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[Confused-Shepard]

There should be a Renegade interrupt that allows you to laugh in their face when they proudly announce that they are a Spectre. You can continue to mock them or say sorry.

[corporal doody]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

There should be a Renegade interrupt that allows you to laugh in their face when they proudly announce that they are a Spectre. You can continue to mock them or say sorry.

or a interrupt everytime they try to tell you something rather than suggest something. YOU DONT TELL SHEP WHAT TO DO YOU JIVE TURKEY!!

[Someone With Mass]

Nihlus, Shepard and Saren pretty much set the tone for Spectres being BAMFs.

Now it's just a title.

[rolson00]

nelly21 wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

doesn't make sense to be a spectre you have to get rid of all your old loyaltys as you have to protect the whole galaxy ash is to pro human plus it cheapens shepard being the first human spectre and only one that was a great view point to play

Having a human Spectre does serve the Alliance though. That's the reason they wanted Sheperd to get in so badly in ME 1.

Also, how does it cheapen Sheperd's achievment? Should there never be another human Spectre?

i was saying it was great playing the only human spectre when i think "spectre" ash makes me cringe at the idea when i try and imagine her being one. for me it doesn't go, kaiden i can imagene tho or maybe that james sanders fellow 

[corporal doody]

Petition! Albert T. Pennywinkle III, esq. from Lincoln, Nebraska as the next human spectre!

[lolwut666]

Well, Kalara Tomi (the asari that wanted to leave the Citadel) did say that, ever since humanity got a seat in the Council, they've been nominating anyone for a Spectre position.

[ROD525]

rolson00 wrote...

doesn't make sense to be a spectre you have to get rid of all your old loyaltys as you have to protect the whole galaxy ash is to pro human plus it cheapens shepard being the first human spectre and only one that was a great view point to play

And Saren was Pro-Turian....so whats your point?

[Recon Member]

@corporal doody Say what?

Modifié par Thekill_3, 25 avril 2011 - 02:58 .

[Someone With Mass]

It just feels like the Council really lowered their standards for the Spectres when they accepted the VS, compared to Shepard and other Spectres.

[nelly21]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Nihlus, Shepard and Saren pretty much set the tone for Spectres being BAMFs.

Now it's just a title.

I've never understood why Nihlus is so popular. The guy gets shot in the head five minutes into the first game. Really Nihlus? You didn't realize Saren was bad? Randomly showing up at a mission that he had nothing to do with wasn't at all suspicious? The glowing metallic eyes and wires coming out of his neck, back and arm wasn't enough to at least be cautious around him?

If Nihlus is a BAMF, then the Council are unholy wizard god children of Chuck Norris and Charlie Sheen.

[rolson00]

ROD525 wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

doesn't make sense to be a spectre you have to get rid of all your old loyaltys as you have to protect the whole galaxy ash is to pro human plus it cheapens shepard being the first human spectre and only one that was a great view point to play

And Saren was Pro-Turian....so whats your point?

... he was pro reaper  it just makes me cringe when i try and picture her a spectre like gorden brown leading still

Modifié par rolson00, 25 avril 2011 - 03:02 .

[Someone With Mass]

nelly21 wrote...

I've never understood why Nihlus is so popular. The guy gets shot in the head five minutes into the first game. Really Nihlus? You didn't realize Saren was bad? Randomly showing up at a mission that he had nothing to do with wasn't at all suspicious? The glowing metallic eyes and wires coming out of his neck, back and arm wasn't enough to at least be cautious around him?

If Nihlus is a BAMF, then the Council are unholy wizard god children of Chuck Norris and Charlie Sheen.

My guess it's because Saren was in Nihlus' eyes still a Spectre and could be trusted.

[corporal doody]

nelly21 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Nihlus, Shepard and Saren pretty much set the tone for Spectres being BAMFs.

Now it's just a title.

I've never understood why Nihlus is so popular. The guy gets shot in the head five minutes into the first game. Really Nihlus? You didn't realize Saren was bad? Randomly showing up at a mission that he had nothing to do with wasn't at all suspicious? The glowing metallic eyes and wires coming out of his neck, back and arm wasn't enough to at least be cautious around him?

