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[Monica83]

I don't know if its follow the DA2 way of things not even a chance for me to be interessed on another garbage sequel

[Teredan]

So what kind of innovative/new features do you want to see in DA3?
I asked a few of my friends and a lot of them liked the idea of multiplayer and mounts (Told them thay had too much MMO influence).
I for one couldn't care less about these too features since I can't really see what they would add to the kind of games Bioware make.

I would like to see the day when Bioware goes the way of having more independent companions.
Having the hero going through the world solo for a solid time would also help to have more appreciation for companions that you recruit later.

Modifié par Teredan, 24 avril 2011 - 01:42 .

[Speakeasy13]

Defintely not multiplayer. Wouldn't mind mounts, but only if all of my teammates get em too.

[Teredan]

Speakeasy13 wrote...

Defintely not multiplayer. Wouldn't mind mounts, but only if all of my teammates get em too.

Well the only case where I can see mounts happen is if bioware goes sandbox gaming.
I mean seriously mounts in DA:O/DA2 would be totally useless with the world designed to be instanced with relatively small areas. Since Mounts would add size to the player the world would have to be bigger as well.
Imagine yourself on a fullsize horse in the small maps of DA that wouldn't fit.

Modifié par Teredan, 24 avril 2011 - 01:49 .

[Andraste_Reborn]

Alright so with the general feedback on DA2, will any of you be looking forward to DA3? Explain why.

I'm already looking forward to whatever we get next - DLC in the near future, I hope, and further down the track DA3. Is 'because I really enjoyed the first two games' a good enough explanation?

[Speakeasy13]

mykeme wrote...

Gaider was corrupted after reading Twilight, so he obviously has to go, too. Seriously, reading some of his quotes, I wonder if he didn't find a piece of red lyrium himself. The man's a living, breathing PR disaster on these forums and in interviews.

I have to disagree with you on that one. Gaider has generared a significant amount of good PR for DA2, and singlehandedly salvaged my respect for DA2's corner-cutting methods. The way he stood up for his decisions re: homosexuality in DA universe is hardly disasterous, but highly dignified and credible. Not to mention he was one of the few lead devs who actually responded to fan feedback post DA2 release.

[SixAgileFingers]

Teredan wrote...

Speakeasy13 wrote...

Defintely not multiplayer. Wouldn't mind mounts, but only if all of my teammates get em too.

Well the only case where I can see mounts happen is if bioware goes sandbox gaming.
I mean seriously mounts in DA:O/DA2 would be totally useless with the world designed to be instanced with relatively small areas. Since Mounts would add size to the player the world would have to be bigger as well.
Imagine yourself on a fullsize horse in the small maps of DA that wouldn't fit.

Agreed there, though it might work on a solo mission.  DAO of course had an enormous solo mission in the Fade.  DA3 could do with class-specific solo missions, which might benefit from a horse.  Four characters banging into each other on horseback and having to yell sarcasm at each other instead of grumbling it, it'd be bloody chaos.  

[Aaleel]

Speakeasy13 wrote...

mykeme wrote...

Gaider was corrupted after reading Twilight, so he obviously has to go, too. Seriously, reading some of his quotes, I wonder if he didn't find a piece of red lyrium himself. The man's a living, breathing PR disaster on these forums and in interviews.

I have to disagree with you on that one. Gaider has generared a significant amount of good PR for DA2, and singlehandedly salvaged my respect for DA2's corner-cutting methods. The way he stood up for his decisions re: homosexuality in DA universe is hardly disasterous, but highly dignified and credible. Not to mention he was one of the few lead devs who actually responded to fan feedback post DA2 release.

Isn't he the one that got into a back and forth argument with people in the forum and eventually closed the thread.  If that was him, it was one of the most unprofessional things I've ever seen. 

[Must have name]

If Dragon Age 3 goes back more to what Dragon Age 1 was, i'll be incredibly eager to buy it. Otherwise, i'll wait till it drops in price. I don't regret buying DA2, i've had fun with the thing. But paying £25 for the Signature Edition when the game is being sold for £13 only six weeks later is rather annoying.

[Speakeasy13]

Aaleel wrote...

Speakeasy13 wrote...

mykeme wrote...

Gaider was corrupted after reading Twilight, so he obviously has to go, too. Seriously, reading some of his quotes, I wonder if he didn't find a piece of red lyrium himself. The man's a living, breathing PR disaster on these forums and in interviews.

I have to disagree with you on that one. Gaider has generared a significant amount of good PR for DA2, and singlehandedly salvaged my respect for DA2's corner-cutting methods. The way he stood up for his decisions re: homosexuality in DA universe is hardly disasterous, but highly dignified and credible. Not to mention he was one of the few lead devs who actually responded to fan feedback post DA2 release.

