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[OmegaXI]

Why is it no one has gotten better use out of the Mages, I mean in a world of competing Kindoms and such why hasn't anyone put the mages to work?

Imagine how much steel you could produce from having a group of mages work at foundary?
I can see how their afraid of them and everything but fire is also pretty fearsome but hey has its uses, some one could out fit an entire army fast with some mages using their powers to make things instead of just healing and killing things. And there has to be atleast a few mages out there with a business sense to make buck of their abilities.

That or get a group of mages at a hospital to heal people I mean they could get some many different uses out of mages free or enslaved. just stricks me as a waste of humans and  resources.

With their abilities they could kick start a strange type of industrial revolution with magic.

Modifié par OmegaXI, 23 avril 2011 - 06:13 .

[IanPolaris]

In a word: Power.

The Chantry has a sweet little system set up where they can monopolize all the magical power in Thedas and hold it over the rest of Thedas like a sword (along with it's own private army) while at the same time demonizing magic to the outside poisoining any chance for mages to tell their side of it.

It's a Chantry Power Play.

-Polaris

[TheKristoffski]

I guess it would never happen so long as the templars and chantry where around, they would never allow that many of mages to rise at all, and too many mages cannot be trusted as they make deals with demons and become abominitations and such, but i understand what you mean maybe there are places like that in the dragon age universe...

[TobiTobsen]

Would also be interesting to know how the lucrosians operate. Just through the tranquil and their shops?

[KnightofPhoenix]

The rise of nations and the fall of the Chantry will likely lead to a better and more pragmatic usage of mages as a resource.

[LobselVith8]

OmegaXI wrote...

Why is it no one has gotten better use out of the Mages, I mean in a world of competing Kindoms and such why hasn't anyone put the mages to work?

Imagine how much steel you could produce from having a group of mages work at foundary?
I can see how their afraid of them and everything but fire is also pretty fearsome but hey has its uses, some one could out fit an entire army fast with some mages using their powers to make things instead of just healing and killing things. And there has to be atleast a few mages out there with a business sense to make buck of their abilities.

That or get a group of mages at a hospital to heal people I mean they could get some many different uses out of mages free or enslaved. just stricks me as a waste of humans and  resources.

With their abilities they could kick start a strange type of industrial revolution with magic.

You bring up some interesting points, but there's another issue where the mages could be of use for the good of all sentient races in Thedas. They could try doing something about that slight darkspawn problem. You know, the race of malevolent creatures that took over nearly all the Great Thaigs that run the span of the entire continent of Thedas. I suppose they have better things to do, though.

[OmegaXI]

IanPolaris wrote...

In a word: Power.

The Chantry has a sweet little system set up where they can monopolize all the magical power in Thedas and hold it over the rest of Thedas like a sword (along with it's own private army) while at the same time demonizing magic to the outside poisoining any chance for mages to tell their side of it.

It's a Chantry Power Play.

-Polaris

I wonder if the Imperiums Chantry is different and if the imperium or qunari use mages in such a way to be useful to their Kingdom or State. And I wonder why the Chantry hasn't done this at all with all their saying "Magic exists to serve man not rule over man". Keeping the mages in the towers doing things like this or having them at their Chantry buildings healing people sounds like it would have increased the Chantrys power and influence alot. But maybe they dropped the ball on that one. Wonder if any none chantry nations took this approach and kicked off a mage industral revolution type thing.

and yes I know I wonder alot lol

Modifié par OmegaXI, 23 avril 2011 - 06:29 .

[OmegaXI]

I mean in DA2 when my mage hawke first owned half the mine I was hoping this would happen next but the other owner must not of had such a good business sense has he thought.

[Wulfram]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The rise of nations and the fall of the Chantry will likely lead to a better and more pragmatic usage of mages as a resource.

Conquering other nations?

[LobselVith8]

King Alistair is harboring apostates and still fighting for the Magi boon, and he notes that he can only do something about the mages outside of the Circle as opposed to those inside, so he might be taking the first steps towards an industrial revolution with magic.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Wulfram wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The rise of nations and the fall of the Chantry will likely lead to a better and more pragmatic usage of mages as a resource.

Conquering other nations?

One of their potential uses, yes. Why not.

[OmegaXI]

Wulfram wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The rise of nations and the fall of the Chantry will likely lead to a better and more pragmatic usage of mages as a resource.

Conquering other nations?

