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[adlocutio]

N7 Vanguard wrote...

adlocutio wrote...

@ Sinnerous: But do you believe? i was inspired by your op to look up that radio host from the video, and I think I remember hearing him on the radio a few times at night when I used to travel a lot. Some pretty crazy theories. I always feel sorry for people who for whatever reasons have convinced themselves of some impending alien invasion or Armageddon. And I HATE the losers who exploit these poor people. Anyone who propagates lies to troubled and vulnerable people for their own material gain should be imprisoned, crime or not.

As if aliens are a lie. Some of that footage was pretty amazing to see. I don't think all of that could have been faked. The size of the universe or our galaxy alone should be evidence enough that there is intellegent life out there.

Oh no, I didn't mean all that was faked.  I was just talking about the unstable people who seriously believe all the crazy theories out there and those who exploit them.  I must be really bad at communicating today.  Of course, just because the footage might be real doesn't mean it was an alien spacecraft which made it.  We have dismissed those claims, after all.

[N7 Vanguard]

adlocutio wrote...

N7 Vanguard wrote...

adlocutio wrote...

@ Sinnerous: But do you believe? i was inspired by your op to look up that radio host from the video, and I think I remember hearing him on the radio a few times at night when I used to travel a lot. Some pretty crazy theories. I always feel sorry for people who for whatever reasons have convinced themselves of some impending alien invasion or Armageddon. And I HATE the losers who exploit these poor people. Anyone who propagates lies to troubled and vulnerable people for their own material gain should be imprisoned, crime or not.

As if aliens are a lie. Some of that footage was pretty amazing to see. I don't think all of that could have been faked. The size of the universe or our galaxy alone should be evidence enough that there is intellegent life out there.

Oh no, I didn't mean all that was faked.  I was just talking about the unstable people who seriously believe all the crazy theories out there and those who exploit them.  I must be really bad at communicating today.  Of course, just because the footage might be real doesn't mean it was an alien spacecraft which made it.  We have dismissed those claims, after all.

Ah yes, "Aliens."
Sorry I misread that first part. Yeah they could be jets or govement crafts but some of that just left me with that "wut" feeling.

Modifié par N7 Vanguard, 24 avril 2011 - 01:56 .

[Sinnerous]

adlocutio wrote...

@ Sinnerous: But do you believe? i was inspired by your op to look up that radio host from the video, and I think I remember hearing him on the radio a few times at night when I used to travel a lot. Some pretty crazy theories. I always feel sorry for people who for whatever reasons have convinced themselves of some impending alien invasion or Armageddon. And I HATE the losers who exploit these poor people. Anyone who propagates lies to troubled and vulnerable people for their own material gain should be imprisoned, crime or not.

I do honestly believe in Alien Life. Not only based on the weird phenomenons seen above in my link. But as in things left behind without proper reason. As in the shape of pyramids. Not sure if people know this but they make a perfect reflection of what is seen above sand. Making a Diamond shape, how would that be possible without the proper digging machinery? At that time it would be unheard of.  Or ancient drawings of people with deformed heads, all similar in different locations or Disc shaped objects in the sky. I don't believe we are in imminent danger of invasion. I believe "they" have been around for quite a while. I know I probably sound really crazy, but I wouldn't say I'm an Alien fanatic. I just keep an open mind to all possibilities. Knowing that we haven't been outside our solar system to explore each galaxy. Same way we are here, I cannot see why there wouldn't be life else where.

Modifié par Sinnerous, 24 avril 2011 - 02:48 .

[Eterna]

UFO sightings are fake, if Aliens really were capable of such technology we would have been contacted or destroyed by now.

Aliens do most likely exist, just not in the manner most people believe.

[Brendanoz]

Eterna5 wrote...

UFO sightings are fake, if Aliens really were capable of such technology we would have been contacted or destroyed by now.

Aliens do most likely exist, just not in the manner most people believe.

