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The Witcher 2 is 'vastly, vastly better than Dragon age 2'


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Khayness wrote...

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I can't wait for it to be release so everyone will shut the hell up about the sex cards already.


It will get mentioned here every time, people got time to bash The Witcher between making 10k+ pages long character fanthreads with erotic fanfictions/fanarts and ****ing about romance sidequests.


Witcher 2 did away with the sex cards. Everytime someone brings it up it just shows how ignorant they are. Instead of checking to see the difference from Witcher 1 and 2. They believe CDProjekt kept everything the same.

Fortunately CRPR decided to you know make an M rated game and not let their game suffer like other companies.

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Don't anyone get it? Seems to me that EAWare fans are trying to sparkle flames in this thread so it gets close. Why bother with it?

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Well the thread title is inflammatory so it will bring a bad reaction fro those who liked DA2. It's not a good way to praise a game even if some reviewers are making this sort of a judgment.

Modifié par orbit991, 26 avril 2011 - 06:25 .


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mh someone seen the april joke? The bard saviour of queen.. its amazing

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Archaven wrote...

Don't anyone get it? Seems to me that EAWare fans are trying to sparkle flames in this thread so it gets close. Why bother with it?


It's also because the Witcher fans pick on the BioWare fans. However, some of it is justified, since the people that play Dragon Age make outrageous comments to provoke the Witcher fans.

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Couldn't the Bioware fanboys just leave this thread alone? Seems stupid.

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Ringo12 wrote...

Couldn't the Bioware fanboys just leave this thread alone? Seems stupid.


Certainly this is expected since if thread starter are comparing another unreleased game with a game that was produced by a respected developer that has gained a fair of fanbase.

Discussion always leads to arguments when either party has different opinions and it's basically always biased. It's all depends on what one's prefer eventhough it may be proven the other is better.

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All I care about is that The Witcher 2 is "vastly, vastly better than The Witcher 1." Which is more important than comparing with other RPGs.

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In that i truly agree with you. TW2 is vastly, vastly, vastly better than TW1 that i've played and seen with my bare naked eyes.

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ErichHartmann wrote...

All I care about is that The Witcher 2 is "vastly, vastly better than The Witcher 1." Which is more important than comparing with other RPGs.


Thats about the most sensible thing anyone has said in this thread.

I wanted to love TW1 as I love the books and world but I found the combat to be god awful and the voice acting got kind of distracting at times. It didn't helpt that I hate playing with keyboard and mouse. I never did get round to finishing it.

From what I've seen and read of TW2 the atmosphere and graphics are fantastic but so was TW1. From what I've read of the combat I saw a comment about being mobbed and constantly knocked back which made it sound like it has the potential to be really annoying like some of the DA2 battles. I wouldn't be declaring it better than anything until I've actually played it.

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Well the ...do not get surrounded by your enemy or you're dead... is nothing new and I welcome it.

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Ringo12 wrote...

Couldn't the Bioware fanboys just leave this thread alone? Seems stupid.


You are now aware that this thread is on the BioWare forums. Making a thread here and expecting BioWare fans not to post in it seems stupid.

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Whoa there! I don't know why people are speaking as if TW1>DA:O is a given, for my part DA:O and TW1 are fairly close together at the top end of the RPG scale but the consensus used to be (if I'm remembering this correctly) that DA:O edged in as the better game with better writing, better acting, better combat and better magic, and that while The Witcher was a pretty great, special game it also had slightly offputting/childish boobie cards and the combat was a bit weird, which some people loved and some people hated, but which just took the professional edge off.

(On that last point, if TW2 doesn't have the boobie cards, that'll be great as they were really a bit offputting for me.)

So let's not get revisionist - yes, if TW2 is an improvement on TW it's clearly going to stomp all over DA2 since TW1 was ten times the RPG DA2 is...

...BUT...

...TW being better than DA:O used to be a minority view, even among those of us who liked it and thought it was a pretty special game.

Anyway:

"Help us, The Witcher 2, you're our only hope."

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I find that the most interesting is combat in TW2 apart from the beautiful world and it's stories. I'm happy that finally the player will be more involved and actually need to put some effort in combat in terms of mixing magic/signs around, traps, potions, etc.

However, i believe most non action player will be put off with this game.

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Archaven wrote...

I find that the most interesting is combat in TW2 apart from the beautiful world and it's stories. I'm happy that finally the player will be more involved and actually need to put some effort in combat in terms of mixing magic/signs around, traps, potions, etc.

However, i believe most non action player will be put off with this game.


Yes, let's not forget that slightly weird combat mechanic in The Witcher, it may be a mistake for DA:O lovers to pin all their hopes on TW2 as the real successor.

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I think these threads need to stop. It's time to move on, and even the wisest of Dark Lords know that the most effective use of the Dark Side is when you use it with a discerning precision. Know that Proper Evil takes more than just poking the dragon, it takes a certain degree of Understanding of the appropriate time and place for unholy smiting.

