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[Sacred_Fantasy]

I'm looking forward for changes in DA 3. The sooner they announce it the sooner I can put this matter at rest. Whether I continue with DA franchise depend on DA 3 changes.

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 24 avril 2011 - 02:57 .

[erynnar]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Point. Missing it.

I almost spit out my soda as I read that, just like I did when Varric said that to poor beset upon Carver. ROFL!

[TEWR]

erynnar wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Point. Missing it.

I almost spit out my soda as I read that, just like I did when Varric said that to poor beset upon Carver. ROFL!

I aim to please

[daemon1129]

At the moment, I really don't care about DA. There are tons of games coming out in the near future, and there are more coming out later this year. I really don't want to see Bioware announce another game this year, and for the most part of next year. DA3 is going to need a lot more development time, at least 2 1/2+. Or they can release DAO2 then maybe I would care about DA3.

[Melduran]

Keep in mind EA purchased Bioware/Pandemic in 2009, in 2009 DAO, and ME2 released January 2010 so little to no influence by EA at the time of those two releases. DA2 was developed after DAO and has experienced all the changes that EA has implemented. Those changes consist of layoffs and outsourcing of many departments. So we saw DA2 in all of its EA glory let us hope ME3 is the redeemer if its not then any speculation on DA3s success is going to be obvious.

[SirGladiator]

It should be relatively easy to look at what worked and what didn't work, in both DAO and DA2, and make DA3 the best of both worlds. Obviously there's no guaranteed successes in the gaming world, but with two games under their belt, and enough feedback to know what fans do and dont want in the third, there's really no reason why it shouldn't be the best one yet, and I'm definitely looking forward to it, as I am the DA2 DLC!

I'd expect and/or hope to see more of Morrigan, Cassandra, Bethany, Varric, and Leliana in the next one, as well as the Empress of Orlais if that ends up being the general area of the game. I'd expect the combat to continue to improve, and the graphics as well. Obviously there will be more sights to see, and more unique dungeons. Hopefully even better VA for the main character, possibly go with Jennifer Hale, Liara, or Tali, any of those would be great for the female main character.

There's really just limitless potential for the awesomeness of DA3, I can't wait to hear the first details!

[Snowship]

I like the gameworld so yes I will be looking forward to info on DA3.
... I'd also like to know how long they'll have it in development before making any opinion.

[AlexXIV]

Tbh if they patched DA2 with a really big patch like CDP did with the Witcher and closed all the plotholes I would be more inclined to buy DA3. Right now I am feeling that they could just put the final nail into the franchise with DA3. Because the strategy seems to be instead of fixing prequels (DA:O, DA:A) with the necessary patches they rather rush a sequel, then only do the most necessary patches there and rush the next.

[sympathy4saren]

rayvioletta wrote...

I'd treat DA3 the same was as I am Skyrim after the abysmal Oblivion, hopeful but sceptical
at least DA has the advantage that DA2 was a decent game, just not good enough

I think Oblivion is anything but abysmal. It friggin won GOTY in 2006. Looting is friggin awesome...and there is so much to do it boggles your mind.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

For many, DA 2 is to DAO, what Oblivion was to Morrowind.

[Sabriana]

mrcrusty wrote...

For many, DA 2 is to DAO, what Oblivion was to Morrowind.

And that is very true. I was so excited when I heard that Bethsoft was producing a follow-up on Morrowind, and I was thoroughly cushed when I played it for the first time.

However, Oblivion came with the TES construction set. The wonderful modding community then proceeded to turn the lump of coal into a jewel, which I still fire up from time to time. Simply to try out the many new mods that are coming out.

Oblivion is the most heavily modded game I've ever played. The huge amount of mods that I have installed for Oblivion outnumber all the other games I own combined.

[SixAgileFingers]

I liked DA2. It isn't perfect, but what is?

DA2 was a very mage-centric story. I can very much see the appeal of having a rogue-centric story in a future game, something built around the underworld of Orlais or Antiva where the abilities to pick locks, disarm traps, move in disguise or in stealth are tradable commodities. There might be missions where the dagger rogue specialties of duellist or assassin form the nucleus of the party, rather than the tank or healer.

That would be awesome.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

SixAgileFingers wrote...

I liked DA2. It isn't perfect, but what is?

DA2 was a very mage-centric story. I can very much see the appeal of having a rogue-centric story in a future game, something built around the underworld of Orlais or Antiva where the abilities to pick locks, disarm traps, move in disguise or in stealth are tradable commodities. There might be missions where the dagger rogue specialties of duellist or assassin form the nucleus of the party, rather than the tank or healer.

