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[Ryzaki]

Targy90 wrote...

*sighs* It was 4 Lis. And you couldn't romance anyone at the same time. Getting with one person would either cancel out the older one/any new ones. And Merill and Anders made it difficult to romance anyone after them. (You could exploit their romances but you can do the same thing in ME2)

There was no harem fanatasy.

Ok.

I still maintain that having all LIs be bisexual is just a way of BW saying that they couldn't be arsed to spend more time and money on this aspect of the game.

Dude. We have the same five maps for the whole f***ing game. 

If there's anything to complain about it's *that* not the Lis being open to anyone. They didn't exactly have a lot of wiggle room. 

(Not to mention gay only romances aren't resource friendly and at the present time just aren't feasible. The closest thing to a choice would've been to make all the Lis bi. And frankly I'm happy they did that.  They decided to give everyone a choice.) 

I mean good lord. Of all the things to say the devs are lazy about and it's having more than one bi opion? So what they'd be less lazy if they cut two of the bi options?  

Modifié par Ryzaki, 23 avril 2011 - 10:25 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Olwydd wrote...
Now you're just being ridiculous. Nobody is saying they can't possbly enjoy the game, and nobody is threatening to boycott. People are just discussingt the inclusion of a feature that they will benefit from. It happens all the time on these forums.

Yet if you oppose this feature you're assumed to be some sort of baby-killing, blood drinking, sociopath.

[Chewin]

Redhot_1 wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

adneate wrote...
Yes in fact you should be torn apart by wild dogs for this indescretion. Set phasers for fail Chewie.

*yawn* Says the number 1 Battlestar Galactica fan.

Don't ****** of fanboys, Chew. They'll rage at you with incredible power

[jlb524]

Yeah, it's ridiculous to equate wanting bi LIs with wanting your own harem for your character.

I support the all bi LI thing in DA2 but only romanced one of them! Oh noes, I'm doing it wrong!

[PlumPaul93]

Targy90 wrote...

*sighs* It was 4 Lis. And you couldn't romance anyone at the same time. Getting with one person would either cancel out the older one/any new ones. And Merill and Anders made it difficult to romance anyone after them. (You could exploit their romances but you can do the same thing in ME2)

There was no harem fanatasy.

Ok.

I still maintain that having all LIs be bisexual is just a way of BW saying that they couldn't be arsed to spend more time and money on this aspect of the game.

That is true I remember a quote from laidlaw or gaider where they said making romances available for all was a cheaper and less timely thing.

[Russalka]

ReconTeam wrote...

Yet if you oppose this feature you're assumed to be some sort of baby-killing, blood drinking, sociopath.

It is demagogy to serve that as an argument and to assume that everyone wishing for bisexuality has that stance.

[Epic Legion]

Mass Effect is RPG, not some stupid romance simulator. If you can't enjoy game without LI's go play Sims.

[Redhot_1]

@Chewin3 Yeah, something like that

[Vormaerin]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

@vormaerin Quarians are known for their tech expertise. Tali is noted even by her own people as an exceptional tech expert. I don't think there's a lot humans who can beat that. Garrus? Garrus was brought a long for his skills that he showed on Omega, which were pretty exceptional if you ask me.

Also, note that Cerberus spent a TON of money on bringing Shepard back. I'm not saying they're broke, though. Also, Cerberus DID hire Zaeed, who pretty much has the same skills as Garrus.

The fact that those aliens were good at their job does not mean that they are the only ones who are at that level.  Zaeed is just as good as Thane or Garrus. 

What's the point in defining Cerberus as a human supremacists and then have them spend all their time recruiting aliens for their most important mission?   And, seriously, they found an entire crew of a ship out of their loyalists and none of them have a problem with aliens?   Its a stretch....

[jlb524]

Vormaerin wrote...

