AdmiralCheez wrote...
I actually said "oh hell yes" out loud to that.Augoeides wrote...
"Gunnery Chief Ashley Williams, reporting in, Commander. Got any ammo left in your assault rifle?"
I have achieved maximum derp for this evening.
Vena_86 wrote...
I found the body types, including the armor in ME1 perfect, because the female bodies looked great without turning them into some overexaggerated teenage fantasies. When female characters start looking like in Dragon Age 2 I find them LESS attractive because it becomes so obvious that they are fake and created to make young males horny in the most primitive way.
In both of BioWares latest franchises female characters have gained a significant ammount of breast mass over time, even for the same characters! (Ashley, Liara)
I totally agree with the op and hope that BioWare stops going down that path.
We gamers are not that primitive!
AdmiralCheez wrote...
I am b*tching because I do not want it to get worse.
Dig it?
Vena_86 wrote...
I found the body types, including the armor in ME1 perfect, because the
female bodies looked great without turning them into some
overexaggerated teenage fantasies.
Assuming? No. However, I wouldn't put it past them.Kaedan94 wrote...
And so because you saw a picture of Ashley with breasts that appear slightly bigger than they do in her body armor, you assumed that they're going to oversex the next game?
Actually, they had a lot more body fat than the current "ideal." The point is that the proportions were fairly realistic. They weren't Barbie dolls.I love how you are pretty much only referring to breasts here and ignore the fact that they all have essentially perfect low % bodyfat bodies.
Are you aware that America only includes 5% of the world's population?Are you aware that the average breast size in America is 36C?
Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 25 avril 2011 - 06:37 .
It was on the list of possible thread titles, but I stuck to the short one.meiwow2 wrote...
This thread should be renamed to "Pardon the stick in my butt"...
AdmiralCheez wrote...
Assuming? No. However, I wouldn't put it past them.
Actually, they had a lot more body fat than the current "ideal." The point is that the proportions were fairly realistic. They weren't Barbie dolls.
Are you aware that the average breast size in America is 36C?
Are you aware that America only includes 5% of the world's population?
Modifié par Kaedan94, 25 avril 2011 - 06:43 .
I think there is something about that in the codex, supposedly there are no fat people in Mass Effect is because of genetic engineering or something. They were just saving face with that one though, the real reason there are so few fat people in video games is that they are more difficult to animate than skinny people.Kaedan94 wrote...
I love how you are pretty much only referring to breasts here and ignore the fact that they all have essentially perfect low % bodyfat bodies.
Modifié par bobobo878, 25 avril 2011 - 06:45 .
Kaedan94 wrote...
AdmiralCheez wrote...
Assuming? No. However, I wouldn't put it past them.
Which is assuming... you wouldn't have made the thread otherwise.
So I'm not allowed to express my concern over the possibility of something happening? I'd say it does more good than whining after the fact, you know? Ounce of prevention and all that.Kaedan94 wrote...
Which is assuming... you wouldn't have made the thread otherwise.
Super-skinny arms, pinched waist, exaggerated butt and boobage, wears heels everywhere?They weren't barbie dolls in ME2 either... And everyone, including Miranda, have fairly accurate proportions.
Are you aware that it is emphasized in the ME universe that most folks have mixed ethnicities in the future thanks to a more globalized economy and culture?Are you aware ME games are developed in North America?
skan5 wrote...
It's better to express these concerns
before something is released than ask for something like this to change
after the product is finished.
Or are you one of those "lol it's a beta/demo/prebuild! Release will be different!" people too?
Modifié par Kaedan94, 25 avril 2011 - 06:51 .
I think there is something in the codex about how only rich countries can afford to send people into space. Who's to say that in the year 2185 the other space fairing nations won't have as much access to cosmetic surgeons as americans?AdmiralCheez wrote...
Are you aware that it is emphasized in the ME universe that most folks have mixed ethnicities in the future thanks to a more globalized economy and culture?Are you aware ME games are developed in North America?
Kaedan94 wrote...
No... I just think he's overreacting to a single picture.
He claims he doesn't mind if it makes sense for the character. The "sexuality" of all characters make sense for them (except maybe Samara). And because Ashley seems to have a bigger bust than she does with her armor on, he makes it seem like Bioware is making this a porn game or something.
bobobo878 wrote...
I think there is something in the codex about how only rich countries can afford to send people into space. Who's to say that in the year 2185 the other space fairing nations won't have as much access to cosmetic surgeons as americans?
Modifié par skan5, 25 avril 2011 - 06:55 .
skan5 wrote...
Kaedan94 wrote...
No... I just think he's overreacting to a single picture.
He claims he doesn't mind if it makes sense for the character. The "sexuality" of all characters make sense for them (except maybe Samara). And because Ashley seems to have a bigger bust than she does with her armor on, he makes it seem like Bioware is making this a porn game or something.
While she comes off a bit rantish in this thread, you can't really blame her for her concern.
I'm sorry you seem to be suffering from acute "vaginytis" grow a pair and tell your undoubtedly fat wife that no, this time you want to be the man during sex!!!AdmiralCheez wrote...
... but I need to get this out of my system.
