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[snfonseka]

didymos1120 wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

The-Person wrote...

And was survivor or ruthless Shepard any more qualified?

Yea, they saved a god damn colony from total distruction.

No, that's War Hero Shepard.  Or were you talking about Eden Prime?  Didn't Ash help out a bit there?

Taking about EP and we can't count been a side-kick as a qualification for this.

[didymos1120]

GodWood wrote...

JoeClose wrote...
Unless Ashley has cleaned up her attitude problem, I seriously don't see how she could be an effective Spectre and take orders from the Citadel Council. She's a xenophobe.

-sigh-

1/ She's not a xenophobe
2/ Shepard can be played as a xenophobe

3/ Saren was a xenophobe, and considered one of the best Spectres, period.

I've said it before:  "Must love aliens" is not on the list of job requirements.

As far as Ash goes her being xenophobic is actually debatable.  It comes down to whether or not you personally find her distrust of aliens unreasonable.  For myself, I largely don't think it is unreasonable, and she's perfectly capable of reconsidering her views, so I wouldn't classify her as a xenophobe.  Others do find her views unreasonable, so from their POV, it's not incorrect to say she's xenophobic.  But even granting that she is for the sake of argument, I'd still say it's a very mild case.

[didymos1120]

snfonseka wrote...
Taking about EP and we can't count been a side-kick as a qualification for this.

Why not? Did she or did she not play a role in saving the colony?  Oh, and BTW: Shep was officially a "sidekick" right up until Saren capped Nihlus.

[Tilarta]

I don't think it's likely that Ashley will be/or should be a Spectre.

She's a good soldier, but I doubt she's even on Shepherd's level.

Plus, her "mess with me and I'll tell go to hell" attitude won't be exactly a strong case for her becoming a Spectre.

I wouldn't be surprised to discover that she's become an Alliance equivalent of a Spectre, but I won't believe she can actually be a real Spectre.

[Harmless Crunch]

Well Ash did save the galaxy with Shep....
If that dosent make you a Specter, I dont know what does.....

[Ziggy]

I'm all for Ash/Kaiden as a spectre.

They've got far better qualifications than shep had when she became one.

[Manic Sheep]

What’s with all this not on "Shepards level” crap? How arrogant.

[Ziggy]

double

Modifié par Em23, 23 avril 2011 - 08:55 .

[MGIII]

Manic Sheep wrote...

What’s with all this not on "Shepards level” crap? How arrogant.

They're really not.

[Tamahome560]

MGIII wrote...

Manic Sheep wrote...

What’s with all this not on "Shepards level” crap? How arrogant.

They're really not.

So what? Saren was the best Spectre. Which means that not every other Spectre was as good as him. Shepard is now the best Spectre. Does that mean that every other Spectre has to be as good? By the time of ME3 the VS could have much improved in every aspect and even though they will never be as good as Shep it does not mean that they cannot become good enough for a Spectre nomination.

[didymos1120]

MGIII wrote...

Manic Sheep wrote...

What’s with all this not on "Shepards level” crap? How arrogant.

They're really not.

Well, great.  Then they're not qualified to be Shepard.

[TwistedComplex]

Spoilers in the title

classy

[Commander AC]

Manic Sheep wrote...

What’s with all this not on "Shepards level” crap? How arrogant.

Indeed if every spectre was 'shepard's level' the galaxy would of already been saved twice over.
Also it might not just be ash as a spectre there could be a few human spectres working as a group to be more effective we just don't know the whole picture yet.

[corporal doody]

I PRAY this isnt true. some jerk in another forum posted a link to a scan from a Playstation 3 Magazine. It looks like the person that wrote did alot of speculating. one of them was about Ash/Kaidan. BS! dont let me down Bioware. no reason for either to be spectres...

if the council, original or human-led, wanted to deny and cover-up the truth surrounding the sacking of the citadel, why disband and seperate Shep's crew, yet still make one of them a spectre? SO they can publicly deny the existence of the Reapers while someone with experience dealing them investigates? Garrus would have been a far better choice. AND why, if they were Spectres, would the council let them investigate on Horizon? they tell Sheperd they cant get involved in something dealing solely with humans...so why send a human that represents the council to investigate? and not have Shep do it even after being reinstated?

I can see them as N7. so the alliance can keep an eye on them yet still get their usage. But spectre? no ways. If this is true..it will leave a serious sour taste in my mouth. It may be minor...but Ash/Kaidan arent anywhere near my fav...I would be extremely disheartened if this were true

[GodWood]

corporal doody wrote...
It may be minor...but Ash/Kaidan arent anywhere near my fav...I would be extremely disheartened if this were tru

Sooo, because the VS isn't your favourite character they shouldn't be a Spectre?

That's some queer logic bro

[snfonseka]

Em23 wrote...

I'm all for Ash/Kaiden as a spectre.

They've got far better qualifications than shep had when she became one.

Like what?

[Manic Sheep]

MGIII wrote...

Manic Sheep wrote...

What’s with all this not on "Shepards level” crap? How arrogant.

They're really not.

Oh right I forgot, no one is on Shepards level because Shepard is the player and thus the most awesome person in the galaxy. God forbid they ever make anyone equal to the player unless they are rival for you to eventually defeat and prove your better than them too. Especially not someone who was originally taking your orders.
Regardless they are just as qualified as Shepard was at the start of ME1. In fact maybe more so, they helped save the citadel. Not as awesome as Shepard does not mean they aren’t spectre material. If every spectre was as awsome as shepard the galaxy would have no problems.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 23 avril 2011 - 09:27 .

[snfonseka]

didymos1120 wrote...

snfonseka wrote...
Taking about EP and we can't count been a side-kick as a qualification for this.