UFO sightings are fake, i hope you realise what a "UFO" stands for.

and how would you know what they would do/are capable of? yet more assumptions i see

[Nezzer]

I don't understand this UFO sightings. If the aliens are trying to be secretive, why the hell would they expose themselves that way with those big lights? Doesn't make sense. That's why I don't trust these UFO sightings.

[marshalleck]

DrDrCapone13 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

That music is horrible. What a silly video.

I don't know what to think of this video, but I found this particular post to be pretty funny. For those of you who don't know, the song in the video is "Lux Aeterna", done by Clint Mansell, who just so happens to be the composer for Mass Effect 3. If you think THAT music is horrible, I suggest you refrain from listening to the ME3 Soundtrack marshalleck. 

Hate to ruin your day but I already knew that. Clint Mansell has written more than just that ****ing song, you know? And much better ones at that. I'm not really worried about what he'll do with ME3, if The Fountain and Moon are any indicators of his approach to science fiction. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 24 avril 2011 - 05:02 .

[Eterna]

Brendanoz wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

UFO sightings are fake, if Aliens really were capable of such technology we would have been contacted or destroyed by now.

Aliens do most likely exist, just not in the manner most people believe.

UFO sightings are fake, i hope you realise what a "UFO" stands for.

and how would you know what they would do/are capable of? yet more assumptions i see

I meant UFO in terms of Alien space crafts,  If you want to believe that shinning lights in the sky are Alien spaceships then go right ahead, I can't change what you think.  nor will I try too.

Modifié par Eterna5, 24 avril 2011 - 06:04 .

[AlphaScrewySam]

The first one looks like someone shooped in an industrial light, you know, the ones with tube bulbs.

Edit: Also, I don't know who compiled this, but they're idiots if they honestly think people are going to take it seriously when they put sci-fi trailer music for a soundtrack. It seriously looks like a super-long trailer for a cloverfield/district 9 rip-off, especially the bit with the 'former employee'. That was the worst, the guy didn't even try not to sound like a conspiracy nut. The reaper looking one is creepy as **** though.

Modifié par AlphaScrewySam, 24 avril 2011 - 06:29 .

[mikkois]

Don't be an idiot marshalleck. I hate people who pretend to know everything when they clearly don't.

Modifié par mikkois, 24 avril 2011 - 06:46 .

[mikkois]

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Modifié par mikkois, 24 avril 2011 - 06:46 .

[The Spamming Troll]

Brendanoz wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

UFO sightings are fake, if Aliens really were capable of such technology we would have been contacted or destroyed by now.

Aliens do most likely exist, just not in the manner most people believe.

UFO sightings are fake, i hope you realise what a "UFO" stands for.

and how would you know what they would do/are capable of? yet more assumptions i see

do you really think you understand what an alien could or couldnt be because you saw ET or independance day?

the galaxy is so large and so many possabilities and varialbes could exist that your perception of what an alien is or isnt is about far off as anything youve ever imaginedd.

anyone who says aliens dont exist, doesnt have a imagination, or prolly still thinks the world is flat.

bah.

[Sinnerous]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

Brendanoz wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

UFO sightings are fake, if Aliens really were capable of such technology we would have been contacted or destroyed by now.

Aliens do most likely exist, just not in the manner most people believe.

UFO sightings are fake, i hope you realise what a "UFO" stands for.

and how would you know what they would do/are capable of? yet more assumptions i see

do you really think you understand what an alien could or couldnt be because you saw ET or independance day?

the galaxy is so large and so many possabilities and varialbes could exist that your perception of what an alien is or isnt is about far off as anything youve ever imaginedd.

anyone who says aliens dont exist, doesnt have a imagination, or prolly still thinks the world is flat.

bah.

^^^ This

[The Spamming Troll]

really, i feel bad for someone who thinkst that this is it.