Isn't he the one that got into a back and forth argument with people in the forum and eventually closed the thread.  If that was him, it was one of the most unprofessional things I've ever seen. 

IIRC he defended his decisions the best he could logically; but SOME ppl weren't interested in logic. They basicially ganged up and insulted him. So I guess professionalism goes both ways. It's hard to expect respect when you don't respect to begin with.

[randName]

Speakeasy13 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Speakeasy13 wrote...

mykeme wrote...

Gaider was corrupted after reading Twilight, so he obviously has to go, too. Seriously, reading some of his quotes, I wonder if he didn't find a piece of red lyrium himself. The man's a living, breathing PR disaster on these forums and in interviews.

I have to disagree with you on that one. Gaider has generared a significant amount of good PR for DA2, and singlehandedly salvaged my respect for DA2's corner-cutting methods. The way he stood up for his decisions re: homosexuality in DA universe is hardly disasterous, but highly dignified and credible. Not to mention he was one of the few lead devs who actually responded to fan feedback post DA2 release.

Isn't he the one that got into a back and forth argument with people in the forum and eventually closed the thread.  If that was him, it was one of the most unprofessional things I've ever seen. 

IIRC he defended his decisions the best he could logically; but SOME ppl weren't interested in logic. They basicially ganged up and insulted him. So I guess professionalism goes both ways. It's hard to expect respect when you don't respect to begin with.

Didn't read the thread so can comment on it, and I generally like that Gaider is posting on the forums, the problem is that you can't really post things like.



And then expect that no one will hold a grundge - if he only was professional all the time it's one thing, but once you start to swing both ways, something I prefer myself, you do set yourself up for some flak.

EDIT: And I liked that he posted that, but I was also suprised since arrogance isn't really a good way to win hearts of people, or acceptance for ideas, and once you start to flame yourself you need to accept that you will be flamed back.

Modifié par randName, 24 avril 2011 - 02:47 .

[SixAgileFingers]

On the other hand, that is pretty darn funny.

[Gotholhorakh]

Speakeasy13 wrote...
I guess professionalism goes both ways.

No, no it doesn't.

That's sort of the point of professionalism.

[randName]

SixAgileFingers wrote...

On the other hand, that is pretty darn funny.

Yeah, and I actually think that Gaider has been the best thing about BioWare post release, as I've seen him post despite the turmoil, and that he stood up to choices like the bisexual very well, and I do think that gave BioWare good PR.


I also like most of the dialogue and most of the stories save the endgame part - and I liked the writing for most of the companions - so I don't have much to say when it comes to negatives to the story it self (save that the rest of the game can't carry it, as the story says Kirkwall is crowded, but its not, the story says you are around the city for 7 years, but clearly nothing changes etc).

Save the retcons - damn I hate those.

Actually I'll probably dislike anyone responsible for the retcons ~

Modifié par randName, 24 avril 2011 - 02:53 .

[Aaleel]

Speakeasy13 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Speakeasy13 wrote...

mykeme wrote...

Gaider was corrupted after reading Twilight, so he obviously has to go, too. Seriously, reading some of his quotes, I wonder if he didn't find a piece of red lyrium himself. The man's a living, breathing PR disaster on these forums and in interviews.

I have to disagree with you on that one. Gaider has generared a significant amount of good PR for DA2, and singlehandedly salvaged my respect for DA2's corner-cutting methods. The way he stood up for his decisions re: homosexuality in DA universe is hardly disasterous, but highly dignified and credible. Not to mention he was one of the few lead devs who actually responded to fan feedback post DA2 release.

Isn't he the one that got into a back and forth argument with people in the forum and eventually closed the thread.  If that was him, it was one of the most unprofessional things I've ever seen. 

IIRC he defended his decisions the best he could logically; but SOME ppl weren't interested in logic. They basicially ganged up and insulted him. So I guess professionalism goes both ways. It's hard to expect respect when you don't respect to begin with.

I found the thread.

My "attitude" which is evidently not agreeing with everyone who has a chip on their shoulder?

Time for me to go back to work and not get drawn into these arguments, I think. Sorry to cause such a stir.

This was professional if he had just left like he said.  But he came back to say this

Ah, yes. So it's quite all right to read my posts in the tone of
Darth Vader, or applying any other tone that you imagine I have, but
your posts should be considered harmless and playful?

And this after someone told him to act like a professional

Tell you what. I'll leave estimations on my professionalism to my bosses. But thank you for the advice.

And
seeing as we've now descended into personal attacks, this "bitter forum
troll" is going to shut down this thread. If you wish to restart a
similar topic, do so without the flagrant attacks-- and I'll avoid it
like the plague, since it seems anything that isn't me being apologetic
and far more respectful of the opinions and feelings of others than they
are of mine isdefensive bitterness. Probably best if I just leave the angry ones to flail about without providing them a target.

