to be around 883k, and since that doesn't include digital sales it doesn't seem to be that much off.

So I'd like to believe there is some basis in truth in these vgcharts figures.

Errr... if you looked at Priestly's post you'll see that he didn't use the word "sold" anywhere... what he mentioned was that DA2 hit the 1 million mark... he worded the statement really carefully so I am dubious as to whether it had even hit a million copies in 2 weeks... he could have been alluding to copies "moved'. 

[randName]

Fhaileas wrote...

Galad22 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

LyndseyCousland wrote...

Genuine query, where can we get reliable figures?

Bioware headquarters.

Unless they release some, all of this is guess work at best.

According Bioware, DA2 sold 1 million copies in 2 weeks, vgcharts shows sales in two weeks to be around 883k, and since that doesn't include digital sales it doesn't seem to be that much off.

So I'd like to believe there is some basis in truth in these vgcharts figures.

Errr... if you looked at Priestly's post you'll see that he didn't use the word "sold" anywhere... what he mentioned was that DA2 hit the 1 million mark... he worded the statement really carefully so I am dubious as to whether it had even hit a million copies in 2 weeks... he could have been alluding to copies "moved'. 

Yes, they normally talk about "shipped" and not sold copies, unless they specify that it's sold I would always go for "shipped", and this concerns any statements from any publisher/dev that doesn't say that they "sold" X copies.

[xkg]

BioWare today confirmed Dragon Age II has sold - not shipped - over 1 million copies worldwide in less than two weeks

[ChickenDownUnder]

In my experience, you will never, ever see a game company release poor sales figures themselves. And, even if something wasn't selling well, PR would do their best to put a positive spin on what had been sold. Like the whole celebrating of selling 1 million in two weeks, but failing to mention that was across all platforms and included pre-orders. Or word it in the way so can't be certain if it was either moved or sold.

Not that 1 mil is bad, mind. You just have to take any news with a hefty amount of salt. Especially online news.

The whole announcement of sales that pretty much match what vcharts is saying does give it credibility though. It's when you are breaking both down that things start to look fishy.

Modifié par ChickenDownUnder, 22 avril 2011 - 10:26 .

[Everwarden]

xkg wrote...




BioWare today confirmed Dragon Age II has sold - not shipped - over 1 million copies worldwide in less than two weeks

That isn't a Bioware source, it's IGN, and the quote they cite doesn't state 'sold' anywhere. 

Granted, I believe they -have- sold over a million, but not in those two weeks. 

[Fhaileas]

Everwarden wrote...

xkg wrote...




BioWare today confirmed Dragon Age II has sold - not shipped - over 1 million copies worldwide in less than two weeks

That isn't a Bioware source, it's IGN, and the quote they cite doesn't state 'sold' anywhere. 

Granted, I believe they -have- sold over a million, but not in those two weeks. 

"Thanks to gamers like you, Dragon Age II is off to a great start – breaking the 1 million mark in less than two weeks and faster than Dragon Age: Origins. We appreciate your support," the developer wrote."

LOL! They are using the very same Priestly statement as affirmation which did not use the word sold anywhere. The fact that they are not merely presuming but explicitly "clarifying" independently that DA2 "sold" -- despite the fact that the developer they're sourcing did not  use the word -- makes me think that the website is shilling for Bioware.

[randName]

Everwarden wrote...

xkg wrote...




BioWare today confirmed Dragon Age II has sold - not shipped - over 1 million copies worldwide in less than two weeks

That isn't a Bioware source, it's IGN, and the quote they cite doesn't state 'sold' anywhere. 

Granted, I believe they -have- sold over a million, but not in those two weeks. 

BioWare stated in the link given by IGN. 
"Thanks to gamers like you, Dragon Age II is off to a great start – breaking the 1 million mark in less than two weeks and faster than Dragon Age: Origins. We appreciate your support. As a special thank you for helping with the game's early success, BioWare would like to present you with a download code for 2010's Game of the Year, Mass Effect 2 on PC. As always, we sincerely appreciate your support and passion as we remain focused on delivering quality interactive experiences now and in the future. Look for more exciting things coming from Dragon Age, Mass Effect, and Star Wars: The Old Republic in the future, including our recent launch of Mass Effect 2 Arrival DLC."

It's weird that IGN states so boldly that EA/BioWare stated that it's sold and not shipped and then won't give a reference on this.

Could be a reference error on the other hand, or that the page was edited later.

Anyway I don't really care if it's 1M shipped or 1M sold to be honest, and VGChartz is close enough - so looks to be around 1M either at 2 weeks or just after, doesn't really say much if they broke the barrior mid week during week three or not.

Modifié par randName, 22 avril 2011 - 10:34 .

[Everwarden]

Fhaileas wrote...
 makes me think that the website is shilling for Bioware.

Very, very likely. No backlash for IGN falsely advertising sales, but if Bioware or EA does it (they're a public company) they will get ****slapped with a heavy fine. 

[SirShreK]

xkg wrote...




BioWare today confirmed Dragon Age II has sold - not shipped - over 1 million copies worldwide in less than two weeks

'Breaking the 1 million mark'

I think he's still talking about the Demo downloads . The million mark of sales may have been broken later.

