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Wait, so ME2 was entirely pointless then?


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Metal Mills

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Ok, I thought in Mass Effect 1 the characters were a great stepping stone, They were pretty good, and had lots of room to expand. Then ME2 comes out and says the teams split up. Err, ok then that kinda sucks but fear not! The reason behind it is you need to build a team of the best of the best. This isn't just a crew anymore, it's a team! And because of that there was basically no core story progression in ME2 it was all character based. Well, fine you got your elite team. But now...the elite team has split up AGAIN? Why? I can understand wanting new characters but why make an entire game about forming a team, without the core story around it, and split it up in the next game? I mean basically, ME2 was pointless, everything you did in that game will have no big effect, aside from the save import stuff which won't change the game too much.

Who were the best characters in ME2? Garrus and Tali, who were the only character who followed into ME2 from the original? Garrus and Tali.

Am I the only one who finds this odd?



Person: Man, ME1 had some cool characters.

Bioware: Damn right!

Person: So we'll be using them in ME2?

Bioware: Umm, not really, you've all split up.

Person: Oh...

Bioware: But it's ok! Because we're making the BEST team ever of the best characters we can muster! In fact this team is so important the entire game is dedicated to it, the core story is barely present!

Person: Wow! Really? So THAT team we'll be using for later games, I get it now. Yeah, build the team, use them in ME3 for the core story.

Bioware: Well, no, that team broke up too.

Person: Then WTF was Mass Effect 2 about?

Modifié par Metal Mills, 23 avril 2011 - 08:45 .


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AlbertoAquilani

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No one knows until they play and complete ME 3.

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You're assuming the team has broken up...

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I gotta agree, it seems stupid. However, the team did all have their reasons for leaving... mostly.

Thane was dying. Samara said she'd leave and continue her life as a Justicar-- possibly go to Omega and be the new Archangel. Grunt was likely needed back on Tuchanka. Mordin was nearing the age limit for his people. Jack... well, she's Jack. Tali would have gone back to the Flotilla most likely.

The only people I can't really see leaving are Legion, Miranda, Jacob and Garrus. Though Miranda MIGHT leave so she could protect her sister, so knock her out of that list. That leaves three squaddies that likely have no reason to leave.

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Well Samara, Kasumi and Zaeed were hinted to leave.

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Urdnot Orrad wrote...

I gotta agree, it seems stupid. However, the team did all have their reasons for leaving... mostly.

Thane was dying. Samara said she'd leave and continue her life as a Justicar-- possibly go to Omega and be the new Archangel. Grunt was likely needed back on Tuchanka. Mordin was nearing the age limit for his people. Jack... well, she's Jack. Tali would have gone back to the Flotilla most likely.

The only people I can't really see leaving are Legion, Miranda, Jacob and Garrus. Though Miranda MIGHT leave so she could protect her sister, so knock her out of that list. That leaves three squaddies that likely have no reason to leave.


Samara said there were multiple things she could do, after the suicide mission (provided that she survives it), such as going to Omega, going to Tuchanka, or helping Shepard (if his alignment is the right way).

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We still got Garrus and Legion.........right??

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I'll just wait more to say anything.

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The mission was over so what point is there for the team to stay together.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Urdnot Orrad wrote...

I gotta agree, it seems stupid. However, the team did all have their reasons for leaving... mostly.

Thane was dying. Samara said she'd leave and continue her life as a Justicar-- possibly go to Omega and be the new Archangel. Grunt was likely needed back on Tuchanka. Mordin was nearing the age limit for his people. Jack... well, she's Jack. Tali would have gone back to the Flotilla most likely.

The only people I can't really see leaving are Legion, Miranda, Jacob and Garrus. Though Miranda MIGHT leave so she could protect her sister, so knock her out of that list. That leaves three squaddies that likely have no reason to leave.


Samara said there were multiple things she could do, after the suicide mission (provided that she survives it), such as going to Omega, going to Tuchanka, or helping Shepard (if his alignment is the right way).

If I recall, she said "All you will need to do is call on me, and I shall help you" Or something along those lines. That implies that she wouldn't be in his squad, but still available for a Big Damn Heroes moment.

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Dante Angelo wrote...

We still got Garrus and Legion.........right??


I hope so. Garrus and Legion were two of my favorites.

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Urdnot Orrad wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Urdnot Orrad wrote...

I gotta agree, it seems stupid. However, the team did all have their reasons for leaving... mostly.

Thane was dying. Samara said she'd leave and continue her life as a Justicar-- possibly go to Omega and be the new Archangel. Grunt was likely needed back on Tuchanka. Mordin was nearing the age limit for his people. Jack... well, she's Jack. Tali would have gone back to the Flotilla most likely.

The only people I can't really see leaving are Legion, Miranda, Jacob and Garrus. Though Miranda MIGHT leave so she could protect her sister, so knock her out of that list. That leaves three squaddies that likely have no reason to leave.


Samara said there were multiple things she could do, after the suicide mission (provided that she survives it), such as going to Omega, going to Tuchanka, or helping Shepard (if his alignment is the right way).

If I recall, she said "All you will need to do is call on me, and I shall help you" Or something along those lines. That implies that she wouldn't be in his squad, but still available for a Big Damn Heroes moment.