Why not? Did she or did she not play a role in saving the colony?  Oh, and BTW: Shep was officially a "sidekick" right up until Saren capped Nihlus.

Not really, it was a field test for Shepard. The mission was Shepards'. Nihlus was there to monitor.

[M4N0FF4I7H]

corporal doody wrote...

I PRAY this isnt true. some jerk in another forum posted a link to a scan from a Playstation 3 Magazine. It looks like the person that wrote did alot of speculating. one of them was about Ash/Kaidan. BS! dont let me down Bioware. no reason for either to be spectres...

if the council, original or human-led, wanted to deny and cover-up the truth surrounding the sacking of the citadel, why disband and seperate Shep's crew, yet still make one of them a spectre? SO they can publicly deny the existence of the Reapers while someone with experience dealing them investigates? Garrus would have been a far better choice. AND why, if they were Spectres, would the council let them investigate on Horizon? they tell Sheperd they cant get involved in something dealing solely with humans...so why send a human that represents the council to investigate? and not have Shep do it even after being reinstated?

I can see them as N7. so the alliance can keep an eye on them yet still get their usage. But spectre? no ways. If this is true..it will leave a serious sour taste in my mouth. It may be minor...but Ash/Kaidan arent anywhere near my fav...I would be extremely disheartened if this were true

I feel sorry for you mate,first bioware punches a hole in your ego than the individuals chosen to stand next to you on the global stage aren't your favourites.

Modifié par BornFree87, 23 avril 2011 - 09:26 .

[MGIII]

Tamahome560 wrote...

MGIII wrote...

Manic Sheep wrote...

What’s with all this not on "Shepards level” crap? How arrogant.

They're really not.

So what? Saren was the best Spectre. Which means that not every other Spectre was as good as him. Shepard is now the best Spectre. Does that mean that every other Spectre has to be as good? By the time of ME3 the VS could have much improved in every aspect and even though they will never be as good as Shep it does not mean that they cannot become good enough for a Spectre nomination.

In ME2, the VS was nothing to write home about. They were sent out to some nowhere colony on a non-critical mission to install some turrets, which was in part manipulated by Cerberus just to draw the Collectors out.

So, in a few months after that, they're a Spectre. Must've been a badass two months. Nothing is impossible I suppose.

Also, I wasn't implying that they're not allowed to be Spectres just because they're inferior to Shepard. Someone said it was arrogant to state the completely true assessment that the VS is small potatoes next to Shepard, and I merely just reaffirmed that Shepard > VS.

I mean, let's review your A-team of galaxy saving heroes in ME-ME2.

Ashley: tech scores, crap assignments, likes quoting poetry.

Kaidan: formidable biotic, killed instructor.

Wrex: years of work as a mercenary, killed a freaking Thresher Maw, became leader of the strongest clan Krogan culture.

Tali: on her Pilgrimmage, accomplished tech specialist, accompanies Shep on both campaigns against the Reapers.

Liara: Catalyst to uncovering the location of the Conduit, most accomplished biotic in party, rescues Shep's body from the SB and Collectors, becomes accomplished information broker herself in a short time, takes out Shadow Broker and assumes that position.

Garrus: Nominated for Spectre training, takes on the most powerful gangs on Omega (for a short whille single-handedly) for fun, calibrates with the best of them.

Bioware is going to have to write a lot of badass into the VS to make their redundant, borderline uselessness--well--not redundant and borderline useless. A lot of exposition during those two years since the battle of the Citadel is going to have to be written and exposed.

Modifié par MGIII, 23 avril 2011 - 09:35 .

[corporal doody]

GodWood wrote...

corporal doody wrote...
It may be minor...but Ash/Kaidan arent anywhere near my fav...I would be extremely disheartened if this were tru

Sooo, because the VS isn't your favourite character they shouldn't be a Spectre?

That's some queer logic bro

I love it when people pick and choose. you read the rest?

it is minor, an inconsequentianal at this moment, as it is still speculation, compared to the awesomeness of Bioware...but it is to a big deal to me!

personally...i dont think anyone who has been in Shep's crew should be a Spectre till after ME3. I have no problems if they introduce a new squadmate that is a Spectre. Thats just me. I love my opinion.

[Praetor Knight]

snfonseka wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

snfonseka wrote...
Taking about EP and we can't count been a side-kick as a qualification for this.

Why not? Did she or did she not play a role in saving the colony?  Oh, and BTW: Shep was officially a "sidekick" right up until Saren capped Nihlus.

Not really, it was a field test for Shepard. The mission was Shepards'. Nihlus was there to monitor.

Well, before or after the video feed from a helm cam?

[GodWood]

MGIII wrote...
Liara: Catalyst to uncovering the location of the Conduit, most accomplished biotic in party, rescues Shep's body from the SB and Collectors, becomes accomplished information broker herself in a short time, takes out Shadow Broker and assumes that position.

What are you basing this on?
I'd figure Jack, Samara and Morinth are all superior biotics.

[Bluko]

Manic Sheep wrote...

What’s with all this not on "Shepards level” crap? How arrogant.

Wait you don't know?

Shepard is one of the few fighters in the galaxy with a power level...



OVER 9000!!!

[MGIII]

GodWood wrote...

MGIII wrote...
Liara: Catalyst to uncovering the location of the Conduit, most accomplished biotic in party, rescues Shep's body from the SB and Collectors, becomes accomplished information broker herself in a short time, takes out Shadow Broker and assumes that position.

What are you basing this on?
I'd figure Jack, Samara and Morinth are all superior biotics.

Relative to ME characters (I mean, I thought it was obvious considering Liara isn't a squadmate in ME2). And if you really want to get into it, gameplay wise, Liara's biotics >>> any other squadmember.