That or making the lives of their own people better, A farmer in the country whose cattle get sick  could have a healing mage go out and heal his livestock so he doesn't lose his herd and the people in the city don't go hungry. If theres a drought then a mage can make ice that can be melted by the heat to water crops.

Mages in hospitals to heal or help the sick and wounded, and the list goes on. With mage labor combined with regular labor a Kindom or Empire could take such great advantage of using them in many different aspects military, economy, socially, and it would keep mages busy so not to make trouble and give them a place in society as a whole. This would work both in the mages that were free or under the watchful eye of the Chantry or chained and shackled like the Qunari. And if the circle did this they would have had another reason why circle mages were better than non circle mages.

[Satyricon331]

This question's been an issue for me ever since I heard in DAO that Tevinter used magic to help build all those mammoth stone buildings and roads. The obvious explanation is just that the Chantry doesn't want the people to lose their hate/fear of mages, which in turn helps the Chantry keep its control over mages. All the other explanations I can think of have flaws. If so then Ferelden's example could really change things if Anora/Alistair use the apostates wisely, although the war might make constructive public use of magery infeasible for now.

[Crossroads_Wanderer]

It would require freedom for mages for them to be able to exercise their abilities in that fashion. As it is, the Chantry doesn't allow mages much exercise of their powers and mages probably wouldn't want to work for oppressive overlords. If mages were freed, they'd have to find jobs the same way everyone else would, so they would want to use their magical advantages to ensure that they would never be out of work. And employers would probably want to hire mages because they could work so much more efficiently that it would give an edge over any competition not using mages. Therefore, the Industrial Revolution of Thedas is probably just waiting on the mages to be freed from Chantry control.

[OldMan91]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The rise of nations and the fall of the Chantry will likely lead to a better and more pragmatic usage of mages as a resource.

My oh-so-pragmatic friend, you and I are of one mind on this. You are entirely correct.

[OmegaXI]

LobselVith8 wrote...

OmegaXI wrote...

Why is it no one has gotten better use out of the Mages, I mean in a world of competing Kindoms and such why hasn't anyone put the mages to work?

Imagine how much steel you could produce from having a group of mages work at foundary?
I can see how their afraid of them and everything but fire is also pretty fearsome but hey has its uses, some one could out fit an entire army fast with some mages using their powers to make things instead of just healing and killing things. And there has to be atleast a few mages out there with a business sense to make buck of their abilities.

That or get a group of mages at a hospital to heal people I mean they could get some many different uses out of mages free or enslaved. just stricks me as a waste of humans and  resources.

With their abilities they could kick start a strange type of industrial revolution with magic.

You bring up some interesting points, but there's another issue where the mages could be of use for the good of all sentient races in Thedas. They could try doing something about that slight darkspawn problem. You know, the race of malevolent creatures that took over nearly all the Great Thaigs that run the span of the entire continent of Thedas. I suppose they have better things to do, though.

Maybe if the Grey Wardens took this approach they cold gain enough of an advantage to go on a larger offense in the Deep Roads, I don't see any reasons why they wouldn't; all it would take would be an angry dwarf craftmen with some coin, some casteless for labor (maybe soldiers) and some mages and you have yourself a a well supplied armory and such. And the grey wardens use mages for whatever they need their skill for outside of the chantry's grasp

[hoorayforicecream]

OmegaXI wrote...

Why is it no one has gotten better use out of the Mages, I mean in a world of competing Kindoms and such why hasn't anyone put the mages to work?

Imagine how much steel you could produce from having a group of mages work at foundary?
I can see how their afraid of them and everything but fire is also pretty fearsome but hey has its uses, some one could out fit an entire army fast with some mages using their powers to make things instead of just healing and killing things. And there has to be atleast a few mages out there with a business sense to make buck of their abilities.

That or get a group of mages at a hospital to heal people I mean they could get some many different uses out of mages free or enslaved. just stricks me as a waste of humans and  resources.

With their abilities they could kick start a strange type of industrial revolution with magic.

This is pretty much exactly what the Qunari do with their Saarebas. 

[OmegaXI]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The rise of nations and the fall of the Chantry will likely lead to a better and more pragmatic usage of mages as a resource.

Wouldn't that be the kicker if thats the change Morgan was talking about

[Aggie Punbot]

OmegaXI wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The rise of nations and the fall of the Chantry will likely lead to a better and more pragmatic usage of mages as a resource.

Wouldn't that be the kicker if thats the change Morgan was talking about

Who is Morgan?