GodWood wrote...
when a female character is in battle she shouldn't be trying to flaunt her goods or be sexualized in any way, she should simply be dressed appropriately for battle.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Modifié par naughty99, 08 mai 2011 - 08:37 .
Modifié par Damariel, 08 mai 2011 - 08:53 .
What she wewars is not a breastplate.Addai67 wrote...
Well not to make too much of it (as we already have I suppose), but a soldier who leaves her neck and chest exposed- that's more than a character quirk. It's dumb. They don't call it a breastplate for nothing. So if we are supposed to respect her for her prowess, the plate brassiere works against it. I would rather think it's just fanservice than that a warrior female has some rationale to do something so silly.
initially covered the lower half of the front torso. It was a plate
reinforcement that composed the bottom part of the front of a medieval breastplate.[2] They were predominantly worn in the 15th century. Sometimes they were worn with a metal finish, while the top part of the cuirass was covered in material (often velvet), the difference in finish making a contrast.
GodWood wrote...
And I can't understand why some people fail so much at trying to understand something so simple.slimgrin wrote...
Why some gamers want to see representations of women stripped of their sexuality is beyond me. I'll never understand. Dress them in cardboard boxes I guess. Maybe that's equality.
If a female character works in a brothel I fully expect them to be dressed in a sexualized manner.
If a female character is shown in a sex scene I fully expect nudity.
But when a female character is in battle she shouldn't be trying to flaunt her goods or be sexualized in any way, she should simply be dressed appropriately for battle.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Modifié par Shiroukai, 08 mai 2011 - 09:53 .
And when a woman is outside battle I would expect her to be relaxed and untie part of her armor so she can breathe freely. Is this so hard to understand? Or she should probably wear a helmet ALL THE TIME, just in case. Your suggestion makes her LESS realistic. She isn't there to fight, so it is normal that she doesn't wear the full armor. Have you seen her in battle? No? Then what are you complaining about.GodWood wrote...
If a female character works in a brothel I fully expect them to be dressed in a sexualized manner.
If a female character is shown in a sex scene I fully expect nudity.
But when a female character is in battle she shouldn't be trying to flaunt her goods or be sexualized in any way, she should simply be dressed appropriately for battle.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Modifié par Edk, 08 mai 2011 - 09:55 .
Modifié par lobi, 08 mai 2011 - 10:09 .
Modifié par Shirosaki17, 08 mai 2011 - 10:05 .
Modifié par gastovski, 08 mai 2011 - 11:31 .
Carfax wrote...
As someone who is a non feminist, even I can see they have a point. There is no doubt that Saskia (as well as the other women) has been overtly sexualized to a degree.
However, as I've been saying all a long, this is simply a consequence of men preferring to look at depictions of attractive females vs realistic ones.
We see this all the time in fantasy, and really, it's no big deal.......unless you're a feminist.
Modifié par Seagloom, 08 mai 2011 - 11:28 .
And I absolutely despise those designs.Edk wrote...
Let's take a look at other character designs, this time by bioware. Isabella is the most obvious example, but Miranda is even worse. She is wearing a helmet that covers only a small part of her face, and that is IN SPACE, DURING battle. And the high heels, of course. Very convenient during battle, freezing in space and/or breaking a leg. Really, bioware has some of the least realistic female character designs.
That's not the same one. This is one of the unused versions (meaning you won't see this song ingame)gastovski wrote...
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Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 08 mai 2011 - 01:50 .
Gotholhorakh wrote...
OK, first point: I'm not feminist but I found the cards and other crap in TW1 puerile and off-putting. If they are gone, GOOD.
Second point: Widespread participation of women in physical combat to the death against men, and them being successful at it a lot, is not made more or less realistic by those women wearing armour, bikinis or banana suits.
In real life, that would be impossible except for a tiny tiny fraction of a percent of very lucky or very unusual women in the world, but it's not real life, it's a fantasy world.
When female characters are wandering around beating male ones up a lot, address the fact can even do that at all before the clothes they do it in, if you want "realism".
Then again if you want realism in a fantasy world frankly WTH.
Shiroukai wrote...
So um, are you saying you don't mind the beautfull/sexy armor women wear, as long as it is tastefull? Or are you saying you do mind, because even if it's unrealistic for woman to be armor clad warriors, it's still better for them to wear concealing armor, since it's more realistic fantasy wise?
Gotholhorakh wrote...
Shiroukai wrote...
So um, are you saying you don't mind the beautfull/sexy armor women wear, as long as it is tastefull? Or are you saying you do mind, because even if it's unrealistic for woman to be armor clad warriors, it's still better for them to wear concealing armor, since it's more realistic fantasy wise?
I'm saying:
1. The realism argument is basically moronic for female fighters in a fantasy world (and I don't mind people looking sexy and fantastical)
2. The bad necklines and cards and boobies in TW1 made for crap additions to the game - there's sexy and there's crass/childish.
Shirosaki17 wrote...
I have to say the women complaining about this stuff are being stupid.
Modifié par Ringo12, 08 mai 2011 - 03:23 .
Realism laughs at your poor understanding of it.slimgrin wrote...
It is in fact entirely unrealistic to think a woman would last more than a few seconds in such a battle.
tmp7704 wrote...
Realism laughs at your poor understanding of it.slimgrin wrote...
It is in fact entirely unrealistic to think a woman would last more than a few seconds in such a battle.
Modifié par Shiroukai, 08 mai 2011 - 05:49 .
virumor wrote...
I can't see the problem, really. There were actual female knights in medieval times, but they were all exceptional individuals... just like the female warriors in the Witcher universe.
Modifié par Pechvogel, 08 mai 2011 - 08:19 .
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Like heck they did.Shiroukai wrote...
They used little to no armor, and were only used during defending when there wern't enough soldiers present.
(and during times when the honor of their house were at stake, but these were mostly during piecefull times)
Tomoe was especially beautiful, with white skin, long hair, and charming features. She was also a remarkably strong archer, and as a swordswoman she was a warrior worth a thousand, ready to confront a demon or a god, mounted or on foot. She handled unbroken horses with superb skill; she rode unscathed down perilous descents. Whenever a battle was imminent, Yoshinaka sent her out as his first captain, equipped with strong armor, an oversized sword, and a mighty bow; and she performed more deeds of valor than any of his other warriors.
+1 I hated those, too. If you're going to run deep, story-based games where your devs themselves tout the realism... [/dead horse]GodWood wrote...
And I absolutely despise those designs.Edk wrote...
Let's take a look at other character designs, this time by bioware. Isabella is the most obvious example, but Miranda is even worse. She is wearing a helmet that covers only a small part of her face, and that is IN SPACE, DURING battle. And the high heels, of course. Very convenient during battle, freezing in space and/or breaking a leg. Really, bioware has some of the least realistic female character designs.
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