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[orbit991]

doomsteel wrote...

so whats this whitcher about? smash the **** out of everyone,everything?any dialog?or just cards and swords

Well for the RPG purists it was the golden grail of rpg's, its the only game on the RPG codex that was not totally torn apart in recent memory. But they are nuts and to rpg hardcore for me.
It's an rpg that puts choices and consequnces as a priority, choices who's consequences you may not see till several hours later in the game, a decision that one might have considered simple can change fairly important things down the line. Many quests have alternatives to fighting, in fact some had no fighting, like the quests during a dinner party where you mingle with the political elite of Vizima, while rolling your eyes and wanting to get the hell out there. My favorite part at the party was found by accident as I started to drink with a knight who swore a vow of silence, yea he spoke after about the 6th bottle of wine.
There are way to many stories that weave through the game to list, but they tie together incredibly well in the end for an excellent payoff.
After getting a recent overdose of the Witcher 2 previews though, the second looks far more polished, not surprising consider the first Witcher was CDprojects first game ever.

Modifié par orbit991, 27 avril 2011 - 09:52 .

[TheMufflon]

orbit991 wrote...

Well for the RPG purists it was the golden grail of rpg's

No, not really. The Witcher is pretty much as different from "old-school" CRPGs as it gets while still being a CRPG.

[orbit991]

TheMufflon wrote...

orbit991 wrote...

Well for the RPG purists it was the golden grail of rpg's

No, not really. The Witcher is pretty much as different from "old-school" CRPGs as it gets while still being a CRPG.

Just when you think you see hardcore, someone more hardcore shows up. Anyone for the pen and paper thing?

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

orbit991 wrote...

TheMufflon wrote...

orbit991 wrote...

Well for the RPG purists it was the golden grail of rpg's

No, not really. The Witcher is pretty much as different from "old-school" CRPGs as it gets while still being a CRPG.

Just when you think you see hardcore, someone more hardcore shows up. Anyone for the pen and paper thing?

only if you are playing with 3.5 edition ruleset.

[Anathemic]

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

I actually thought the Witcher's storyline was kinda cliche, especially the whole "mutagenic monsters threatening the world" stuff. I couldn't get why Geralt was taking part in this search for ingredients that were not actually usable in the game. furthermore, the character had a bad james bond style vibe with all the "famous bedroom antics". I also found that the setting was very tiresome, since I could see no reason why I should care about the world of the Witcher. I think that one of the positive things was the malleability of some aspects of the main character's personality.

Errr "Mutagenic monsters threatening the world" wasn't the story of the game, nor is it the story in the books. Have you played the game?

Yes. I did play the game. I also interpreted the story for the game as being "well ****, the evil villan stole our thunder, and that thunder could be used to make Bad Stuff happen! Let's go hunt them down for a guy who we don't get to know very well in the intro". If you're curious, I finished the final boss fight by 'killing' the Wild hunt.

I also saw no reason as to why the character is getting railroaded into a plot that ultimately ends in a disatisfying way. I mean, you do witcher stuff and the game ends on a cliffhanger?!

color text= sarcastic satire.

How you missed the Civil War being present since Chapter 1 and the relation/importance of Alvin and the Grandmaster, I've no idea.

I'm not discrediting you on playing the game, but man. If you missed those major bit I hate to see you try and understand Lord of the Rings trilogy.

[Twitchmonkey]

Ringo12 wrote...

Umm have you even bothered to look any single video on The Witcher 2?

They may have taken care of the combat, but you can only really know if it feels right from playing it, and the other stuff is going to take some time with the game as well. Luckily there are people that will do that in my place so I don't end up wasting my money on another promising game that I end up not being able to tolerate.

[Chromie]

Twitchmonkey wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Umm have you even bothered to look any single video on The Witcher 2?

They may have taken care of the combat, but you can only really know if it feels right from playing it, and the other stuff is going to take some time with the game as well. Luckily there are people that will do that in my place so I don't end up wasting my money on another promising game that I end up not being able to tolerate.

Yup well just 20 days to go. Hopefully people give it a try. At least CDPR have spent four years (I forget?) working on The Witcher 2 so I assume we'll be getting a great game. Just 20 days ><

[Addai]

doomsteel wrote...

so whats this whitcher about? smash the **** out of everyone,everything?any dialog?or just cards and swords

It's a set character and the dialogue is not super great, but the story is good and it is a long, engaging, fun RPG.  The plot line is sort of your basic bad guys goes up against shadowy order of warriors, but it also involves politics, some magic, and a few romantic story lines in a very gritty medieval setting.  The art is beautiful.