[Dexi]

Eterna5 wrote...
 if Aliens really were capable of such technology we would have been contacted or destroyed by now.
 

Lol I love you people who think this... not really. 

Why do you think that Aliens capable of such technology would think the way we think, or in the limits we think? If these Aliens have this technology, we can compare them to the Reapers: "Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding."

We wouldn't understand ( we don't understand) what they'd want, why would they do what they do, because we're too primitive. 

We already know how "stupid" we are... We barely know anything about our own solar system, let alone what's outside it. Compare that knowledge with that of aliens capable of galactic traveling, and your comparing an ant's mind to a human. 

"There is a realm of existance so far beyond your own, you cannot even imagine it."

For all we know ( or don't know) the aliens could've been here from the start of our existance as a race, or not. 
Maybe they're waiting for us to evolve to a certain standard before wiping us ( maybe because they won't really "wipe" us, but harvest us, Reaper-fashion).

What do we know? What can we really say? 

Modifié par Dexi, 24 avril 2011 - 08:05 .

[Sinnerous]

Dexi wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
 if Aliens really were capable of such technology we would have been contacted or destroyed by now.
 

Lol I love you people who think this... not really. 

Why do you think that Aliens capable of such technology would think the way we think, or in the limits we think? If these Aliens have this technology, we can compare them to the Reapers: "Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding."

We wouldn't understand ( we don't understand) what they'd want, why would they do what they do, because we're too primitive. 

We already know how "stupid" we are... We barely know anything about our own solar system, let alone what's outside it. Compare that knowledge with that of aliens capable of galactic traveling, and your comparing an ant's mind to a human. 

"There is a realm of existance so far beyond your own, you cannot even imagine it."

For all we know ( or don't know) the aliens could've been here from the start of our existance as a race, or not. 
Maybe they're waiting for us to evolve to a certain standard before wiping us ( maybe because they won't really "wipe" us, but harvest us, Reaper-fashion).

What do we know? What can we really say? 

Do it the Commander Shepard way.

Modifié par Sinnerous, 24 avril 2011 - 08:42 .

[Praetor Knight]

I wonder if any of the phenomena has anything to do with increased cosmic radiation and decreased solar activity.



But the link to the video in the OP was cool nonetheless.


(and I've heard that call before)

[candidate88766]

I love how all 'sightings' seem to involve green humanoids and flying saucers, and that even in a world of mobile phone cameras and high definition all 'evidence' is incredibly grainy or blurry. 

And that phone call about 'extra-dimensional' beings: extra means beyond, outside in this case and we cannot observe something outside our 3 dimensional universe. Also, why can't people just appreciate that Area 51 is kept under wraps because it is a military base. No aliens, no conspiracy cover-ups, just that the US military likes keeping its projects secret.

Yes, there is almost certainly life beyond out Solar System. However, given how empty space is and just how far away other star systems are what do you really think the chance is that any aliens would adhere to the flying saucer cliche? Is it not infinetly more likely that any UFO is simply space debris or a merteorite or maybe even some military thing?

This video just seems like the sort of thing the Sun would report on. There were some cool images in it though.

No offense to anyone, but all this alien cover-up conspiracy nonsense just really annoys me.

Dexi wrote...

For all we know ( or don't know) the aliens could've been here from the start of our existance as a race, or not. 
Maybe they're waiting for us to evolve to a certain standard before wiping us ( maybe because they won't really "wipe" us, but harvest us, Reaper-fashion).

What do we know? What can we really say? 

If anything had been here since the start of our existence then surely they're no longer alien, they're just as native as humanity. Besides, there are some theories that the chemicals required for cellular life came from asteroids in the first place, thus making us all 'alien'.

Modifié par candidate88766, 24 avril 2011 - 01:30 .

[NKKKK]

May 21st, believe it

[marshalleck]

mikkois wrote...


