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[Elmasmister]

beautiful words, but everything would be easier if only you could buy a One lithograph by IP address. If I were Bioware not bear to see how others do business on e-bay, when I could do it and I do not.

[TahoeMax]

If people wanna flip/scalp/whatever, they'll find a way. They always find a way. Captchas for Ticketmaster and similar sites? Fail. One-per-IP limit? I'd venture to say that most people on these forums have access to multiple computers/people to buy for them...so that wouldn't hold them back much.

Honestly, though, while I'm sure there are gonna be some Ebay sales, I doubt it'll be the majority at all. Out of the 250 sold, there are 2 on Ebay. That's less than 1%. Yeah, more will eventually go up as they start shipping, but I think most of the devotees following these boards closely enough to catch these sales are genuine fans.

[killbot92]

Very annoyed with the release. Although I had been checking back every so often we were told that this would go on sale last week of April and that there would be a warning before hand. Almost no warning and it went on sale a week earlier = lame. It seems that those that think it was fair are ones who just happened to see the news and got one. I wonder how they would feel if they missed out.

[havoc373]

seriously they make an anouncement about a sale to get rid of the remaining stock of the old litho's to "make room for this new one" and when we finally get the chance to buy the cerberus litho it just pops up randomly without warning what so ever. seriously you guys were doing fine the last few times you released litho's, whats with this ready, fire, aim BS? 1 week prior notice would be enoegh. a simple little mention on the facebook page or in your own forums anouncement section... its not that difficult guys.

does anyone know if there's going to be another run?

[Sabet]

Yes, there will be an other run at the end of the month. This was just a pre-sale. They still have 250 lithos left.

[Captain Crash]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Thank you.  We were given the notice that it would ship the last week of April.  Do we have to check every single day irregardless of when they tell us?  How would giving us any sort of forewarning the day before hurt anything?  It's still going to sell a set amount.  Did someone forget to give anyone any sort of notice or did they just not care?  Great and now half the stock is gone which is going to create a damn frenzy for the last half.  This pisses me off immensely.

Agreed, the last communications from Ms Domino were this:

"I promise that I will post the release date as soon as I have something concrete to post. As of right now, I would plan for the last week in April...SOON - (but not soon enough, I know, I know...)"


Not everyone is on the forums all the time and in my case, I was asleep!!! Selling half the stock during the hours when I had no hope of getting anything isnt fair on the global community.   This has been really harsh on people from Europe and other countries.  Secondly its not even the last week in April yet!   We were told an announcement for this week coming. Many wernt prepared for this and its upsetting that communications and reassurances we were given wernt adhered to.

[f1r3storm]

I'm also not amused. <_<

[darth shango]

I too was caught off guard by the sale, despite checking the site several times a day since the announcement of the Cerberus lithograph. I was lucky enough to get one and only one. I made it a point not to take advantage of the situation. It sucks that the true collectors that missed the sale are at the mercy of the opportunist. There are currently three listed on ebay at over 200 bucks each!  I don't think treehouse had a responsibility to announce the sale, they can run their business however they want, but not doing so was a disservice to real collectors.

[antique_nova]

Treehouse. you have been immensely disappointing. I think i trust the UK government and politicians more than the employees at treehouse at the moment..

[TheMasterCow11]

i also missed it and i was checking two times a day since i saw the advertisement "coming soon". I check it around 5pm and it's sold out. so WTF...either give subscribers a email notice or make the run 2000 prints not 500.

[______]

Well. I was lucky enough to catch one of these before they sold out in the preorder. I'm glad to see that they are offering more later after the presale too, for those that missed this first go.

I'm also one of those people that missed the previous lithographs, both releases. I've since acquired the ones I like the most (Legion & Tali) through ebay. I don't think any of us have a right to be angry with what people do with their property. If people want to sell what they had the luck and money to acquire, they have the right. If they want to do it for prices you can't afford/won't pay, well, patience.. either you'll save more money, lose your desire, or they'll get cheaper. Something will happen to make it all work out, it's just about patience.

As previously said by many; there's no reason bioware or treehouse should give us any forewarning about releases. I can think of many products that do not, many things I've gone out to buy that just, one day, appeared on a shelf. In fact, i now make fridays and tuesday ritual shopping days at stores who carry things I like, since they're the most common release dates; if something should popup unannounced, I'll be there for it. I like many things, I can't keep track of all their releases though, some are untrackable until they happen!