If Nihlus is a BAMF, then the Council are unholy wizard god children of Chuck Norris and Charlie Sheen.

kinda like Boba Fett....cept Nihlus doesnt have the cool toy.
I think it has more to do with the backstory more  than anything...especially the tidbits from samara

[Confused-Shepard]

Just to clarify, my previous post was not a joke. My Shepard will feel a bit insulted
I mean Kaidan's older and has more experience but he never came of as Specter material
Ashley even less so. She's like Cole Train from Gears Of War. All brawn. Some Poetry.

Also, every-time a character mentions Nihlus they talk about how incredible he was 
He was Turian Chuck Norris.

Modifié par Confused-Shepard, 25 avril 2011 - 03:10 .

[nelly21]

corporal doody wrote...

kinda like Boba Fett....cept Nihlus doesnt have the cool toy.
I think it has more to do with the backstory more  than anything...especially the tidbits from samara

Boba Fett too. I just don't get it. I mean sure, if Han Solo is scared of you, you must have some evil demonic skeletons in your closet but I don't get the popularity.

Nihlus? Even less.

[Antivenger]

nelly21 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Nihlus, Shepard and Saren pretty much set the tone for Spectres being BAMFs.

Now it's just a title.

I've never understood why Nihlus is so popular. The guy gets shot in the head five minutes into the first game. Really Nihlus? You didn't realize Saren was bad? Randomly showing up at a mission that he had nothing to do with wasn't at all suspicious? The glowing metallic eyes and wires coming out of his neck, back and arm wasn't enough to at least be cautious around him?

If Nihlus is a BAMF, then the Council are unholy wizard god children of Chuck Norris and Charlie Sheen.

He was the token black guy of ME1

I'm beginning to suspect these people who don't agree with Ash becoming a SpecTRe is because they don't like them. Unqualified? She fought Geth and Rachni and a brainwashed army of Krogan. Heck, Ashley being a lowly unexperienced grunt before that would actually add to how great her capabilities are. Both she and Kaidan served as the only humans besides Shepard in the ground team for ME1, they are known across the galaxy as the people who stopped the galaxy from being taken over by a crazed Turian and his army of synthetic soldiers. And you'd rather an unknown become the next human SpecTRe?

[corporal doody]

not liking them have something to do with it...but there are plenty of arguments in this topic that list viable/legitimate reasons against.

[corporal doody]

corporal doody wrote...

The council went so far as to call Shep a delusional poison pill. Why would anyone loyal to Shep be any different? VS..especially if they were a LI would have been very close to Shep. why is that line about the council not wanting to get involved in the investigation of missing HUMAN colonists dismissed? Why say this in front of the human councilor then send a human spectre who represents the council to investigate something they do not want to get involved in? In makes no sense. EVEN after Anderson SAYS.....Williams is STILL WITH THE ALLIANCE. mmmm why Ash say had to ask Anderson to verify intel but he wouldnt talk? If she was a spectre it would have been news he could have shared.oh..and the I know where my loyalty lies, with the Alliance...it's in my blood. more evidence to the contrary than for!  I find it HIGHLY unlikely that the council would make VS a spectre in between 2 and 3...ESPECIALLY after the s*** storm Shep kicked up. EVERYONE will try to further distance themselves...it makes sense politically.

maybe S is Alliance Intelligence or Security Forces

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[Ramirez Wolfen]

To those that say that the VS helped take down tons of Geth and helped Shepard on the missions:

I don't think it counts because you don't have to take the VS anywhere with you after Eden Prime (nothing really major happens on the Citadel afterwards). I think that's more of a gameplay issue.

