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#601
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CrispyFrog wrote...
but a game has got to have sex appeal these days,

Have to disagree there. Can think of plenty of great games that do well without an iota of it.

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Yes, because everyone who appreciates sexy bodies is a horny teenage mouth-breather.  Guess all the actors out there and anyone with a sexy wife/husband is really just an immature kid.

If it fits the character, it fits.  Design should be based off the character, and they pretty much are in both ME and ME2.

I do find it interesting though that you have no problem with Jack, who was very much oversexualized...

Modifié par Kaedan94, 25 avril 2011 - 03:28 .


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All I can see here is that some people keep forgetting that this is a Video Game,and video games cater as commercials....movies...etc...

With this ideolgy...If I were a fat woman I'd be complaining about the lack of fat women in the game...or perhaps not the lack...but pointing out that there are no fat women in ME universe...
So it's all relative...Hey when i say the vid of Jacob doing push ups shirtless...you didn't see me complaining here...even though I might have thought it to be out of place...

I just choose to see the game for what it truly is...a space adventure...with a great story(for me) and great characters...some sexy, some,****ty or not...I mean again...it's just a game...

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Kaedan94 wrote...

Yes, because everyone who appreciates sexy bodies is a horny teenage mouth-breather.  Guess all the actors out there and anyone with a sexy wife/husband is really just an immature kid.

Uh, no.  That's what the gaming industry thinks.  And that's why I'm pissed.

As for fitting the character, I mentioned that in the OP.  It's one of the reasons I didn't really b*tch until this point.

And as for Jack, the whole topless thing was more for shock value and less for sex appeal.  Like you said, it suits the character.  And the camera doesn't do much boobie-zooming on her.  There was one conversation where the camera went all HEY LOOK SIDEBOOB (which annoyed me), and then another where it did a slow pan for the tattoos.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 25 avril 2011 - 05:01 .


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I actually agree, I thought this was going to be another rant about Shiala fans.

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bobobo878 wrote...

I actually agree, I thought this was going to be another rant about Shiala fans.

Eh, I like to find something fresh to rant about every now and then.

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I see you've taken our time together in the fields of battle to heart. I'm proud of you for getting this off your chest.

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The only thing I agree with this post is the idea of having proper suits for proper missions...all the other stuff is relative to gender,to taste,to prefference,etc...

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So, jakal, you support the demeaning and over sexualizing of female characters?

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No, I don't support it(and in previous posts I was just joking)nor I punish it...I believe that yes women have the right to find this a bit offensive or out of place,yes,it could be different without changing anything to the story and yes,in some cases(like high heel pumps in a military mission)rather annoying or confusing but...

I also know that this is what we have been seeing and consuming since a long time ago,in movies,commercials,magazines etc etc etc...
So it's not that I support it,it's that I don't pay attention to those things...I'm sorry but at least I'm honest with you...I was too concentrated with the story of the game to actually thinkl about this.

As a man I find miranda sexy as I found Liara sexy in ME1,I thought it gave the game a mature touch,did I find Jacobs package out of place...no...did I complain about it...no

So I respect your point of view but I just don't mind seeing some breasts or behinds...as I don't mind seeing shirtless men or crotch close ups even though i don't find them attractive

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omfg I agree 100% with OP. I could be considered a young'n I suppose, but god damn, I was so sick of Miranda's ass having more screen time then her face. I'm sorry, but ****s aren't beautiful. The new appearance DLC made her bearable to look at but I still can't use her. She's still got that incredibly ****ty look about her. UGH Bioware bring back full body armor and slap them on the females that are actually going to be in a combat situation. SERIOUSLY! A CAT SUIT WILL NOT PROTECT YOU AS MUCH AS HEAVY ARMOR! /rant

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jakal66 wrote...

No, I don't support it(and in previous posts I was just joking)nor I punish it...I believe that yes women have the right to find this a bit offensive or out of place,yes,it could be different without changing anything to the story and yes,in some cases(like high heel pumps in a military mission)rather annoying or confusing but...

I also know that this is what we have been seeing and consuming since a long time ago,in movies,commercials,magazines etc etc etc...
So it's not that I support it,it's that I don't pay attention to those things...I'm sorry but at least I'm honest with you...I was too concentrated with the story of the game to actually thinkl about this.

As a man I find miranda sexy as I found Liara sexy in ME1,I thought it gave the game a mature touch,did I find Jacobs package out of place...no...did I complain about it...no

So I respect your point of view but I just don't mind seeing some breasts or behinds...as I don't mind seeing shirtless men or crotch close ups even though i don't find them attractive

The problem is, if you don't pay attention, it'll get worse.

Really, all I'm asking for here is sensible combat gear and no more cheap T&A than there was in ME2, perhaps even just a touch less.  I'm not trying to suck the fun out of it for folks that like boobs, but I'd like to be able to enjoy the game.  Hard to do that when other people's butts are being shoved in my face.

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Wtf, didn't even realize it was you posting this thread admiralcheez, you change pics too often. XP

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Doesn't matter if it happens alot. It doesn't mean it's any less appropiate.

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A skin-tight blue outfit? I wonder where Bioware got the idea for Ashley's ME3 suit?
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AdmiralCheez wrote...

jakal66 wrote...