Don't be an idiot marshalleck. I hate people who pretend to know everything when they clearly don't.

cool story bro

[sponge56]

I don't know about everyone else but all I saw there was lights, no spaceships or anything. Some of that spiralling stuff was pretty amazing, but surely a more logical explanation is that it they are comets, or other such things. Think of the Northern Lights, its something which look fantastical and other worldly but when analysed turns out to be perfectly logical. And to do with the phone call, he definitely sounds like he believes it, but then again he could be high. People on LSD are so convinced they can fly for example that they go and jump of buildings. And if 'aliens' really had got into the government do you really think that no one would come forward in these governments to warn everyone? Why would they even do that, any tactical or invasion data you could get would just be satellite analysis and listening into to every countries secure channels and broadcasts. Sounds more like a badly written Doctor Who plot than a credible threat.

[adlocutio]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

I wonder if any of the phenomena has anything to do with increased cosmic radiation and decreased solar activity.



But the link to the video in the OP was cool nonetheless.


(and I've heard that call before)

This is a good possibility, and I thank you for mentioning it, because I was trying to think of natural phenomena which could cause the appearance of moving lights, etc, without someone playing a trick or shopping the video.  The early astronauts while in space all described tiny fast moving lights in their vision even with their eyes closed, almost like little sparkles.  It turns out this was the effect of cosmic radiation which is normally blocked by the earth's em field.

The em field on earth is stable, but it does fluctuate, sometimes depending on solar activity, and, of course, even undergoes polar reversals and such, all of which could allow stray waves of cosmic radiation to enter the atmosphere and even appear in the visual spectrum.   The behaviour of these waves would indeed look quite wild to the naked eye.

Someone else made a point about the auroras, which is also insightful.  If you didn't know why they occurred, I'm sure an alien technology might seem a reasonable explanation.

[Sinnerous]

adlocutio wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

I wonder if any of the phenomena has anything to do with increased cosmic radiation and decreased solar activity.



But the link to the video in the OP was cool nonetheless.


(and I've heard that call before)

This is a good possibility, and I thank you for mentioning it, because I was trying to think of natural phenomena which could cause the appearance of moving lights, etc, without someone playing a trick or shopping the video.  The early astronauts while in space all described tiny fast moving lights in their vision even with their eyes closed, almost like little sparkles.  It turns out this was the effect of cosmic radiation which is normally blocked by the earth's em field.

The em field on earth is stable, but it does fluctuate, sometimes depending on solar activity, and, of course, even undergoes polar reversals and such, all of which could allow stray waves of cosmic radiation to enter the atmosphere and even appear in the visual spectrum.   The behaviour of these waves would indeed look quite wild to the naked eye.

Someone else made a point about the auroras, which is also insightful.  If you didn't know why they occurred, I'm sure an alien technology might seem a reasonable explanation.

I haven't heard many people use that in a debate on UFO's in a while.

[adlocutio]

Here we are: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasmoid

Make your own plasmoid (but don't, you might tango uniform the microwave): http://www.viddler.c...fly/videos/137/

That reaper-like image @ 8minutes from the OP video looks remarkably like this shape:
http://en.wikipedia....le:Plasmoid.jpg

Not saying ball lightning explains everything, but the truth is that the way solar and cosmic radiation interact with the earth's magnetosphere is not fully understood, so there are possibilities beyond aliens to explain behaviour of lights in the sky.  The problem with the alien tech theory is that there is rarely any physical object associated with these sightings.  If there is it is almost always explainable by conventional aircraft, falling meteors, satellites, or debris, or it is a provable hoax. 

Also, we should consider that the  spectrum of radiation visible to humans is a relatively small part of the overall spectrum.  If we saw it all, it would look like a bad acid trip with swirling, twisting lights ranging through all colors.  Anything which can make these normally invisible effects visible would naturally seem otherworldly and unexplainable.  But many of  these things are always present, we just don't see them.

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Modifié par adlocutio, 25 avril 2011 - 12:22 .