[Clonedzero]

yeah i dont understand everyone hating the idea of the VS being the next human spectre. both ashley and kaidan are pretty damn badass. i'll admit kaidan makes alittle more sense simply because he's higher rank, but i doubt thats significantly important.

kaidan before the start of ME1 is already well decorated (mention of having over a dozen medals and commendations). Ashley has had crap duties up until ME1.

however in ME1 both are part of a strike team that pretty much single handedly saved an entire galaxy. this strike team fought through entire armies of geth, rachni, krogans, husks, thorian creepers, ect. they probably logged more actual combat time in their time on shepards strike team than entire front line platoons of marines.

now im convinced simply from their jobs in ME1. some no name human spectre is gonna have a list of meaningless accomplishments that doesnt mean anything to anyone. However theres still the fact that there is two full years of missing time where shepard was "dead". meaning they could have done all sorts of badass stuff. all of ME1 and ME2 take under a year to do when you combine them.

so if bioware really wants to sell us on them being a spectre they can easily have them do some really badass stuff. perhaps due to their experience fighting geth they were the ones that led most of the assaults on geth bases over those two years. anderson says in ME2 they've already taken care of it maybe it was the VS that did it? makes sense to me

[Ramirez Wolfen]

I don't hate the idea myself. As long as during that two years the VS did something impressive.

[Clonedzero]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

To those that say that the VS helped take down tons of Geth and helped Shepard on the missions:

I don't think it counts because you don't have to take the VS anywhere with you after Eden Prime (nothing really major happens on the Citadel afterwards). I think that's more of a gameplay issue.

well them not doing anything at all is gameplay thing as well. after recruiting tali (in both games mind you) she pretty much did NOTHING at all except sit in the engine room the entire time.

its "canon" that shepard is the one who kills saren right? well in my game it was Garrus because i was running around hiding waiting for my shields to recharge and my cooldowns to come back lol garrus just poppped him a few times in the head and we won but shepard stole all the credit eh? so yeah, gameplay isnt exactly canon.

[Antivenger]

corporal doody wrote...

The council went so far as to call
Shep a delusional poison pill. Why would anyone loyal to Shep be any
different? VS..especially if they were a LI would have been very close
to Shep. why is that line about the council not wanting to get involved
in the investigation of missing HUMAN colonists dismissed? Why say this
in front of the human councilor then send a human spectre who represents
the council to investigate something they do not want to get involved
in? In makes no sense. EVEN after Anderson SAYS.....Williams is STILL
WITH THE ALLIANCE. mmmm why Ash say had to ask Anderson to verify intel
but he wouldnt talk? If she was a spectre it would have been news he
could have shared.oh..and the I know where my loyalty lies, with the
Alliance...it's in my blood. more evidence to the contrary than for! 
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that the council would make VS a spectre in
between 2 and 3...ESPECIALLY after the s*** storm Shep kicked up.
EVERYONE will try to further distance themselves...it makes sense
politically.

maybe S is Alliance Intelligence or Security Forces

Shepard was saying that the galaxy was going to be attacked by a race of sentient robots who lived outside of the galaxy, and had no proof. That's like a hobo on the street yelling out "The world is endin' ta morrow!". Even then, they still sent him after Saren, both to try stopping him and to placate the Alliance. What makes it so hard to believe that they would make the VS a SpecTRe so they themselves could investigate the missing colonists? This time with having a human councillor to back them up, even.

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

To those that say that the VS helped take down tons of Geth and helped Shepard on the missions:

I
don't think it counts because you don't have to take the VS anywhere
with you after Eden Prime (nothing really major happens on the Citadel
afterwards). I think that's more of a gameplay issue.

I don't think who you take on missions really counts towards the story. Even if you only take, say Liara and Wrex on missions, it doesn't mean Tali and Garrus got fat aboard the Normandy eating dextro-cakes, story-wise (unless you never recruited Garrus? Then he was probably getting down with Dr. Chloe. Ugh, damn head canons).

Modifié par Antivenger, 25 avril 2011 - 03:31 .

[Clonedzero]

also, just pointing it out.

my shepard was a colonist / sole survivor. his big claim to fame was not getting eaten by a thresher maw. maybe just suggesting he can run faster than the rest of his platoon did. not really that impressive honestly.

(colonist / sole survivor is the best origin btw, emotional scars )