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[BlackEssence]

Almostfaceman wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
He has one?

Best check yourself before you wreck yourself.

I don't get the hate for Jacob.  Like, at all.  He's a normal guy who's focused on doing his best to beat the "bad guys".  I've always been friends with him in every playthrough.

To be honest, I don't get the hate for him myself. I'm getting ready to tread in dark waters because of what I am about to say. So, here goes (And I know people are gonna shy away from this statement.): I like Jacob because of the stereotype his character kills off: The one thuggish black guy that's also the comic relief with his redundant usage of ebonics.

Some of you may not be able to comprehend how proud this made me. Very, very proud.

Jacob is a strong, young, black man. He's intelligent, like another pointed out, he is stable in his mind, he does his duty and he stands his ground. Now, granted, he does attack my baby, Thane, because of his profession before getting to know the man, which I didn't appreciate at all, but he did not let that form into something as worse as predjudice like Ashely Williams did. If anything, he handled everything with precaution and when that person proved themselves, he let loose a little bit and became laid back with his squadmates.

When you truly become his friend, Jacob is probably one of the coolest guys you ever wanna know and I love that about him.

Modifié par BlackEssence, 22 avril 2011 - 08:15 .

[Urdnot Orrad]

BlackEssence wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
He has one?

Best check yourself before you wreck yourself.

I don't get the hate for Jacob.  Like, at all.  He's a normal guy who's focused on doing his best to beat the "bad guys".  I've always been friends with him in every playthrough.

To be honest, I don't get the hate for him myself. I'm getting ready to tread in dark waters because of what I am about to say. So, here goes (And I know people are gonna shy away from this question.): I like Jacob because of the stereotype his character kills off: The one thuggish black guy that's also the comic relief with his redundant usage of ebonics.

Some of you may not be able to comprehend how proud this made me. Very, very proud.

Jacob is a strong, young, black man. He's intelligent, like another pointed out, he is stable in his mind, he does his duty and he stands his ground. Now, granted, he does attack my baby, Thane, because of his profession before getting to know the man, which I didn't appreciate at all, but he did not let that form into something as worse as predjudice like Ashely Williams did. If anything, he handled everything with precaution and when that person proved themselves, he let loose a little bit and because laid back with his squadmates.

When you truly become his friend, Jacob is probably one of the coolest guys you ever wanna know and I love that about him.

Agreed. So many of the black guys in my high school try to adhere to that "gangsta-thug" style that is commonplace nowadays... it's pathetic. I was actually glad Jacob just seemed like a normal guy... albeit one with the potential to kill you with his mind. Now if only I could get him to use an AR, he'd be one of my permanent squaddies... 

[Warlocomotf]

Its not that I hate Jacob, I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy. But... He is just not at all interesting.

Things I didn't like about Jacob;
- His welcome to Thane
- "Don't forget to introduce yourself to the ship's AI"
- His behaviour during his loyalty mission
- His open *and* closed personality

[AdmiralCheez]

Turran wrote...

I kinda took offence to your post.. As you are basically saying anyone who isn't over the age of 20 likes to look at the female characters and use their hands. I agree that there was too much shown in this game, way too much to be honest as the armor became really unbelievable and inpractical.
But pinning it all down to a certain age group isn't really fair, especially when you group them together, it does just seem a bit harsh and bit unfair.. :/

That's not what I think at all.  I was really pointing the finger at the developers, who tend to think that of their audience.  I don't blame seventeen-year-olds, not do I think they're all horny bastards.  Hell, I don't even have a problem with people who like the blatant sex appeal.

My problem here is that the devs are assuming the wrong things about their fanbase.  It's like they think I'm stupid and enjoy having butts shoved in my face.  Maybe I'm the acception to the rule, but I like to think I'm not the only one moderately annoyed with how the game sometimes seems to be all, "HEY YOU LIKE BOOBIES RIGHT?!"

"Yes, I like boobies.  Can we move on?"