Yes, that is what she said, but you made it seem as if her departure was final, and that she would have no reason to appear, again.  She does have a reason.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Urdnot Orrad wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Urdnot Orrad wrote...

I gotta agree, it seems stupid. However, the team did all have their reasons for leaving... mostly.

Thane was dying. Samara said she'd leave and continue her life as a Justicar-- possibly go to Omega and be the new Archangel. Grunt was likely needed back on Tuchanka. Mordin was nearing the age limit for his people. Jack... well, she's Jack. Tali would have gone back to the Flotilla most likely.

The only people I can't really see leaving are Legion, Miranda, Jacob and Garrus. Though Miranda MIGHT leave so she could protect her sister, so knock her out of that list. That leaves three squaddies that likely have no reason to leave.


Samara said there were multiple things she could do, after the suicide mission (provided that she survives it), such as going to Omega, going to Tuchanka, or helping Shepard (if his alignment is the right way).

If I recall, she said "All you will need to do is call on me, and I shall help you" Or something along those lines. That implies that she wouldn't be in his squad, but still available for a Big Damn Heroes moment.


Yes, that is what she said, but you made it seem as if her departure was final, and that she would have no reason to appear, again.  She does have a reason.


Nah, not what I meant. I simply said that she had a reason (or reasons) to leave the squad, not "leave the squad and never return".

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Urdnot Orrad wrote...

Dante Angelo wrote...

We still got Garrus and Legion.........right??


I hope so. Garrus and Legion were two of my favorites.

Well supposedly Garrus returns but I'm still unsure about Legion

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IrishSpectre257 wrote...

You're assuming the team has broken up...


That actually happens in the middle of the game, if some articles can be believed.

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As long as Thane, Miranda are in as well, I'll be happy. And possibly Grunt & Samara.

Along with Mordin, Garrus, Tali, Legion who are already confirmed.

Especially Thane, he's one of the more interesting characters to me, I definitely want some closure. I don't want to assume that he's actually dead, that'd be pretty annoying.

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AlbertoAquilani wrote...

As long as Thane, Miranda are in as well, I'll be happy. And possibly Grunt & Samara.

Along with Mordin, Garrus, Tali, Legion who are already confirmed.

Especially Thane, he's one of the more interesting characters to me, I definitely want some closure. I don't want to assume that he's actually dead, that'd be pretty annoying.


They're confirmed... to appear in the game. The only one of that group that is a confirmed squaddie is Garrus, provided he survived the SM.

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Yes.

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Urdnot Orrad wrote...

AlbertoAquilani wrote...

As long as Thane, Miranda are in as well, I'll be happy. And possibly Grunt & Samara.

Along with Mordin, Garrus, Tali, Legion who are already confirmed.

Especially Thane, he's one of the more interesting characters to me, I definitely want some closure. I don't want to assume that he's actually dead, that'd be pretty annoying.


They're confirmed... to appear in the game. The only one of that group that is a confirmed squaddie is Garrus, provided he survived the SM.


I guess that's what I meant. At least we'll get some sort of closure with these characters, even if we only get to spend a bit of time with them. I'd be royally pissed if we didn't get to see Thane again and didn't have at least one mission with him.

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IrishSpectre257 wrote...

You're assuming the team has broken up...


"Hudson also announced that the team Commander Shepard assembled during ME2 has fallen apart by the time of ME3"

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It really seems like BioWare had enough plot for two games rather than three, and the middle one was created for the sole purpose of turning the series into a trilogy.

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The team we gathered in ME2 was for solving the mystery of the missing colonies and taking down the Collectors, which we did.

Mission's over, everyone can go along their merry way.

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ME and ME2 were the best games i have ever played. Love them. I was in the middle of writting a long letter to Bioware where i was saying how much they did accomplish. I also wrote some of my ideas. But whats the point? Nobody cares. Nobody will read it. I am sorry to say this but not having a whole team in ME3 is kind of a deal breaker for me. It is sad that nobody even fans dont care about it. We spend hundreds of hours gaining their loyality. Some of those squad memebers (for me all of them) became close to our heart. But now? I expected a big team. Yes all of them to join in the last mission. Not to mention that ME3 ends Shephards story ( from my point of the view a bad move but maybe necessary). But not having the full team not even a option to gain them again is sad and kind of stupid. Again what concerns me the most many of the fans dont care enough to say something about this situation or even they dont want the whole team. I understand that many of you dont agree with me but this is my opinion and i am glad that i have taken this out of my chest.

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I had fun playing ME2... not as much as with ME1 but still. Maybee that was the point of it? Nah, that would be raddichio, a game that's fun to play.

Storywise? You did some quite important choices it would seem (unless ME3 plans to follow the retcon road). Spoiling ME2: You had to chose Legion's fate, Tali's fate, tell the Quarians your opinion on fighting the Geth - those decisions sound like they could affect what happens in the Geth vs. Quarian conflict. You got to decide if the genophage cure was to be developed further or destroyed. You had the chance to give a doomsday weapon to a madman or destroy it. I'm pretty satisfied with that if BioWare can follow those threads.

Only a hater can say that the game was pointless to the series. That statment doesn't make sense if you even try to think about it for a while.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 23 avril 2011 - 09:25 .


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yes Me2 was pretty much pointless

Modifié par Torhagen, 23 avril 2011 - 09:24 .