[Lord Phoebus]

Whether it's a success or failure would depend on how much profit they make from the game and how they choose to look at those profits (i.e. do they look at the total profit or rate at which they make a profit profit/months of dev time). But to know that we would have to know how much development cost, and how much they make per unit sale and the sales figures for each platform (since they make different amounts per unit for different platforms).

To know how it stacks up to DA:O we would really need to know the development cost of DA:O (minus shared resources) vs. DA2, you can't just look at development times, because DA:O didn't have the same number of staff working all the time (when they were working on the engine, they had fewer people working than near the end). There were also a large amount of shared resources between the games that need to be removed from the comparison since they would have had to spend the time and money to create them for DA2 if they didn't have them from DA:O.

[astrallite]

vgchartz is wrong when it comes to DA2.

Just like 4chan trolling is the only reason there are negative critic or user reviews of this masterpiece.

[laudable11]

It is true. One of the Doctors confirmed it in a Gameinformer interview. DA2 got to a million faster than DA:O.

Go to the Mass Effect 3 hub at the Gameinformer site to read the interview.

EDIT: Sorry, the doc only said DA2 is selling faster than DA:O. He did not mention the million mark, but I personally believe it. I dont think EA/Bioware being a public company is going to put fake numbers out there.

Modifié par laudable11, 22 avril 2011 - 11:56 .

[billy the squid]

Yes, if we just ignore the preorders based on dragon age origins, the subsequent nose dive in sales in week 3 onwards(which unless D2D purchases show a complete opposite trend, they won't help much), bundling ME2 with the game to try and shift it, slumping prices a month in, bad word of mouth, cringe worthy developer interviews, blocking user accounts, DRM issues, employees boosting scores on metacritic. 

Then yes I agree DA 2 is doing great both in sales and PR wise! Because it shipped more copies in the first two weeks than the untried new DA O IP, did and was able to take advantage of an established core market willing to buy the game.

(ps. This post may contain sarcasm)

Modifié par billy the squid, 23 avril 2011 - 12:07 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Lol, the one million mark or what have you is irrelevant to me. A lot of those sales came from Origins fans, not necessarily new players.

After around 2-3 months, we'll see how well it's sold in comparison to Origins. Then it will be fair game.

I'm also curious as to when or whether DA 2 will hit the 2 million mark.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 22 avril 2011 - 11:58 .

[Mysterygent]

Guldor wrote...

Which fans are you going to try to get next time...try the Pokemon fans. Our little voiced warden will capture darkspawn within his sword and release them later on to fight for him!! Sounds awesome, you should do it.

Pathetic.

Heck, even Super Mario Brothers don't sound bad: Mario & Luigi saves Thedas from Donkey Kong!! 

Plenty of Button = Awesome action there.

[Harid]

Not for nothing, but aren't vgchartz numbers universally considered to be complete bull****? It's banned on many sites for making up numbers.

[Aaleel]

Mysterygent wrote...

Guldor wrote...

Which fans are you going to try to get next time...try the Pokemon fans. Our little voiced warden will capture darkspawn within his sword and release them later on to fight for him!! Sounds awesome, you should do it.

Pathetic.

Heck, even Super Mario Brothers don't sound bad: Mario & Luigi saves Thedas from Donkey Kong!! 

Plenty of Button = Awesome action there.

Man I wonder if they're ever going to live down the press a button and something awesome happens comment. 

[1000questions]

Aaleel wrote...

Man I wonder if they're ever going to live down the press a button and something awesome happens comment. 

Nope   their fault, they went just overboard to praise DA2 and we are just .... well let us say responding

[Night Prowler76]

Harid wrote...

Not for nothing, but aren't vgchartz numbers universally considered to be complete bull****? It's banned on many sites for making up numbers.

Why would VGcharts be banned on any website? Everyone knows how they get their numbers, just like the movie companies get their numbers, they poll hundreds of retail locations and multiply it to get an average.

Again, vgcharts isnt trying to get on "other" websites, so how exactly would it get banned on a website lol?

[dheer]

Fhaileas wrote...
 makes me think that the website is Shilling for Bioware.

More like a Pounding. Har har.

[88mphSlayer]

SoulRebel_1979 wrote...

Guldor wrote...

Here are the new sales numbers for DA2:

PS3 http://gamrreview.vg.../dragon-age-ii/
360 http://gamrreview.vg.../dragon-age-ii/
PC http://gamrreview.vg.../dragon-age-ii/


The only reason I can see these numbers staying the same from week 5 for this garbage game is the recent price drops. People who were not sure to pay 60,50,40,30$ can now pay 10$ (on the PC anyways) and "try" it out.

Hurry to trade it in at your local game store before your trade-in value drops to nothing!

EDITED:

Hey Laidlaw, here are the numbers for CoD week 10:

http://gamrreview.vg...duty-black-ops/


Which fans are you going to try to get next time...try the Pokemon fans. Our little voiced warden will capture darkspawn within his sword and release them later on to fight for him!! Sounds awesome, you should do it.

Pathetic.

I can't believe COD sold almost 6 million in it's first week world wide. That's insane.

Black Ops is the top selling US game in history