So, I paid an embarrassing amount of money for my lithographs (Especially Tali), I wanted them badly enough to do it though. It was fair, all around, and I can't argue with it, even if my wallet is shedding a few tears of pain.

And while I hope that bioware and treehouse alike take the complaints with a grain of salt, I also admit, that I wouldn't blame them for going back to no hints, no warnings, no presales; just unannounced sales completely. We're being given an olive branch of compromise with what Ms Domino extended to us before, with the partial presale, lets hope they continue with that much again. Just check the store when you can (That's how I lucked out.!).

[djarlaks10]

I bet a lot of people wouldn't have blamed Treehouse for not announcing the release date if they had previosuly stated that 250 lithos would go on sale completely unnanounced. But we were promised that we will be told the release date in advance. They don't have to announce the time, but when you promise something to your customer base, you should live up to that promise I suppose. For example, during the release of the additional Tali lithos only a date was announced and THBS's employee said the exact time won't be announced, and, seeing that I wanted that litho badly, I had no problems sitting in front of my computer for like 5 hours. But when we are promised to know the release date, most people don't check the forums 24/7.

Modifié par djarlaks10, 25 avril 2011 - 11:30 .

[antique_nova]

djarlaks10 wrote...

I bet a lot of people wouldn't have blamed Treehouse for not announcing the release date if they had previosuly stated that 250 lithos would go on sale completely unnanounced. But we were promised that we will be told the release date in advance. They don't have to announce the time, but when you promise something to your customer base, you should live up to that promise I suppose. For example, during the release of the additional Tali lithos only a date was announced and THBS's employee said the exact time won't be announced, and, seeing that I wanted that litho badly, I had no problems sitting in front of my computer for like 5 hours. But when we are promised to know the release date, most people don't check the forums 24/7.

baah hum bug. I did that for the Tali final litho release a month ago, wait for 5 hours, and my card or my bank blocked me....

The problem here is that the staff promised a release date! Not a release time.

Quoted from Ms Domino.

I promise that I will post the release date as soon as I have something
concrete to post. As of right now, I would plan for the last week in
April...SOON - (but not soon enough, I know, I know...)

The fact that we were given this info five minutes after the pre-release didn't many of us. We were never given a date.

Treehouse must have also planned this unexpected list and they failed to live to there promise. Spectacularly.

The fact that this was obviously a planned suprise release, means that Ms Domino could have easily given us the info much earlier - either due to breaking a promise or just being informed last minute.

Either way, many of us aren't happy at this approach. Whether we bought the lithos or not.

I haven't seen Treehouse break a promise before, so why should i have not believed this promise?

Modifié par antique_nova, 25 avril 2011 - 11:41 .

[djarlaks10]

antique_nova wrote...

baah hum bug. I did that for the Tali final litho release a month ago, wait for 5 hours, and my card or my bank blocked me....

Yeah, I remember that day, Red 4. I still feel sorry for you, you know.

[moddit]

I just like the art for what it is. I mean, I understand their decision to make them "limited runs", but why not mass produce them like the mini-lithos with no number or signature? That'd make me and many others happy. The mini-lithos are great but the larger the print the better the LOD and there is no way I'd overpay some punk for an extra print they bought and sold for 5x the original price.

[antique_nova]

moddit wrote...

I just like the art for what it is. I mean, I understand their decision to make them "limited runs", but why not mass produce them like the mini-lithos with no number or signature? That'd make me and many others happy. The mini-lithos are great but the larger the print the better the LOD and there is no way I'd overpay some punk for an extra print they bought and sold for 5x the original price.

I got pawned for being a troll last time i said that - it didn't help since i was viewing this side of the argument and something else that was against this i think.

The main argument i see against this is that would be more easily forged and having limited runs makes them more valuable to the collector as anything limited enhances it's sentimental value.

[Elmasmister]

antique_nova wrote...

moddit wrote...

I just like the art for what it is. I mean, I understand their decision to make them "limited runs", but why not mass produce them like the mini-lithos with no number or signature? That'd make me and many others happy. The mini-lithos are great but the larger the print the better the LOD and there is no way I'd overpay some punk for an extra print they bought and sold for 5x the original price.

I got pawned for being a troll last time i said that - it didn't help since i was viewing this side of the argument and something else that was against this i think.

The main argument i see against this is that would be more easily forged and having limited runs makes them more valuable to the collector as anything limited enhances it's sentimental value.

Tell that to those who remain without lithography, to see that sentimental value given. demand so many more should take them or not to be limited.

