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 So I thought that sending Morrigan into the fade after freeing the blood mage was a good idea, but obviously everyone in my party did not (Alistair Im talking to you).  Anyone else take this route at the end of the Redcliffe quest line? Any backlash down the road?

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Rythuria

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I sent her in and had a good laugh at her dialogue choices, but my party consisted of Wynne/Dog/Morrigan. Only thing that happened was +2 Wynne approval.




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No repercussions for having Morrigan rescue the child. Her dialogue choices are pretty funny as well. Though I was a bit surprised at her ladyship not being highly annoyed with my pc sending her to the fade for what she probably thought an idiotic task.

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BluesMan1956

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The most serious repercussion I found with this quest is Alistair's reaction if you DON'T enlist the assistance of the Circle

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BluesMan1956 wrote...

The most serious repercussion I found with this quest is Alistair's reaction if you DON'T enlist the assistance of the Circle


Yeah that was pretty significant.....

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In my game Allistair only cared that I used the blood mage's plan. I didn't get any approval hit for sending in Morrigan specifically.

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No there isnt a penalty for sending the character in... But alistar's disapproval is huge (personally the woman annoyed me so much I preferred sacrificing her).

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Alistair didn't say anything against me sending Morrigan in because I had just gone through the whole Broken Circle quest to get the mages help just so I wouldn't have to kill Isolde. As a matter of fact I believe I got a huge approval boost from him afterwards upon returning to camp because I went out of my way to save everyone. I was suprised Morrigan didn't pitch a fit because I sent her in however.

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I don't remember Alistair having a problem with me sending Morrigan in. Could it be that you're confusing the reputation hit from using blood magic to get in with choosing to send Morrigan in?

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Yup. I'm still surprised that Morrigan didn't put up a fight about being sent in -- but it was interesting / amusing to hear her say, "Because I foolishly gave my word that I'd help..."

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Interesting thing about the fade and Morrigan.



When the desire demon tries to reason with her, Morrigan will have NONE of it. She says no way in hell is she going to be an abomination and starts fighting right away.



I was unsure about her until that moment. But she was really cool then.

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lol on my game play Alistar and Wynne are both Naked in the camp cos I use my dog, the assasin elf and Sten so my party has 2x Berzerker with 2handed weaps, 1x Intelligent&Furious animal and 1x Assasin Duelist. Imba I´d say

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imported_beer wrote...

Interesting thing about the fade and Morrigan.

When the desire demon tries to reason with her, Morrigan will have NONE of it. She says no way in hell is she going to be an abomination and starts fighting right away.

I was unsure about her until that moment. But she was really cool then.


Whenever she meets a spirit that gives her lip, she tells them where to stick it. Even the Guardian. It reminds me of Ser Otto in the orphanage and him demanding the [spoiler] show itself.

I wonder if force of personality/belief compels spirits.

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Mystranna Kelteel

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I love the way Shale tells the Guardian off. I also got the impression that Morrigan scared him a little. Tis interesting.



And considering how often Morrigan suggests siding with ritualists and blood mages for the promise of power, her denial of the desire demon struck me as a tad misplaced. Maybe she's just concerned for herself making deals and likes to watch the PC do it instead.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I love the way Shale tells the Guardian off. I also got the impression that Morrigan scared him a little. Tis interesting.

And considering how often Morrigan suggests siding with ritualists and blood mages for the promise of power, her denial of the desire demon struck me as a tad misplaced. Maybe she's just concerned for herself making deals and likes to watch the PC do it instead.


I'm not sure it's misplaced. I think Morrigan is willing to do a lot of things to get more power, except making deals with demons. She places even more importance on control than on power, and when you start making deals with spirits, there's always the possibilty of getting possessed. I think Morrigan does *not* want to become an abomination like her mother.

That aside, it did surprise me too when she didn't give you an approval loss for making her save the kid, but I think she sees the need of saving the kid to awaken earl Eamon. Besides, her annoyance at having to do something nice must have been counterbalanced by seeing Isolde die for it, which was well worth having to save an annoying kid imho.

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Maria Caliban wrote...
I wonder if force of personality/belief compels spirits.


There's a willpower based conversation option vs. a spirirt in the mage origin.  I'd assume there are a few more if you put enough points into willpower later instead of magic.

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Mystranna Kelteel

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I understand the risk of bargaining with demons and all. Maybe my thinking it misplaced was based on how easily the desire demon can be intimidated into giving her favors at no cost.

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Maria Caliban wrote...
Whenever she meets a spirit that gives her lip, she tells them where to stick it. Even the Guardian. It reminds me of Ser Otto in the orphanage and him demanding the [spoiler] show itself.

I wonder if force of personality/belief compels spirits.

Morrigan is certainly forceful.

But she is also nuanced. She will do everything to convey she is heartless (love is delusion, don't help people etc etc), but if you actually call her heartless  she is very offended.

Her banters are priceless.

I never thought I'd like her character as much as I did. But since everything I *do* leads to an approval loss, I keep her in camp and ply her with presents. Then after the quests are over, I take her with assorted party members and cross that bridge in Redcliffe to hear her talk. It is gruelling work.

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Maria Caliban

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Everything I do annoys her as well, but there are so many gifts in the game for her, I still ended at 97 approval. She's very useful, so it makes me happy.

None of the companions are shallow. I rather like that.

Also! *hugs* Good to see you around.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 19 novembre 2009 - 07:49 .


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Morrigan's morality also seems to kinda drift toward sympathizing with the individual's plight over the plight of the many.

Ala she is sympathetic to Jowan, but not the Circle. Also when the greedy merchant is under attack in Lothering- she takes his side.

I was a bit surprised when I took her into the fade and her reaction to the Desire Demon. But I suspect part of is Morrigan is quite happy with the power she has and thinks the power her mom has is of even greater value (perhaps more so than what any Demon could provide and without the caveats).


Like IBeer also stated...Morrigan is completely heartless :D

Modifié par Saurel, 19 novembre 2009 - 07:48 .


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Crusher Bob wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
I wonder if force of personality/belief compels spirits.


There's a willpower based conversation option vs. a spirirt in the mage origin.  I'd assume there are a few more if you put enough points into willpower later instead of magic.


That's interesting. Will have to try that on my mage playthough.

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I sent in Morrigan, I can't remember Alistair or anyone else not approve of this. I did sacrifice the mother though and Alistair was really mad about that afterwards. But I persuaded him that what I did was for the best. This thing didn't affect my overall relationship with Alistair I think, since I got him at a 100 early.

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I managed to save both Conner and Isolde and sent Morrigan in for that ritual. Even then, with no one dying, she didn't complain. So I think the point of her not minding because Isolde dies is moot.

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I got a -1 for sending her in.

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Morrigan doesn't object to going in to save Conner if you take the Saved the Circle/lyrium route.

She does, however, get a little pissy and zap you with a couple of disapproval points if you volunteer her for the Blood Magic ritual. She's annoyed that the Warden assumed (without asking her) that she would be willing to let Jowan send her into the Fade, but sarcastically agrees to go through with it as "your willing slave."