"NO WE'RE NOT DONE LOOKING AT BOOBIES YET."

"God damn it, Bioware."

The "playing with one hand" thing was more of a joke.  I didn't mean to offend. :c

[BlackEssence]

Urdnot Orrad wrote...

BlackEssence wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
He has one?

Best check yourself before you wreck yourself.

I don't get the hate for Jacob.  Like, at all.  He's a normal guy who's focused on doing his best to beat the "bad guys".  I've always been friends with him in every playthrough.

To be honest, I don't get the hate for him myself. I'm getting ready to tread in dark waters because of what I am about to say. So, here goes (And I know people are gonna shy away from this question.): I like Jacob because of the stereotype his character kills off: The one thuggish black guy that's also the comic relief with his redundant usage of ebonics.

Some of you may not be able to comprehend how proud this made me. Very, very proud.

Jacob is a strong, young, black man. He's intelligent, like another pointed out, he is stable in his mind, he does his duty and he stands his ground. Now, granted, he does attack my baby, Thane, because of his profession before getting to know the man, which I didn't appreciate at all, but he did not let that form into something as worse as predjudice like Ashely Williams did. If anything, he handled everything with precaution and when that person proved themselves, he let loose a little bit and because laid back with his squadmates.

When you truly become his friend, Jacob is probably one of the coolest guys you ever wanna know and I love that about him.

Agreed. So many of the black guys in my high school try to adhere to that "gangsta-thug" style that is commonplace nowadays... it's pathetic. I was actually glad Jacob just seemed like a normal guy... albeit one with the potential to kill you with his mind. Now if only I could get him to use an AR, he'd be one of my permanent squaddies... 

@Urdnot Orrad: Now, you are preaching to choir on that! Lord knows, you are.

[BlackEssence]

Warlocomotf wrote...

Its not that I hate Jacob, I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy. But... He is just not at all interesting.

Things I didn't like about Jacob;
- His welcome to Thane
- "Don't forget to introduce yourself to the ship's AI"
- His behaviour during his loyalty mission
- His open *and* closed personality

You know, this sounds like another person I know....starts with a "K" and rhymes with "Raidan".

[Legbiter]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

So I've surpassed Zulu in awfulness?

*high fives self*

Hey now, you're pretty bad, no doubt about it. But the absolute incarnation of Pedantic Evil that is Zulu, no, not at all.

[AdmiralCheez]

You know, I really don't think Jacob's all that hated... Ignored or poked fun at for a few of his more memetastic turns of phrase, but hated? Seems a bit extreme.

[Legbiter]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The "playing with one hand" thing was more of a joke.  I didn't mean to offend. :c

This is a slur against amputee gamers isn't it?


Just because someone isn't fully-limbed dosen't mean you get to hold yourself above them.

Modifié par Legbiter, 22 avril 2011 - 08:31 .

[Urdnot Orrad]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

You know, I really don't think Jacob's all that hated... Ignored or poked fun at for a few of his more memetastic turns of phrase, but hated? Seems a bit extreme.

Memetastic? Is that teh priiiize?

(Sorry, had to... I just HAD to.)

[Silmane]

Legbiter wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

So I've surpassed Zulu in awfulness?

*high fives self*

Hey now, you're pretty bad, no doubt about it. But the absolute incarnation of Pedantic Evil that is Zulu, no, not at all.

Zulu is amazing.

Keeps the boards fresh.

[Warlocomotf]

Silmane wrote...

Legbiter wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

So I've surpassed Zulu in awfulness?

*high fives self*

Hey now, you're pretty bad, no doubt about it. But the absolute incarnation of Pedantic Evil that is Zulu, no, not at all.

Zulu is amazing.

Keeps the boards fresh.

He keeps migraines fresh

Modifié par Warlocomotf, 22 avril 2011 - 08:36 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Almostfaceman wrote...