[Thargorichiban]

moddit wrote...

I just like the art for what it is. I mean, I understand their decision to make them "limited runs", but why not mass produce them like the mini-lithos with no number or signature? That'd make me and many others happy. The mini-lithos are great but the larger the print the better the LOD and there is no way I'd overpay some punk for an extra print they bought and sold for 5x the original price.

If a print is popular it'll be quite likely that they'll do a mini-litho of it. If you like the art for what it is you can see it online without having to pay for it.

[antique_nova]

Elmasmister wrote...

antique_nova wrote...

moddit wrote...

I just like the art for what it is. I mean, I understand their decision to make them "limited runs", but why not mass produce them like the mini-lithos with no number or signature? That'd make me and many others happy. The mini-lithos are great but the larger the print the better the LOD and there is no way I'd overpay some punk for an extra print they bought and sold for 5x the original price.

I got pawned for being a troll last time i said that - it didn't help since i was viewing this side of the argument and something else that was against this i think.

The main argument i see against this is that would be more easily forged and having limited runs makes them more valuable to the collector as anything limited enhances it's sentimental value.

Tell that to those who remain without lithography, to see that sentimental value given. demand so many more should take them or not to be limited.

The forged argument still stands -  As much as i hate to argue against you.

[MSparkyPants]

Oh fooey, I was out and about at the time of the pre-sale and now I'm completely zoning out on painkillers. Will probably end up missing out of this litho all together, despite having refreshed the store page every couple hours for the past couple weeks. Darn wisdom teeth X(

[moddit]

Thargorichiban wrote...

moddit wrote...

I just like the art for what it is. I mean, I understand their decision to make them "limited runs", but why not mass produce them like the mini-lithos with no number or signature? That'd make me and many others happy. The mini-lithos are great but the larger the print the better the LOD and there is no way I'd overpay some punk for an extra print they bought and sold for 5x the original price.

If a print is popular it'll be quite likely that they'll do a mini-litho of it. If you like the art for what it is you can see it online without having to pay for it.

You missed my excerpt about the level of detail, which is what I like about the art. A mini litho won't have the same amount of detail compared to a print twice the size.

antique_nova wrote...

The forged argument still stands -  As much as i hate to argue against you.

And if there are forgeries (which there would be), couldn't Bioware just release a statement that they cannot guarentee the validity of other lithos NOT sold from the Bioware store and just make them exclusively available from their store like they've been doing? 

Modifié par moddit, 26 avril 2011 - 01:53 .

[TheMasterCow11]

i think im going to have to buy as many as i can with different accounts so i can sell it on ebay to buy old lithos that were sold out due to staff errors.

once again you make customers like me turn into to ebay scalps just to buy stuff i missed....

Modifié par TheMasterCow11, 26 avril 2011 - 01:52 .

[cheesetogo]

I guess when Ms. Domino said "250 left" and "Release date will be announced in advance for sure," most of you just interpreted that as "They're all gone!" and "We don't care about you."

Obviously the decision to release them without prior notice has been unpopular with a lot of people, but it's not like they're leaving you out in the cold. It seems pretty clear that they've taken this into account and won't be doing the same thing with the next batch.

I'm sure you'll get one if you keep checking for the announcement.

[Zocoyotzin]

I am not exactly happy with the surprise release either. I usually check the forums and the store daily for news of new lithos and such, but on that particular day I had a doctor appointment that involved injections into both of my feet. I wasn't exactly feeling my best and passed out the moment I made it back home. I understand that you can't please everyone, but I fail to see how random releases with no warning is fair to anyone.

If you are going to randomly release it, why not at least say to check the store every day? Sure it would not be a convenient method but at least everyone has a fair chance at that point.

Regardless, I feel that the previous method of release schedules was a better option than just throwing it out in the open without prior warning.

[AlphaJarmel]

cheesetogo wrote...

I guess when Ms. Domino said "250 left" and "Release date will be announced in advance for sure," most of you just interpreted that as "They're all gone!" and "We don't care about you."

Obviously the decision to release them without prior notice has been unpopular with a lot of people, but it's not like they're leaving you out in the cold. It seems pretty clear that they've taken this into account and won't be doing the same thing with the next batch.

I'm sure you'll get one if you keep checking for the announcement.

That 250 is probably going to go very fast now.  Half of the stock is gone now and scalpers are going to be on the lookout.  So it just made things alot harder for everybody involved.