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Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

I think these threads need to stop. It's time to move on, and even the wisest of Dark Lords know that the most effective use of the Dark Side is when you use it with a discerning precision. Know that Proper Evil takes more than just poking the dragon, it takes a certain degree of Understanding of the appropriate time and place for unholy smiting.



This is pretty damn EVIL

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Wow seriously.. what kinda move is that? Those items can easily be modded by the community with a toolset.

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To me comparing DAO with Witcher 1 is tough, loved both. Though I have to say the first 2 chapters in the Witcher were disjointed and slow to me, the first time I didn't finish. Recently I played through and damn what a payoff later on. DAO on the other hand was consistent through the game in pacing, though the ending was great it didn't give me as much of a wow feeling as the Witcher did.

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Ringo12 wrote...

Couldn't the Bioware fanboys just leave this thread alone? Seems stupid.


lol, this is a BioWare forum in case you haven't noticed.  I'd say your chances of having a pro 'one game' and anti 'BioWare game' thread on these forums is zero.

My big question about Witcher 2, have they totally and completely redone the combat.  If so, I'll surely give it a try.  If not it is a non starter, no matter how good the environs or the story.

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Beerfish wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Couldn't the Bioware fanboys just leave this thread alone? Seems stupid.


lol, this is a BioWare forum in case you haven't noticed.  I'd say your chances of having a pro 'one game' and anti 'BioWare game' thread on these forums is zero.

My big question about Witcher 2, have they totally and completely redone the combat.  If so, I'll surely give it a try.  If not it is a non starter, no matter how good the environs or the story.


Posted this combat link earlier in the thread, it's totally different then the first.

www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-combat-the-witcher/713171

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Beerfish wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Couldn't the Bioware fanboys just leave this thread alone? Seems stupid.


lol, this is a BioWare forum in case you haven't noticed.  I'd say your chances of having a pro 'one game' and anti 'BioWare game' thread on these forums is zero.

My big question about Witcher 2, have they totally and completely redone the combat.  If so, I'll surely give it a try.  If not it is a non starter, no matter how good the environs or the story.



Yea but DA2 before it was even released was hated by a lot of people and looking back now it seems it was hated for a good reason.

But yea the combat was changed dramtically it's a completely new system and even allows for mix and matching with your quick/heavy melee attacks, signs or items and now there are traps which adds even more and bombs can be thrown now also throwable weapons like ie: ninja stars or something.

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orbit991 wrote...

To me comparing DAO with Witcher 1 is tough, loved both. Though I have to say the first 2 chapters in the Witcher were disjointed and slow to me, the first time I didn't finish. Recently I played through and damn what a payoff later on. DAO on the other hand was consistent through the game in pacing, though the ending was great it didn't give me as much of a wow feeling as the Witcher did.


I agree with this. Both games, for me anyway, take some effort to get into. But once I'm a couple hours in, I can be stuck to my pc for 7 hrs, easy. DA does have better overall pacing I think. The early chapters of The Witcher seem a little convoluted.

At the end of playing The Witcher, however, I was amazed at how involved the game had become. What I originally thought was a quaint indie title turned out to be hugely ambitious and epic in scope, and it had an atmosphere unlike any other fantasy RPG I had played. I'm on my fourth run of The Witcher now, and my second run of DA. :) 

Modifié par slimgrin, 27 avril 2011 - 12:31 .


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slimgrin wrote...

orbit991 wrote...

To me comparing DAO with Witcher 1 is tough, loved both. Though I have to say the first 2 chapters in the Witcher were disjointed and slow to me, the first time I didn't finish. Recently I played through and damn what a payoff later on. DAO on the other hand was consistent through the game in pacing, though the ending was great it didn't give me as much of a wow feeling as the Witcher did.


I agree with this. Both games, for me anyway, take some effort to get into. But once I'm a couple hours in, I can be stuck to my pc for 7 hrs, easy. DA does have better overall pacing I think. The early chapters of The Witcher seem a little convoluted.

At the end of playing The Witcher, however, I was amazed at how involved the game had become. What I originally thought was a quaint indie title turned out to be hugely ambitious and epic in scope, and it had an atmosphere unlike any other fantasy RPG I had played. I'm on my fourth run of The Witcher now, and my second run of DA. :) 


I don't think anyone here disagrees with Origins and Witcher 1 both being fantastic game.

Origins in DA:O were great all but I felt how DA:O was great at the beginning at the end it wasn't special. Witcher 1 was the opposite.

I just didn't like the battle for Denerim it didn't feel very EPIC. Witcher 1's last act though was great. To see how your decisions finally panned out and the start of a civil war really felt more destructive then the Darkspawn attacking Denerim.

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I actually thought the Witcher's storyline was kinda cliche, especially the whole "mutagenic monsters threatening the world" stuff. I couldn't get why Geralt was taking part in this search for ingredients that were not actually usable in the game. furthermore, the character had a bad james bond style vibe with all the "famous bedroom antics". I also found that the setting was very tiresome, since I could see no reason why I should care about the world of the Witcher. I think that one of the positive things was the malleability of some aspects of the main character's personality.