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[Russalka]

Imperium Alpha wrote...
you just said it... BioWare should not care for 1-3 weirdo who want man/man relation <_<

You completely missed my point.

What I meant in relation to what the quoted person said, was that if bisexual options were added people would complain the same way, even though it is a completely optional and simple addition to the game.

The quoted person frets about something that does not particularly touch him at all and is optional to everyone.

And there are gay characters in the Alliance. Do not use your opinions as facts.

Modifié par Russalka, 02 mai 2011 - 12:14 .

[ElitePinecone]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Anyway. The Alliance don't accept gay in there rank. So not happening... <<< This is the best excuse i saw so far.

Um. Source? Seriously. You can't just make stuff up and call it real.

Hendel Mitra was an ex-Alliance marine and clearly gay.

[Wittand25]

Imperium Alpha wrote...
You just said it... BioWare should not care for 1-3 weirdo who want man/man relation [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]
Anyway. The Alliance don't accept gay in there rank. So not happening... <<< This is the best excuse i saw so far.

a.) Just add 1190 to your estimate. the fight for the love group is about as big as most other LI threads ,with the exeption of Tali of course but I still believe something fishy is going on concerning the number of users in some of her groups

b.)Hendel Mitra member of the Alliance and gay.

[Russalka]

Ignore the person. He has nothing to add.

[didymos1120]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

"A former Alliance soldier"

You see he get kick out because he was gay... I knew this theory of Alliance being homophobic was true

Your trolling needs work.

[CroGamer002]

Imperium Alpha wrote...
you just said it... BioWare should not care for 1-3 weirdo who want man/man relation <_<

How long have you been on BSN?

There's a lot of people who want M/M romance.

Not one of them that wants it I admit, but I'm not against it either.

Modifié par Mesina2, 02 mai 2011 - 12:22 .

[alienatedflea]

ElitePinecone wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...
This rumor that there was a gay scene between SHep and Alenko in ME1 when there was none and other gay scenes with various squaddies in ME2...

Here you go.

Also here.

Also here.

And here.

It's not a rumour. It's fact. It was always intended, Bioware devs have confirmed that it was planned and recorded.

It does mean anything at the end of the day..you know why? because in the final draft of the game in its development it was scrapped...therefore NO gay relationships occurred in both of the two games so its not included therefore why would they change it this late in the game? its like a favorite movie we like...there is of course deleted scenes but at the end, it was cut because the director didnt think it added anything to the movie...maybe the executive producer didnt think it brought anything to the game? Oh wait that revelation will make gays on the forum think Bioware is homophobic...lol even though all the other games have gay content in it...lol just great...

[Russalka]

It can mean either. There is basis to not include bisexual options and there is basis to do it.

[ElitePinecone]

alienatedflea wrote...
Oh wait that revelation will make gays on the forum think Bioware is homophobic...lol even though all the other games have gay content in it...lol just great...

You're making assumptions. Very few people think Bioware is homophobic - and I know because we have super sekrit discussions. If anything they're the opposite, and people on the forum, for the most part, generally believe that. Look at the positive reaction Gader got for defending the gay romances in DA2.  

One question, though. Do you think the Tali/Garrus romances should've been excluded from ME2, since they were't available in the first game and in fact showed no attraction to Shepard? (zilch, nada, nothing). 

I could totally appreciate if s/s content weren't included. It would be disappointing, but not the end of the world.

That doesn't mean we can still suggest ways for the game to be improved. With respect, if you have nothing useful to contribute to the discussion - except repeating your points and saying 'lol' a lot - there isn't much point in posting. You definitely aren't going to change many people's minds. 

[alienatedflea]

ElitePinecone wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...
 Its not going to happen so stop ****ing about it...just hope its in the next ME storyline...

Let me write this as clearly as I can. 

This is an internet forum about Bioware's games. This thread is discussing Bioware's games, and what could be done to improve them. People have different opinions.

They have a right to those opinions. You may disagree. 

You have no right to shut down anyone's expression of opinion, unless they're going against the site rules. Since nobody is being offensive or defamatory, as far as I can see, everything in this forum is relevant discussion. 

Protest against it if you like, using all the fragile arguments and half-baked protests you can muster. But don't say we shouldn't be talking about the issue just because you find it offensive or repetitive. Discussion is never, ever a bad thing. 

You don't like it? Don't read this topic. Leave it in peace. 

There is nothing in this thread right now that would "improve" ME series...at the end of the day, all it does is alienate people to one side being gay and forcing their sexuality into the game and the other side saying the game is good as is and saying there is no guarantee the people who are complaining will ever be happy...they complaing because they can...not because complaining will improve anything about ME series...
Elitepinecone is a repeat poster on "Fight for the love" thread...that threat is completely and utterly biased toward appeasing the gay community (if you don't believe me, say anything thats not along the lines of "Of course it makes total sense to include gay material in this RPG." I have said this before but the ME gay material would have worked if it was included in the first game...not the LAST game.of the trilogy...it wont improve the game I promise it will make it worse off because it will be not believable...believability is what makes the difference between good games and awesome games...