What's the point in defining Cerberus as a human supremacists and then have them spend all their time recruiting aliens for their most important mission?   And, seriously, they found an entire crew of a ship out of their loyalists and none of them have a problem with aliens?   Its a stretch....

Plus, they are giving these aliens access to their ship's technology (Garrus was calibrating something important and then Tali is down in Engineering playing around with the ship).

That makes a whole lot of sense....oh wait... 

What would make more sense would be to replace Garrus and Tali with human, Cerberus loyalists.

Cerberus has tons of "specialists".  Kai Lang seems to be one of them...he could have been on Shepard's team instead of Thane.

[Isaidlunch]

Epic Legion wrote...

Mass Effect is RPG, not some stupid romance simulator. If you can't enjoy game without LI's go play Sims.

No one here has said anything like that. Also your "romance simulator" argument doesn't carry much weight for anyone that has a working brain.

Modifié par Kazanth, 23 avril 2011 - 10:29 .

[Ramirez Wolfen]

@vormaerin not everyone on the Normandy was a Cerberus loyalist.

And Thane and Zaeed are different.

[Targy90]

The fact that those aliens were good at their job does not mean that they are the only ones who are at that level. Zaeed is just as good as Thane or Garrus.

Some of these aliens simply were better in their respective fields than humans.
Also, I bet electronics experts and scientists that willingly follow Shepard into peril are rather hard to come by. Getting shot to bits isn't exactly part of the job description.

What's the point in defining Cerberus as a human supremacists and then have them spend all their time recruiting aliens for their most important mission? And, seriously, they found an entire crew of a ship out of their loyalists and none of them have a problem with aliens? Its a stretch....

I think they propably put their feelings aside for this little mission... what was it agai- ah yes, saving human colonies and destroying the collectors.

[Ryzaki]

Kazanth wrote...

Epic Legion wrote...

Mass Effect is RPG, not some stupid romance simulator. If you can't enjoy game without LI's go play Sims.

No one here has said anything like that. Also your "romance simulator" argument doesn't carry much weight for anyone that has a working brain.

Especially not considering there are already nine different romance interests. 

[Maugrim]

Ryzaki wrote...

Kazanth wrote...

Epic Legion wrote...

Mass Effect is RPG, not some stupid romance simulator. If you can't enjoy game without LI's go play Sims.

No one here has said anything like that. Also your "romance simulator" argument doesn't carry much weight for anyone that has a working brain.

Especially not considering there are already nine different romance interests. 

And not one of them is bisexual.  Which is very unrealistic.

[Vormaerin]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

@vormaerin not everyone on the Normandy was a Cerberus loyalist.

And Thane and Zaeed are different.

That's exactly the problem.   TIM spends billions of credits on rebuilding a ship with the finest technology in Cerberus' research facilities and he can't even find enough loyal people to staff it?   What kind of nonsense is that?

I'm not sure what the comment about Thane and Zaeed being different has to do with anything.  Duh.  The point is that finding someone human and pro Cerberus who is as good as Thane ought not be very hard.  There are even characters in the books and stuff (which I haven't read) who apparently already exist in canon.

[Russalka]

makenzieshepard wrote...

And not one of them is bisexual.  Which is very unrealistic.

I was going to correct you, but then I remembered Liara and Kelly really and totally do not  count for anything!

Modifié par Russalka, 23 avril 2011 - 10:45 .

[Ryzaki]

And not one of them is taken.  Which is very unrealistic.

 :innocent:

[AngelicMachinery]

makenzieshepard wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Kazanth wrote...

Epic Legion wrote...

Mass Effect is RPG, not some stupid romance simulator. If you can't enjoy game without LI's go play Sims.

No one here has said anything like that. Also your "romance simulator" argument doesn't carry much weight for anyone that has a working brain.

Especially not considering there are already nine different romance interests. 

And not one of them is bisexual.  Which is very unrealistic.

Bisexual people aren't real  haven't you heard.  I am beginning to doubt my own existance.  Where's Descartes when you need him...

