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If Jack's redesign is something like this:
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or this:
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or this:
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or even this:
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I wouldn't mind the change

Modifié par Les_Carver, 24 juin 2011 - 12:54 .


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slimgrin

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Dangerfoot wrote...

I really hope people are kidding about her needing bigger boobs.


No, I'm not. She's flat as a board. Let's embellish a bit here.

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slimgrin wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

I really hope people are kidding about her needing bigger boobs.


No, I'm not. She's flat as a board. Let's embellish a bit here.

Why?

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Les_Carver, those are some pretty good options. All suit what Jack could become.

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Dangerfoot wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

I really hope people are kidding about her needing bigger boobs.


No, I'm not. She's flat as a board. Let's embellish a bit here.

Why?


The only reason they made her as flat as they did was so they could put nothing but straps over her ******. I say cover her up a bit more and give her more womanly attributes, including a larger bust. For aesthetics.

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Les_Carver wrote...

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This...is how I'd imagine her looking in ME3.

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Based on what information we have on her appearance that's not how she'll look.
She'll have an undercut of sorts.

slimgrin wrote...
The only reason they made her as flat as they did was so they could put nothing but straps over her ******. I say cover her up a bit more and give her more womanly attributes, including a larger bust. For aesthetics.

>.>
She's like a C-cup, hardly flat at all.
Personally I'd make her more flat just to personalise her figure a bit.

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Put a hole in her head, give her a body bag, and call it a day.

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I'll never get the "bigger boobs = more aesthetic" crowd. It's not like there are no characters with big breasts, quite the opposite in fact. I don't really have a perfect, ideal way that I want women to look, but if I did I still wouldn't want ever character model in the game to have that figure. Varied models make characters feel more real.

Besides, I think reasonably small breasts kind of suit Jack's character. She's not an incredibly feminine person, so why give her a sexualized, ideal feminine body?

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Her alternate outfit (unlocked by loyalty) was good enough for me.

Maybe give her a cap like Joker's.

I.. I like caps...

Modifié par Antivenger, 24 juin 2011 - 04:08 .


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Dangerfoot wrote...

I'll never get the "bigger boobs = more aesthetic" crowd. It's not like there are no characters with big breasts, quite the opposite in fact. I don't really have a perfect, ideal way that I want women to look, but if I did I still wouldn't want ever character model in the game to have that figure. Varied models make characters feel more real.

Besides, I think reasonably small breasts kind of suit Jack's character. She's not an incredibly feminine person, so why give her a sexualized, ideal feminine body?


She barely has any breasts at all. There's nothing there. I'm not asking for DDD here. Just make her look like a woman. Like I said, they didn't want to flatten larger boobs against straps, so she got nothing.


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slimgrin wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...

I'll never get the "bigger boobs = more aesthetic" crowd. It's not like there are no characters with big breasts, quite the opposite in fact. I don't really have a perfect, ideal way that I want women to look, but if I did I still wouldn't want ever character model in the game to have that figure. Varied models make characters feel more real.

Besides, I think reasonably small breasts kind of suit Jack's character. She's not an incredibly feminine person, so why give her a sexualized, ideal feminine body?


She barely has any breasts at all. There's nothing there. I'm not asking for DDD here. Just make her look like a woman. Like I said, they didn't want to flatten larger boobs against straps, so she got nothing.


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Because only real women have C cups.  They can't have B or A cup busts , correct?  For a long time I've dropped the whole bigger breast size is better mentality.  All I care about is that she was born female.  If she's flat, AA, A, B, C, I don't care.  I do have an issue with Ds and larger, but that's because I hate the idea of fake anything and D size busts on a slim figure give me the idea that they're fake.

Leave Jack's breasts as they are.  I don't need her to be bigger so I don't confuse her for a guy.

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Oy, even A cups look and feel like something. To say she has nothing, and doesn't look like a woman is just silly. Some women have smaller breasts, do we seriously need our games to have a minimum breast size of C? Because I'm pretty sure every single person who's ever played ME2 has understood that Jack is a female.

If Bioware panders to people who think that women aren't women unless they're packing C or D cups, then I'm done with Bioware. Thankfully I won't have to boycott them because they aren't quite that juvenile.

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RainyDayLover wrote...

Les_Carver wrote...

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This...is how I'd imagine her looking in ME3.



Aw. Ew. No, please. Maybe it's just the anime-ish art style but this is not doin' it for me. Also, Jack shouldn't have skin-tight clothes. Her boots should be half as high and maybe have some cargo pants that are tucked into the boots. I think that would suit her better.

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I'm sick of soft female characters, they better replace her with a female Krogan Battlemaster...


I would rather have a more sane Jack that isn't focused on destroying the universe.

Still ready to kill, but not the Jack that is willing to destroy everything good due to a particularly horrible life.  We don't want a superpowered Aileen Wuornos in a team defending the galaxy.

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Travie wrote...

Miranda butt transplant.

Just sayin.


No.  Miranda's derriere isn't the most attractive backside ever seen.  In fact, it's pretty unattractive to me. 

This is better: http://media.photobu...e_koeppe_46.jpg

If we're going to reduce women to their body parts.