[Russalka]

Yeah, well, that's just your opinion.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

alienatedflea wrote...
it wont improve the game I promise it will make it worse off because it will be not believable...believability is what makes the difference between good games and awesome games...

Aside from the fact that there were at least 2 gay relationships that could be had in ME1 and 2.5 - 3 gay relationships that could be had in ME2, believability was never present in this game series.

If you think it's believable that a person can be resurrected from the dead but can't believe a gay relationship can develop at a late stage while being absent in an earlier stage, well, you've got something wrong with you.  Homophobia perhaps.

[didymos1120]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Aside from the fact that there were at least 2 gay relationships that could be had in ME1 and 2.5 - 3 gay relationships that could be had in ME2, believability was never present in this game series.

Well, the flea here doesn't count modded LIs, nor does Liara qualify (the whole "It's not gay if it's with an asari" nonsense).  I'm gonna venture that Kelly's out too on the standard "she's not a real LI" grounds. 

[ReallyRue]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...
it wont improve the game I promise it will make it worse off because it will be not believable...believability is what makes the difference between good games and awesome games...

Aside from the fact that there were at least 2 gay relationships that could be had in ME1 and 2.5 - 3 gay relationships that could be had in ME2, believability was never present in this game series.

If you think it's believable that a person can be resurrected from the dead but can't believe a gay relationship can develop at a late stage while being absent in an earlier stage, well, you've got something wrong with you.  Homophobia perhaps.

Quoted for truth.
There's a lot that's unbelievable in the ME world in general, but we still love it and accept it. So why is homosexuality somehow unbelievable.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

didymos1120 wrote...
Well, the flea here doesn't count modded LIs, nor does Liara qualify (the whole "It's not gay if it's with an asari" nonsense).  I'm gonna venture that Kelly's out too on the standard "she's not a real LI" grounds.

I'm not talking mods either.  Disregarding asari (which would be an incorrect thing to do) still doesn't change anything.

Kelly alone is enough to invalidate his opinion, even if anyone does try to argue that she's "not a real LI".  What is she then?  Even if she's just a one-night stand or fling it doesn't change a single thing in this situation.  If you disregard the asari then there was no homosexuality in ME1.  You can't disregard Kelly, as even as a fling she is homosexual content.  And that would mean that they added homosexual content to femShep at a later game (which isn't true because the asari are female, but that argument has no meaning for this particular point).

So either BioWare has already gone and made the series worse by adding in homosexual content, or this flea is full of crap.  I'm going with the latter.

[CroGamer002]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...
you just said it... BioWare should not care for 1-3 weirdo who want man/man relation <_<

How long have you been on BSN?

There's a lot of people who want M/M romance.

Not one of them that wants it I admit, but I'm not against it either.

Use mods and let dev time on other thing... <_<

Read the bolded part.

Modifié par Mesina2, 02 mai 2011 - 01:49 .

[didymos1120]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

So either BioWare has already gone and made the series worse by adding in homosexual content, or this flea is full of crap.

More or less what I was getting at.

[Lapis Lazuli]

There should be a renegade option to be homophobic. If there's a renegade option to be murderous, then certainly homophobia is mild by comparison.

[Sajuro]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Anyway. The Alliance don't accept gay in there rank. So not happening... <<< This is the best excuse i saw so far.

Why wouldn't the Alliance allow gay people into their ranks when most modern militaries do?
Besides, they can just be Shepsexual.

[Tripedius]

Again I ask, who cares. It's a game, a male Shep just isn't into men, period. All this whining about some minor aspect of the game really creeps me out. Like there is nothing beter to improve on than which pixel character you can 'think' your sexing during the fade to black. Besides you can be a gay Shepard, but Thane and Jacob just don't swing that way. 

Edit: maybe a nice solution is, if you haven't romanced anybody during ME1 and ME2 you can a fling with Urdina.

Modifié par Tripedius, 02 mai 2011 - 03:21 .

[didymos1120]

Tripedius wrote...

All this whining about some minor aspect of the game really creeps me out.

Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but if that's the case then: Go. Elsewhere.  You're clearly not interested in discussing the issue, so why not find something else that doesn't offend your sensibilities?  I mean, it's not like people will suddenly decide to stop talking about this just because you disapprove.

Modifié par didymos1120, 02 mai 2011 - 03:53 .

[Valmarn]

I say they leave male homosexuality out of ME 3. ME 1 and 2 did fine without it.

No need to mess with the romance formula on the last leg of the journey. If they want to try it with their next saga in the Mass Effect universe, I have no problem with it.