[jeweledleah]

Ryzaki wrote...


[/i]Helps that the LIs didn't do that childish "It's me or him!!!" thing. 

<_< monogamy and desire for exclusive relationship is no more childish then homosexuality. 

also - with adding romance paths for Ash/Kaidan is more like 6 different paths (3 for each character "stayed loyal" path, oposite sex "can we start over" path, same sex "I never knew that's how you felt, Shepard" path) + whatever consequences of moving on to someone else in ME2 they think up.  Not to mention - the whole wait a minute, you mean I saved the wrong person and now have to start the game over and that Genesis comic is not going to give you all the variables to select - hell ps3 genesis comic skips Feros all together, among other things.

and no, having Kaidan/Ashley initiate it because they were in love from the start?  not seeing it at all.  it does create the same issue though as with Anders coming on so strong and erodes already precarious friendship path, not to mention "everyone loves Shepard all the time, regardless of how they behave"  is getting old.  If SHepard is to find love, especialy love with characters that they have up and down relationship with, they need to work for it.

new characters though?  just write identical romance paths for either gender that's availalbe to everyone regardless of their choices in prior 2 games and call it a day. pretty sure they are adding some new characters anyways.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Also, it is unrealistic that every specialist in the game would be human. You say that it's unrealistic that Cerberus hired aliens, Mordin mentions this as well. But the answer to that is:

You need the best of the best, and not all of them are human so let's put away our differences to save humanity.

[Ryzaki]

jeweledleah wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...


[/i]Helps that the LIs didn't do that childish "It's me or him!!!" thing. 

<_< monogamy and desire for exclusive relationship is no more childish then homosexuality. 

also - with adding romance paths for Ash/Kaidan is more like 6 different paths (3 for each character "stayed loyal" path, oposite sex "can we start over" path, same sex "I never knew that's how you felt, Shepard" path) + whatever consequences of moving on to someone else in ME2 they think up.  Not to mention - the whole wait a minute, you mean I saved the wrong person and now have to start the game over and that Genesis comic is not going to give you all the variables to select - hell ps3 genesis comic skips Feros all together, among other things.

and no, having Kaidan/Ashley initiate it because they were in love from the start?  not seeing it at all.  it does create the same issue though as with Anders coming on so strong and erodes already precarious friendship path, not to mention "everyone loves Shepard all the time, regardless of how they behave"  is getting old.  If SHepard is to find love, especialy love with characters that they have up and down relationship with, they need to work for it.

new characters though?  just write identical romance paths for either gender that's availalbe to everyone regardless of their choices in prior 2 games and call it a day. pretty sure they are adding some new characters anyways.

And my point went completely over your head. Two people at a standstill going "Pick me or her shepard." is just...silly. Especially when they all do it. The only saving grace that had was that Kaidan/Ash walked off in disgust if you suggested a threesome. ME2 was slightly better with them only doing it infront of Shepard but even that was pretty bleh. It has zip to do with a desire for monogamy or what sexuality someone is. Zero. I thought it was childish when Anders kept going "don't you want someone better Hawke?" to my dude Hawke who was with Fenris. So yeah 0 to do with sexuality. It struck me as very "let's stroke Shepard's ego some more." 

And yeah I disagree with all of that. But we're not going to agree regardless. Oh noes 2 people becoming bisexual LIs means everyone loves Shepard...despite...the fact that they don't? Yeah...

Modifié par Ryzaki, 23 avril 2011 - 10:49 .

[Maugrim]

jeweledleah wrote...


new characters though?  just write identical romance paths for either gender that's availalbe to everyone regardless of their choices in prior 2 games and call it a day. pretty sure they are adding some new characters anyways.

Sounds kinda lazy and sloppy...oh right the hypocrisy thing.   Sorry forgot, the same rules don't apply to you!

[Ramirez Wolfen]

@makenzieshepard

Most people aren't bisexual.