That would be awesome.

I'd agree on most of that. Thief centric games or at least missions ftw. But I'm really thinking about alternate ways to solve quests. Not different choices that basically amounted to "I fight, or I don't fight", different paths to complete quests.

There is a general idea for Fallout quest missions where you can take the Action Boy, Stealth Boy, Charisma Boy or Science Boy approach in order to complete a quest. That means solving problems through combat, stealth, persuasion or knowledge. Usually tied to character skills. All that was on top of the choices you made in regards to quest narratives. It wasn't in every quest or anything, but it was a general theme you could see throughout the Fallout games.

Now, I don't think you could directly put this into a Dragon Age game, but you can incorporate the idea of multiple ways to solve one problem. Dragon Age focused on Action and Charisma Boy, and DA 2 almost exclusively focused on Action.

An example would be including infiltration missions. Have incredibly powerful enemies that can be circumvented by good use of rogue specialised skills. Like disarming traps and warning systems, picking locks for alternatve pathways through buildings. Disguises, bribes or blackmailing to prevent combat.

Companion skills sets could come in handy. You are at a guard checkpoint, a cutscene opens up, you've been seen. Get your mage companion to freeze them. If there's only one guard, he's frozen. If there's more than one at the checkpoint, the companion needs an AOE freezing spell (CoC), or the rest get away and set off the alarm.

It wouldn't be too hard to implement, some elements of these were already in Origins and it would be really enjoyable to play through. If you can't handle stealth, then fight your way through. Get schooled. Or pull off an incredibly satisfying victory against overwhelming and powerful enemies.

Imagine if sneaking into your Hightown mansion to get the deed played like the above description?

Modifié par mrcrusty, 24 avril 2011 - 10:51 .

[SixAgileFingers]

I like

[Alex Kershaw]

No - I dread them bringing back Morrigan as an ugly cameo with horns, massive breasts with import bugs in an illogical time period.

[Critical Miss]

I hope Bioware gets DA back on track. The world is fascinating and seems to be grasping for a new age in the wake of superstition. Would be a shame to see all that work go to waste on bad games.

[Riloux]

Bah, no. Unless Laidlaw is ousted, I'm not likely to pick up a copy until way later or just pirate it because EA/Bioware is no longer a company I wish to support. 

Modifié par Riloux, 24 avril 2011 - 12:11 .

[randName]

Riloux wrote...

Bah, no. Unless Laidlaw is ousted, I'm not likely to pick up a copy until way later.

Personally I think you get too personal with things like this, and many do - and while you are fine to doubt Laidlaws abilities to make a good game, I certainly do, if DA3 manages to get the critical acclaim as ME2, RDR, GTA IV and in part DA:O (and none of these games are perfect) and the forums are largely positive, at least not as flamboyantly angry as they are now - would you still wait to get the game until way later? sounds very vindictive.

[Riloux]

randName wrote...

Riloux wrote...

Bah, no. Unless Laidlaw is ousted, I'm not likely to pick up a copy until way later.

Personally I think you get too personal with things like this, and many do - and while you are fine to doubt Laidlaws abilities to make a good game, I certainly do, if DA3 manages to get the critical acclaim as ME2, RDR, GTA IV and in part DA:O (and none of these games are perfect) and the forums are largely positive, at least not as flamboyantly angry as they are now - would you still wait to get the game until way later? sounds very vindictive.

I'm not doubting his abilities to make good games, I'm doubting his abilities to make good RPGs since it doesn't seem he actually enjoys playing them. I'm sure he'd be great working on a team developing a straight up action game or shooter. 

Dragon Age 2 is the first game he's been on as sole lead designer and seeing what he's done with the franchise is indicative of his own gaming preferences (that he continues to defend and push) and disregard for real RPG gamers.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

We'll see what comes out in interviews and previews when they're developing DA 3.

It's entirely possible Laidlaw may push for a more traditional RPG experience because of fan feedback. That said, nothing he has said post-release particularly reassured me of that possibility.

Personally, I would like Laidlaw to head up some sort of Jade Empire 2 project and bring back James Ohlen from his work on TOR.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 24 avril 2011 - 12:32 .

[randName]

Riloux wrote...

randName wrote...

Riloux wrote...

Bah, no. Unless Laidlaw is ousted, I'm not likely to pick up a copy until way later.