The one thing that annoys me most is that game developers often assume the only people that play their games are young, horny males who have never had a girlfriend and probably will never get one. Female characters, if present at all, are frequently given over-exaggerated "hot" bodies jammed into revealing and too-tight outfits.
Bioware is no exception, but to their credit they often made a joke out of it to mock their cheap pandering to a seventeen-year-old's erection and backed off on the whole boobies thing when it wasn't appropriate. For example, take ME1: it had an entire race of sexy babes, but Bioware was able to get away with this because they poked fun at the trope and also gave the asari an interesting culture and deep characters. There was only one case of extreme cleavage (MatriarchBoobneziaBenezia), and none of the female leads were overtly sexualized (FemShep and Ashley especially were pretty plain in their body-types and never wore anything incredibly revealing apart from certain types of armor that had a tendency to ride up the crack). So I let them get away with it.
And then came ME2. Suddenly, boobs, boobs everywhere (plus a few manly bits this go-round: check out Jacob and Thane. Specifically, check out Jacob's butt, which really is as bad as Miranda's save for it got less screen time). Now, I didn't complain too much because for the most part it fit the characters and again they mocked themselves for doing it (Miranda's buttshots and her encounter with a certain Eclipse commando). It only really got stupid when people started running around with naught but a breather mask, and at the very least all the characters were interesting enough as people that I was able to look past the cleavage. However, Tali's reduction into a "shrinking violet" type of character set off alarm bells in my head, and the presentation of all female characters in Genesis (the PS3 comic) would have made me punch Casey Hudson in the teeth had I not been able to transfer my blame to the Dark Horse team, who tend to kind of suck anyway. At least they didn't try to sex up FemShep apart from some really agressive flirting which I usually avoided or skipped over anyway. So again, Bioware got a pass. A very shaky pass, but at least it wasn't Soul Calibur or Dead or Alive.
But now, looking at the new information trickling in about ME3, I am beginning to suspect things are going to get worse (perhaps better for those of you who play alone and with one hand). I know we know next to nothing about ME3, but Ashley's new look (sans bun, bigger ******, and a tight body suit) plus their comment about Jack being softened and matured raised a few red flags. The PS3M article, which I shouldn't pay attention to because it was written by a bunch of very randy morons who didn't bother to do their homework, only made matters worse by reminding everyone how hot and sexy all the female characters are.
Listen, fellas: Jack and Ashley were cool because they didn't conform to the role of typical female lead. Now, I'm hopeful these two characters will retain their unique (albeit somewhat abrasive) personalities, but after Tali... I really don't know.
Yeah, I know I'm complaining too much. But honestly, one of the reasons I enjoy the Mass Effect series is that I can play it without feeling like the developers think I'm some sort of half-wit mouth-breather. I mean, seriously Bioware, you don't have to objectify your characters when your fans do it for you. Put what you do best--your characters--first, and save the energy wasted on over-abundant sex appeal for something more important.
And yeah, I know I probably shouldn't be worrying. I'm sure ME3 will be an awesome game, but nonetheless, consider me mildly concerned.
EDIT: Fixed a typo. Seriously, "Asley?" Boy oh boy, I don't even...
ninja'd by skanskan5 wrote...
Kaedan94 wrote...
No... I just think he's overreacting to a single picture.
He claims he doesn't mind if it makes sense for the character. The "sexuality" of all characters make sense for them (except maybe Samara). And because Ashley seems to have a bigger bust than she does with her armor on, he makes it seem like Bioware is making this a porn game or something.
While she comes off a bit rantish in this thread, you can't really blame her for her concern.
oh, that's right, admiralcheez must be lying, there are no girls on the internet.Crimson_D-bag wrote...
I'm sorry you seem to be suffering from acute "vaginytis" grow a pair and tell your undoubtedly fat wife that no, this time you want to be the man during sex!!!
Modifié par bobobo878, 25 avril 2011 - 07:00 .
Kaedan94 wrote...
Admiralcheez is a she?
bobobo878 wrote...
oh, that's right, admiralcheez must be lying, there are no girls on the internet. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]Crimson_D-bag wrote...
I'm sorry you seem to be suffering from acute "vaginytis" grow a pair and tell your undoubtedly fat wife that no, this time you want to be the man during sex!!!
Modifié par skan5, 25 avril 2011 - 06:59 .
I acknowledged that one picture is a bit much to judge the situation by in the OP. You people only read every other line these days or what?Kaedan94 wrote...
No... I just think he's overreacting to a single picture.
He claims he doesn't mind if it makes sense for the character. The "sexuality" of all characters make sense for them (except maybe Samara). And because Ashley seems to have a bigger bust than she does with her armor on, he makes it seem like Bioware is making this a porn game or something.
These glorious ******, good sir, shall never be yours.Crimson_D-bag wrote...
I'm sorry you seem to be suffering from acute "vaginytis" grow a pair and tell your undoubtedly fat wife that no, this time you want to be the man during sex!!!
Crimson_D-bag wrote...
I'm sorry you seem to be suffering from acute "vaginytis" grow a pair and tell your undoubtedly fat wife that no, this time you want to be the man during sex!!!
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