I don't get the hate for Jacob.  Like, at all.  He's a normal guy who's focused on doing his best to beat the "bad guys".  I've always been friends with him in every playthrough.

You know why people dislike Jacob?

Because he is a boring (and sometimes rude) person with abseloutly nothing about him.

[Tripedius]

Jack is a great character and totally believable. If she didn't swear she wouldnt have been and I would have thought it was done for it to be a kids game. Honestly don't see why people tend to get annoyed with curby women, like Miranda. It's totally the real world where beautifull women and men have an edge on less fortunate people. In China it's even required for the most simple job to be beautifull.
Plus Miranda is believable cause she was created to be perfect. If your image of perfection would be a woman like Ruben's used to paint (aka big women), she would probably look like that. Jack same deal, bred for perfection and a total sociopath. Ofc she swears. I like my games realistic (as in human nature realistic) and swearing and the advantage of beautifull people is all around us.

[HunterX6]

I prefer some sexiness in the game thanks. unless your gay or you are a female who is jelous of the characters in a GAME then you will want the females to look ugly and or manly.

Modifié par HunterX6, 22 avril 2011 - 08:42 .

[Nashiktal]

Anger? Why? It sounds like they are brainstorming ways to make female turians look female, while avoiding breasts and lipstick.

[LPPrince]

BlackEssence wrote...

Warlocomotf wrote...

Its not that I hate Jacob, I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy. But... He is just not at all interesting.

Things I didn't like about Jacob;
- His welcome to Thane
- "Don't forget to introduce yourself to the ship's AI"
- His behaviour during his loyalty mission
- His open *and* closed personality

You know, this sounds like another person I know....starts with a "K" and rhymes with "Raidan".

LOLWUT

Kaidan wasn't a douche to Thane
Kaidan wasn't a douche to Tali
Kaidan didn't even have a loyalty mission
and Kaidan didn't have an open/closed personality.

You know, Kaidan bored me the most out of the squaddies in ME1. It took many playthroughs and a few years before I respected him and realized that while he's not the most interesting person around, he's still a character and isn't a brick fricking wall.

But Jacob? Jacob is NOTHING.

"Hurr durr, mah name is Jacob. Commander." /summary of all his conversations

Kaidan had Rana. Kaidan had BAAT. Kaidan had Vyrnnus. He had a personality that could be altered. He questioned some of Shepard's actions. He dealt with struggles every day.

Jacob has.....what? Daddy issues? He barely even had daddy issues. He's just.....there.

I'm friendly with him, but if I could go back to Virmire and sacrifice Jacob in his place so that both Ash and Kaidan made it out alive, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Jacob is a door. And behind it is the priiize, apparently.

[snowman20x]

sex appeal doesn't just exists in video games, its apart of our culture. should probably get used to this. i can't say i "play with one hand" as you stereotyped, but i would also much rather look at miranda in me2 then ashley in me1.

oh, i do agree with you on the breather mask thing by the way. all the ****ty dressed characters should have had some sort of enviro suit, or maybe a visible biotic barrier to protect them from the elements.. something would have been nice.

[Raanz]

I blame chainmail bikinis and Red Sonja.
This has been around a long time, not only in games but in movies, advertising and culture in general.

Doesn't bother me a bit.

[DxWill10]

Having the women be attractive is a bad thing? Personally I'm looking forward to ashley's new look. Instead of a silly bun making her look dude-ish, now she'll actually be presented as the attractive female that she is.

Honestly I thought ME1 was more of a teenage boy-ish game regarding romances considering the romance scenes were much more risque than those of ME2

[LPPrince]

mrsph wrote...

Kaidan was kind of just there too.

Truth. I felt that way probably from 2007 all the way to 2010 before I was like, "Wait. No, this guy's pretty cool, actually."

Even if he IS just there, he's still infinitely more complex than Jacob "Kanye West" Taylor telling his lover that his previous lover is "too good for him" and referring to a "priiize" of some sort.

God I want to punch him in the jaw.