No, I don't support it(and in previous posts I was just joking)nor I punish it...I believe that yes women have the right to find this a bit offensive or out of place,yes,it could be different without changing anything to the story and yes,in some cases(like high heel pumps in a military mission)rather annoying or confusing but...

I also know that this is what we have been seeing and consuming since a long time ago,in movies,commercials,magazines etc etc etc...
So it's not that I support it,it's that I don't pay attention to those things...I'm sorry but at least I'm honest with you...I was too concentrated with the story of the game to actually thinkl about this.

As a man I find miranda sexy as I found Liara sexy in ME1,I thought it gave the game a mature touch,did I find Jacobs package out of place...no...did I complain about it...no

So I respect your point of view but I just don't mind seeing some breasts or behinds...as I don't mind seeing shirtless men or crotch close ups even though i don't find them attractive

The problem is, if you don't pay attention, it'll get worse.

Really, all I'm asking for here is sensible combat gear and no more cheap T&A than there was in ME2, perhaps even just a touch less.  I'm not trying to suck the fun out of it for folks that like boobs, but I'd like to be able to enjoy the game.  Hard to do that when other people's butts are being shoved in my face.



hahaha No problem...!!!I admit Miranda has more mutt screen time than Jacob's package...fortunately for me hahaha! :-P

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Seriously, Ash's eyes totally make me think she's got brain damage in that pic.

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bobobo878 wrote...

A skin-tight blue outfit? I wonder where Bioware got the idea for Ashley's ME3 suit?
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Oh wait....


Look at those half lidded sex eyes....  what did they do to you Ashley!

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bobobo878 wrote...

A skin-tight blue outfit? I wonder where Bioware got the idea for Ashley's ME3 suit?
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Hah, I was thinking that while playing the game earlier.

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Elite Midget wrote...

Doesn't matter if it happens alot. It doesn't mean it's any less appropiate.


I'm not saying I condone it...i'm just saying I personally don't find it annoying...if you do...well great!You're totally entitled to..and also entitled to complain or suggest as much as you want...but don't expect me to rally with you on something that i personally don't feel so sensitive...but for me it's not a gender thing..I don't mind when I see men's bodies being exploited...which they are..not as much as women's of course...

So do you want me so say it's wrong...?Yes it is.
Can it be treated differently in other games or possibly ME3? Yes it can
Am i gonna make a big deal out of it? No I won't


Do I mind or find it annoying that you are complaining or suggesting this? Not at all!
Everyones free to do what they want...just don't expect me to react as you do...
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Talking about the pic...I never found her to be sexy she always had that droopy look going on...great body though-

Modifié par jakal66, 25 avril 2011 - 05:48 .


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"Oh Shepard, your hetero-normative attitude laden with the machismo bull**** constantly spouted by the horny, often homophobic teenage boys who are playing you turns me on so much!"


That assessment is only slightly unfair.

On a less political note:

"Gunnery Chief Ashley Williams, reporting in, Commander. Got any ammo left in your assault rifle?" 

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

A skin-tight blue outfit? I wonder where Bioware got the idea for Ashley's ME3 suit?
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Look at those half lidded sex eyes....  what did they do to you Ashley!


Oh please, her eyes are no different than they were in ME1 and ME2.  Seriously, people are just looking for things to complain about now.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Kaedan94 wrote...

Yes, because everyone who appreciates sexy bodies is a horny teenage mouth-breather.  Guess all the actors out there and anyone with a sexy wife/husband is really just an immature kid.

Uh, no.  That's what the gaming industry thinks.  And that's why I'm pissed.

As for fitting the character, I mentioned that in the OP.  It's one of the reasons I didn't really b*tch until this point.

And as for Jack, the whole topless thing was more for shock value and less for sex appeal.  Like you said, it suits the character.  And the camera doesn't do much boobie-zooming on her.  There was one conversation where the camera went all HEY LOOK SIDEBOOB (which annoyed me), and then another where it did a slow pan for the tattoos.


Well, what exactly is causing you to b*tch then? 

Miranda was "designed to be perfect".  Kelly has a moderate bust and isn't all "sexed up".  Tali is very modestly designed.  Jack is... Jack.  The only one I can even kinda see an argument for using "sex sells" just for the sake of it is Samara. 

Ashley (in the ME3 pic) I just chalked up to the fact that she's not wearing her armor.  Instead she's got a bodysuit on that isn't flattening her up.

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Augoeides wrote...

"Gunnery Chief Ashley Williams, reporting in, Commander. Got any ammo left in your assault rifle?"

I actually said "oh hell yes" out loud to that.

I have achieved maximum derp for this evening.

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Kaedan94 wrote...

Well, what exactly is causing you to b*tch then? 

Miranda was "designed to be perfect".  Kelly has a moderate bust and isn't all "sexed up".  Tali is very modestly designed.  Jack is... Jack.  The only one I can even kinda see an argument for using "sex sells" just for the sake of it is Samara. 

Ashley (in the ME3 pic) I just chalked up to the fact that she's not wearing her armor.  Instead she's got a bodysuit on that isn't flattening her up.

I am b*tching because I do not want it to get worse.

Dig it?

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 25 avril 2011 - 06:07 .