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[Xewaka]

highcastle wrote...
Gameplay and story segregation, guys.

That is not a justification. It is a problem that needs to be fixed.

[maxernst]

Yes, I think the "mage police" would have been a good idea for public spellcasting, if the game mechanics allowed spellcasters to use regular weapons. Otherwise, you'd have to prevent your mages from acting in combat. Of course, you could also just not have Hawke constantly assailed by suicidal mooks in public places for no apparent reason.

One other comment:  I found it interesting that Bethany is able to receive visitors (Hawke's mother) and exchange letters.  Special privileges for high-class mages, something arranged through bribes to sympathetic templars (Thrask?). 

Modifié par maxernst, 15 juin 2011 - 01:14 .

[frustratemyself]

Rifneno wrote...

...Anyway I think the best way they could've went about Hawke's using magic is to make Hawke a mage no matter what.  Before anyone throws a chair at me, giving the option of having Hawke play as a warrior or rogue and kind of be in denial of his/her magery (is that a word?).  So they could still do the "omg, Hawke's a mage!  get him/her/it!" twists while still letting you play whatever class you wanted.

This would have been very cool and a very plausible way for Hawke to have avoided templar notice for so long. From one of the codex entries on the mage gear DLC Malcolm Hawke seems to have done this to a degree as a way to hide in plain sight.

It could have also opened up for cross class specialisations. Even though the old arcane warrior couldn't hit the broad side of a barn it had such potential.

But to the OP Varric is a bro so it's very likely that he would have had a hand in helping Hawke and Beth stay out of templar notice.

[RangerSG]

Trelnam wrote...

A bit off topic to that,but I find it quite funny that if you make a group with 4 mage(or even 1 is enough tho) and walk around templers with your staffs and robes like other mages,yet they dont even respond to that.So not sure if Varric has role in that but its a logical to think that way too.

Lots of peasants wear robes, and staffs are the common peasant weapon. So this is a false, but common, player assumption.

In fact, I've always thought it would be funny to have a quest where the Templars hire you to bring in a mage, and you grab a guy with a staff. Then when you arrive they crush the player for falsely arresting some wandering slob.

Staves are common to mages because they're SIMPLE weapons ANYONE can use, a weapon that doesn't need years of specialized training like a sword or bow.

As for the OP: I've always thought Varric was using his bribes to help Hawke through Acts 1 & 2. And the people who say, "Bribes can't influence the Templars" are ignoring the fact that Varric tells you more than once he's bribing for Daisy and Blondy, so yes, they can.

Modifié par RangerSG, 15 juin 2011 - 01:28 .

[Mickespel]

Trelnam wrote...

As for the OP: I've always thought Varric was using his bribes to help Hawke through Acts 1 & 2. And the people who say, "Bribes can't influence the Templars" are ignoring the fact that Varric tells you more than once he's bribing for Daisy and Blondy, so yes, they can.

He bribes thugs to not rob Merril during her nightly strolls in Lowtown and the Cotire to ignore Anders clinic in Darktown. He could have bribed some templars on top of that but we do not know. It is entirily possible that some templars knew and figured that "considering how many blodmages this Hawke kills we let him be for now".

[lobi]

Oh yeah, he can bribe all of kirkwall but cannot raise the extra 50 for the expedition. I am going to bed.

[LobselVith8]

rma2110 wrote...

I have a theory, and no it's not bunnies. Not this time anyway. I think it's Varric that proects Mage!HawkeBethany from the templars. We all know he throws money around to protect Daisy and he would happily do the same for Sunshine. It's not a coinsidence that the templars pounce on poor Bethany the minute Varric is away in the deep roads.

Whay say you guys? Is Varric the possible source of Hawke's priviledge before becooming Kirkwall's Champion? Why was Bethany arrested but Merill left alone? I love Merill and would never wish the Circle on any mage, but Merill is clearly the more dangerous mage.

The writers never bothered to address why guardsmen and templars witness Hawke using magic, and no one reacts to it, even Cullen, who says mages can't be treated like people and are weapons. Basically, we get this instead:

[Dragonella1]

Possible explanation for Templars' Hawke blindness is that they were so sure of themselves that they assumed that no apostate would be bald (stupid) enough to use magic in their presence. Something like:
Hawke - uses spells
Templar – Have I seen a fireball...no...impossible nobody would dare, just when I'm watching. It's simply my imagination or too much of the Hanged Man special last night.
Or
Hawke – uses blood magic
Cullen – Blood magic! He's a malificarum. No, no he wouldn't be so stupid to use it just in front of me. It's all Meredith's influence I'm starting to see a malificarum round every corner I should take a few days off.