It's good.  I would guess that most DA fans would like it.  The combat has some twitch mechanics (you have to click at the right time to make the PC go through a series of chain attacks) but there's also some variety in the combat.  You use different sword attacks and there are "signs" which are basically magic attacks like flame, knockback, etc.  On higher difficulties you also have to use alchemy to make potions or weapon enhancements.  Sometimes you have to use features in the environment for boss battles.  All in all I was quite impressed with it.

Modifié par Addai67, 28 avril 2011 - 02:37 .

[Chromie]

Ahem!

[orbit991]

Check this prieview out as well Ringo, really breaks things down.

www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/04/29/witcher-2-preview/

[Chromie]

I've read it before. For the people with questions it's a good read.

[Nashiktal]

Its times like this that make me regret not ever finishing The Witcher. It was that swamp... That very terrible, tedius, swamp.

That and the jilted dialogue and cutscenes. Do any of the previews for TW2 show an improvement in dialogue? Geralt's voice actor did a good job of making him sound gruff, but at the same time Geralt felt disconnected from anything, and not in the good RP way.

[Chromie]

Dialogue is something the dev's said was improved for Witcher 2 and the links provided are saying it has been and feels more mature and intune with the setting.

[uberdowzen]

OK, I know I'm going to get in trouble for saying this but it seems to me many of the "problems" with DA2 are in The Witcher.

- Short dungeons with repeated environments - check.
- Action-combat - check.
- Linear - check.
- Comprised mostly of smaller side quests - check.
- Pre determined voiced character - check.

And on top of that it's got distinctly average writing and fairly clunky story telling. Don't get me wrong, I'm really enjoying The Witcher but there do seem to be a few double standards here.

The Witcher 2 looks awesome though and will probably be slightly better than DA2.

[orbit991]

Yea Nashiktal that swamp, I stopped a bit after that actually, but just replayed it a couple weeks ago till the end, payoff was worth it to me. The dialogue and cut scenes are like day and night in the second, heres a few.

www.youtube.com/watch

This is from an early build with a place holder fist fight.

www.youtube.com/watch

www.youtube.com/watch

www.youtube.com/watch

[orbit991]

uberdowzen wrote...

OK, I know I'm going to get in trouble for saying this but it seems to me many of the "problems" with DA2 are in The Witcher.

- Short dungeons with repeated environments - check.
- Action-combat - check.
- Linear - check.
- Comprised mostly of smaller side quests - check.
- Pre determined voiced character - check.

And on top of that it's got distinctly average writing and fairly clunky story telling. Don't get me wrong, I'm really enjoying The Witcher but there do seem to be a few double standards here.

The Witcher 2 looks awesome though and will probably be slightly better than DA2.

Most of that is right, combat was a bit boring actually in the first, but predetermined character? It's based on the books about the witcher so be a bit forging there heh. but DA2 wont be even near the same legue as Witcher 2, not even on the same planet. Da2 was made to get quick cash, Witcher was made to win a GOTY(it's what the dev said at least).
Just look at the videos above and look at the great care everything in this game is made with. A month ago it was barely on my radar but after doing some homework on this game I know it will blow my socks off immersion and story wise. Hell, the story in the second branches so much you wont even see major cities if you make certain choices , you will go to an entirely different location. Lots of replay value there.

Modifié par orbit991, 30 avril 2011 - 08:56 .

[Archaven]

any spoiler on the videos orbit991?

[slimgrin]

uberdowzen wrote...

The Witcher 2 looks awesome though and will probably be slightly better than DA2.

...this made me laugh.

[Chromie]

uberdowzen wrote...

OK, I know I'm going to get in trouble for saying this but it seems to me many of the "problems" with DA2 are in The Witcher.

- Short dungeons with repeated environments - check.
- Action-combat - check.
- Linear - check.
- Comprised mostly of smaller side quests - check.
- Pre determined voiced character - check.

And on top of that it's got distinctly average writing and fairly clunky story telling. Don't get me wrong, I'm really enjoying The Witcher but there do seem to be a few double standards here.

The Witcher 2 looks awesome though and will probably be slightly better than DA2.

I just wanna know where did you hear repeated dungeons/environments from?

Every preview we have seen so far is the same build that was sent out to critics to play and write about. Ofcourse we only have heard of Flotsam and the prison escape and I remember that one video on youtube Geralt dying to Drowners.

Only the prologue is linear same as in Witcher 1. I wanna know where you heard the game is entirely linear. Even DA2 let's you do quests in any order and explorer (not much but w/e)

We have no details on side quests yet. All we know is there are no question marks so we are gonna have to look for them. Also no fedex quests so no kill this and get this item. Sounds like sidequests can be more involving this time around.

