This thread has really exploded since last time.
For what it's worth, I don't think it's fruitful to bring 'feminism' into this, particularly not as a scapegoat. It's become a very broad umbrella which accommodates a variety of people from honest-to-god sincere civil rights activists to the kind of people who think that "Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience."[1], so as a label "feminist" is diluted and useless. If you identify yourself as a 'feminist' you're probably the kind of person who thinks that the resulting misunderstandings are always the fault of the other person for not knowing that 'your brand' of feminism is the 'correct one' (in your mind).
[1] Catherine Comins, Vassar College Assistant Dean of Student Life
Men aren't being sexually objectified like women are in the media. Most
of those images are actually made for the male audience as an image of
what a "man" should be
This post is highly illustrative of what the underlying problem is. When a circumstance C applies to groups A and B independently, it should be intuitively understood that any consequence to A is also a consequence to B.
Instead, what happens is that any circumstance applied to women is explained as indicating oppression of women, while the same circumstance when it applies to men is said to indicate male superiority.
Case in point, magazines "give the female audience an image of what a woman should be". Outside of this thread I'll tell you almost anyone will say that's "trying to control what 'women should be' and therefore sexist". But when you put men in the exact same situation where you're dictating to men what they're supposed to be, bam, "no, it's actually helpful for men". Sure.
This has been a good thread for me, thanks in particular to a few posters. It's hard to believe the amount of "why shouldn't the characters look good" and "why are you complaining about the breasts" when, specifically to avoid that, I explicitly said in the OP this thread had nothing to do with the old breast-size complaints. I'm not a feminist or a gender studies student, and how you'd get that idea to begin with is beyond me because they'd probably disagree with me on everything, violently. Personally, I think this thread's peaked and it's all downhill from here, time to euthanize.
See you next mission.