Modifié par Xeranx, 24 juin 2011 - 05:23 .


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Wasn't a huge fan of her character in ME2, so I'm hoping for more maturity and mental conflict in ME3.

In ME2 she was basically a pissed off weapon made by Cerberus and while she resented Cerberus for making her into a weapon she really did very little in the sense of resisting her programming.  In effect throughout ME2 she was acting exactly the way Cerberus wanted her to (literally since joining Shepard entailed joining a Cerberus operation).

What I would have liked to have seen from the character would have been some internal conflict between her programming (the enjoyment she gets out of killing) and her humanity.  You see a little of this during her loyalty mission (if you play paragon) and a little more during the conclusion to her romance; but then the rest of the time she's all one note just continually carrying on about what a badass she is or how pissed off she happens to be.

So in ME3, I'd like to see....


Jack Aesthetically


Keep the tatooos and the shaved head since that's a big part of what gives her a unique look; but just make her dress like an adult not a post apocalyptic crack ****.  In ME2 I had a great deal of trouble taking her character seriously simply because she was wearing leather nipple clamp suspenders.

Jack as a Character


More mental trauma  and conflict and way less swaggering.   I want to see Jack really coming to grips with the question of whether she's really being herself or just what Cerberus programmed her to be.  I don't want to see her constantly carrying on about how badass she is, its childish and stupid.  Real badasses know that actions speak louder than words.

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Destroy Raiden wrote...

She'll probably be the kick your ass type if you weren't her LI in ME2 then she'll steal you ship.

Honestly I would rather substitute her and VSspector if they're crewmen. Her tattoos will stay. Her hair might grow and she'll still have the bad attitude and be crazy if not a LI. If she is your LI she might even rescue you from trial she might have alittle more love if not for the world then just shep. I know when I let her die once on the SM she said, " Damn you shep why did you make me care?" So in that line it suggest that even if you aren't LI with her you might be getting through but I don't expect her to go all charity worker like Blake did.

Though one upgrade I'd appreciate BW is clothing for her you know a top and bottom type of clothing not a bra strap and pants.


Jack vs Ash...... yea you know Joker would seriously want pictures of that.....

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Well crap, if all we care about is specific body parts, then I want a cucumber wrapped in foil strategically placed in male Shepard's pants, a-la Spinal Tap, to make up for the mediocre voice acting.

In case you didn't notice, I'm not serious.

#345
sH0tgUn jUliA

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Throw a vest on her, and otherwise leave her as she is. Period. Short hair and all. It suits her personality.

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i like the idea of a redesign for the way jack looks
i just hope that when it comes to her personality they dont treat her as if people just chose paragon when they interacted with her, it would be great if my renegade choices with her shaped her character also from me2 going into me3.

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Liara in ME1 was essentially a teenager by Asari standards. The difference was she wasn't shaking her a** in a sleazy bar or joining some merc band. She grew up in a hurry during the ME1 campaign, maybe picked up a few scars during the battle of the Citadel. I did find her a bit cold to Shepard especially since she was the LI from ME1. But two years is a long time. People do grow apart a little but get to know each other pretty quickly again -- glad for LOTSB.

Jack is damaged goods. She's a woman who was horribly abused as a small child, then as a young adult was raped, sold herself, and used by other people. She obviously suffers from PTSD and probably from BPD as well. There may be some dissociative stuff going on as well. The tattoos fit her. I don't think she'd suddenly make the decision to have them removed. Leave them alone. The hair fits her. Leave it alone. I took the paragon path with her. Shep is the only one she trusts, but she's only going to let Shepard so close. There is always going to be a barrier of self-protection. That's the way it is with a person like her. I liked her alternate appearance pack look best, but remove the visor. And for what it's worth, hair grows about 1/2" to 1" per month. Six weeks from Arrival to ME3 is not sufficient time to grow out her hair more than about an inch or so. Still I don't think she would. But maybe she would. Roll the dice since the haircut was from the cult she joined, and she might leave that behind. But overall i don't think there should be much change. Personality won't change no matter what anyone thinks, although I think she could make it appear as if it changed if she chose to appear to fit in better. She is a sociopath, but made that way by Cerberus. I think she's one of the deepest characters in teh game. Don't mess with this.

Cerberus did pick a bunch of highly talented, yet broken people for the Collector mission.

#348
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Insom wrote...

They're gonna give her Miranda hair and a catsuit. That's the requirement for all females in ME3. See: Ashley


Elite Midget?  Is that you? :lol:

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I would support her having hair this time. Then I may actually include her.

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Personally I found Jack more attractive than Miranda. Not everyone likes the idea of a woman having to have ****** that look like a dead heat between two zepplins to define their sexuality. I found Miranda a pretty ugly character visually and was clearly designed to appeal to an adolescent male.

Jack is fine as she is, she is an "athletic" build and that build actually represents a proportion of the female gender. Everyone has different tastes and therefore making changes to suit some peoples ideals of woman hood will annoy others who don't share the same view.

There is nothing wrong with possibly showing a little more maturity in her character by giving her a different clothing style and maybe a slightly different haircut (the mohawk that you can mod into the game would be an idea) but that should be all.