Witcher 1 has a predetermined character do you know why? It's based off a book series. Witcher 1 turned out to be a great game and CDProjekt like everything else in the game has made him better.

[Archaven]

slimgrin wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

The Witcher 2 looks awesome though and will probably be slightly better than DA2.

...this made me laugh.

yup laugh very hard though.. it's not slightly.. but ... it's freaky awesome supercalifragilisticexpialidocious better than DA2.. this comes from probably more than dozens of videos, interviews, reviews that i've seen.

[Chromie]

Archaven wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

The Witcher 2 looks awesome though and will probably be slightly better than DA2.

...this made me laugh.

yup laugh very hard though.. it's not slightly.. but ... it's freaky awesome supercalifragilisticexpialidocious better than DA2.. this comes from probably more than dozens of videos, interviews, reviews that i've seen.

Let's not forget the 4 years time they spent working on it. Not a laughable 1 year.

[88mphSlayer]

Ringo12 wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

OK, I know I'm going to get in trouble for saying this but it seems to me many of the "problems" with DA2 are in The Witcher.

- Short dungeons with repeated environments - check.
- Action-combat - check.
- Linear - check.
- Comprised mostly of smaller side quests - check.
- Pre determined voiced character - check.

And on top of that it's got distinctly average writing and fairly clunky story telling. Don't get me wrong, I'm really enjoying The Witcher but there do seem to be a few double standards here.

The Witcher 2 looks awesome though and will probably be slightly better than DA2.

I just wanna know where did you hear repeated dungeons/environments from?

Every preview we have seen so far is the same build that was sent out to critics to play and write about. Ofcourse we only have heard of Flotsam and the prison escape and I remember that one video on youtube Geralt dying to Drowners.

Only the prologue is linear same as in Witcher 1. I wanna know where you heard the game is entirely linear. Even DA2 let's you do quests in any order and explorer (not much but w/e)

We have no details on side quests yet. All we know is there are no question marks so we are gonna have to look for them. Also no fedex quests so no kill this and get this item. Sounds like sidequests can be more involving this time around.

Witcher 1 has a predetermined character do you know why? It's based off a book series. Witcher 1 turned out to be a great game and CDProjekt like everything else in the game has made him better.

he's talking about the first game which did have repeated dungeons/caves where they changed the lighting or moved cave-ins around so the layout was slightly different

not really a bad thing the way they did it, if DA2 had changed the lighting or layout that game would've benefited

[Chromie]

88mphSlayer wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

OK, I know I'm going to get in trouble for saying this but it seems to me many of the "problems" with DA2 are in The Witcher.

- Short dungeons with repeated environments - check.
- Action-combat - check.
- Linear - check.
- Comprised mostly of smaller side quests - check.
- Pre determined voiced character - check.

And on top of that it's got distinctly average writing and fairly clunky story telling. Don't get me wrong, I'm really enjoying The Witcher but there do seem to be a few double standards here.

The Witcher 2 looks awesome though and will probably be slightly better than DA2.

I just wanna know where did you hear repeated dungeons/environments from?

Every preview we have seen so far is the same build that was sent out to critics to play and write about. Ofcourse we only have heard of Flotsam and the prison escape and I remember that one video on youtube Geralt dying to Drowners.

Only the prologue is linear same as in Witcher 1. I wanna know where you heard the game is entirely linear. Even DA2 let's you do quests in any order and explorer (not much but w/e)

We have no details on side quests yet. All we know is there are no question marks so we are gonna have to look for them. Also no fedex quests so no kill this and get this item. Sounds like sidequests can be more involving this time around.

Witcher 1 has a predetermined character do you know why? It's based off a book series. Witcher 1 turned out to be a great game and CDProjekt like everything else in the game has made him better.

he's talking about the first game which did have repeated dungeons/caves where they changed the lighting or moved cave-ins around so the layout was slightly different

not really a bad thing the way they did it, if DA2 had changed the lighting or layout that game would've benefited

Well come on it was their first game they made and it was great and anyways my previous post still holds up to his fear of Witcher 2. But only slightly better then DA2? That's laughable.

[Archaven]

Emm so are we comparing a 2011 game (DA2) with a 2007 game (TW1) which even uses the date Aurora engine? Isn't that shameful to DA2?

[Chromie]

Archaven wrote...

Emm so are we comparing a 2011 game (DA2) with a 2007 game (TW1) which even uses the date Aurora engine? Isn't that shameful to DA2?

Isn't DA2 shameful to Bioware? >.>