Personally I think you get too personal with things like this, and many do - and while you are fine to doubt Laidlaws abilities to make a good game, I certainly do, if DA3 manages to get the critical acclaim as ME2, RDR, GTA IV and in part DA:O (and none of these games are perfect) and the forums are largely positive, at least not as flamboyantly angry as they are now - would you still wait to get the game until way later? sounds very vindictive.

I'm not doubting his abilities to make good games, I'm doubting his abilities to make good RPGs since it doesn't seem he actually enjoys playing them. I'm sure he'd be great working on a team developing a straight up action game or shooter. 

Dragon Age 2 is the first game he's been on as sole lead designer and seeing what he's done with the franchise is indicative of his own gaming preferences (that he continues to defend and push) and disregard for real RPG gamers.

I'm actually doubting both his abilties to make good games and good RPGs, just saying that if he proved you (and me) wrong would you still not get the game? 

Modifié par randName, 24 avril 2011 - 12:31 .

[JabbaDaHutt30]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I haven't really played Mass Effect, but didn't the exact same thing happen with ME2 that happened with DA2?

ME- Good RPG
ME2 - Lost a lot of RPG elements
ME3 - according to latest Game Informer issue, is bringing back RPG elements while keeping a lot of things ME2 had

DA:O - Good RPG
DA2 - Lost a lot of RPG elements
DA3 - With the devs looking at our feedback and constructive criticism, I predict DA3 will be a huge success.

Honestly I'm looking forward to DA3.

Except Dragon Age 2 doesn't have a 94% metascore.

[Riloux]

randName wrote...

Riloux wrote...

randName wrote...

Riloux wrote...

Bah, no. Unless Laidlaw is ousted, I'm not likely to pick up a copy until way later.

Personally I think you get too personal with things like this, and many do - and while you are fine to doubt Laidlaws abilities to make a good game, I certainly do, if DA3 manages to get the critical acclaim as ME2, RDR, GTA IV and in part DA:O (and none of these games are perfect) and the forums are largely positive, at least not as flamboyantly angry as they are now - would you still wait to get the game until way later? sounds very vindictive.

I'm not doubting his abilities to make good games, I'm doubting his abilities to make good RPGs since it doesn't seem he actually enjoys playing them. I'm sure he'd be great working on a team developing a straight up action game or shooter. 

Dragon Age 2 is the first game he's been on as sole lead designer and seeing what he's done with the franchise is indicative of his own gaming preferences (that he continues to defend and push) and disregard for real RPG gamers.

I'm actually doubting both his abilties to make good games and good RPGs, just saying that if he proved you (and me) wrong would you still not get the game? 

As unlikely as that would be, sure I would. Though I doubt letting him on as sole lead designer again would prompt him to deliver the RPG experience we're all looking for, and that's capable of rivaling with Bioware's greatest games. Most likely just more of the same + multiplayer.

DA:O had several designers to balance things out and I think that's what they need to do again. Probably not in budget.

[Gotholhorakh]

Anathemic wrote...

Alright so with the general feedback on DA2, will any of you be looking forward to DA3? Explain why.

Without being overly emotive, if DA3 takes the same path as DA2, I will not be buying it.

I appreciate what they wanted to do, and that they wanted to take it in a different direction, and fair play to them for that, but personally it's not something I would have paid for once if it didn't have the Dragon Age branding, and I wouldn't pay for it twice.

Personally, I would like to see DA3 as a party-based isometric cRPG with DIRECT control over the dialogue choices - that is, what I choose is what gets said and responded to.

These aren't even the biggest parts of the game, they are just the simple mechanics that we have to like, because we use them for hours. I like the evolution from Planescape to Dragon Age and am itching to see a progression in that family of products for the next gen, rather that a pursuit of the path DA2 took.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 24 avril 2011 - 12:52 .

[mykeme]

 Laidlaw was probably butthurt over his console ports of Dragon Age: Origins being booed for having nightmarish controls. So now he went and turned Brent Knowles' brainchild into a zombifying console button masher game for 10 year olds.

Gaider was corrupted after reading Twilight, so he obviously has to go, too. Seriously, reading some of his quotes, I wonder if he didn't find a piece of red lyrium himself. The man's a living, breathing PR disaster on these forums and in interviews.

So yeah, if it ever comes to Dragon Age III, I'll be waiting for a couple of weeks before purchase. The chances of the next game being better, however, are slim.