Just leave, why come back to argue with people.

[randName]

Gotholhorakh wrote...

Speakeasy13 wrote...
I guess professionalism goes both ways.

No, no it doesn't.

That's sort of the point of professionalism.

Heh, good point - now I feel rather stupid for not reacting to that before.




@Aaleel : So much for him being professional ~  I kind of hoped that speakeasy13 was right ~

Modifié par randName, 24 avril 2011 - 02:54 .

[Persephone]

Aaleel wrote...

Speakeasy13 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Speakeasy13 wrote...

mykeme wrote...

Gaider was corrupted after reading Twilight, so he obviously has to go, too. Seriously, reading some of his quotes, I wonder if he didn't find a piece of red lyrium himself. The man's a living, breathing PR disaster on these forums and in interviews.

I have to disagree with you on that one. Gaider has generared a significant amount of good PR for DA2, and singlehandedly salvaged my respect for DA2's corner-cutting methods. The way he stood up for his decisions re: homosexuality in DA universe is hardly disasterous, but highly dignified and credible. Not to mention he was one of the few lead devs who actually responded to fan feedback post DA2 release.

Isn't he the one that got into a back and forth argument with people in the forum and eventually closed the thread.  If that was him, it was one of the most unprofessional things I've ever seen. 

IIRC he defended his decisions the best he could logically; but SOME ppl weren't interested in logic. They basicially ganged up and insulted him. So I guess professionalism goes both ways. It's hard to expect respect when you don't respect to begin with.

I found the thread.

My "attitude" which is evidently not agreeing with everyone who has a chip on their shoulder?

Time for me to go back to work and not get drawn into these arguments, I think. Sorry to cause such a stir.

This was professional if he had just left like he said.  But he came back to say this

Ah, yes. So it's quite all right to read my posts in the tone of
Darth Vader, or applying any other tone that you imagine I have, but
your posts should be considered harmless and playful?

And this after someone told him to act like a professional

Tell you what. I'll leave estimations on my professionalism to my bosses. But thank you for the advice.

And
seeing as we've now descended into personal attacks, this "bitter forum
troll" is going to shut down this thread. If you wish to restart a
similar topic, do so without the flagrant attacks-- and I'll avoid it
like the plague, since it seems anything that isn't me being apologetic
and far more respectful of the opinions and feelings of others than they
are of mine isdefensive bitterness. Probably best if I just leave the angry ones to flail about without providing them a target.

Just leave, why come back to argue with people.

Because he has a point?

Anyway, yes, I am looking forward to future DA releases. Won't be buying them blindly (I followed in "What do we know so far?" Thread for a LONG time before I decided to give DAII a go) , but I have every confidence that Bioware will work with the feedback they got and deliver an awesome DAIII. And if not, I'll be sad for a bit & then play something else.

[mykeme]

"Well, I think Twilight is far more effective with its romantic elements than most people give it credit for. Granted, it has little else going for it-- but the romance it does well." - DG

You know, I think Justin Bieber is far more effective with his stage persona than most people give him credit for. Granted, he lacks singing talent-- but his stage persona is quite well done. I mean, how else has he captivated the hearts of millions of 8-13 year old girls? He must have done *something* right.

[Persephone]

mykeme wrote...

"Well, I think Twilight is far more effective with its romantic elements than most people give it credit for. Granted, it has little else going for it-- but the romance it does well." - DG

You know, I think Justin Bieber is far more effective with his stage persona than most people give him credit for. Granted, he lacks singing talent-- but his stage persona is quite well done. I mean, how else has he captivated the hearts of millions of 8-13 year old girls? He must have done *something* right.

I hate Twilight with a burning passion, lemme tell ya. But that quote ain't enough for me to condemn a Lead Writer who has, so far, always convinced me/drawn me in with his writing and his characters.

[Anathemic]

Persephone wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Speakeasy13 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Speakeasy13 wrote...

mykeme wrote...

Gaider was corrupted after reading Twilight, so he obviously has to go, too. Seriously, reading some of his quotes, I wonder if he didn't find a piece of red lyrium himself. The man's a living, breathing PR disaster on these forums and in interviews.

I have to disagree with you on that one. Gaider has generared a significant amount of good PR for DA2, and singlehandedly salvaged my respect for DA2's corner-cutting methods. The way he stood up for his decisions re: homosexuality in DA universe is hardly disasterous, but highly dignified and credible. Not to mention he was one of the few lead devs who actually responded to fan feedback post DA2 release.

Isn't he the one that got into a back and forth argument with people in the forum and eventually closed the thread.  If that was him, it was one of the most unprofessional things I've ever seen. 

IIRC he defended his decisions the best he could logically; but SOME ppl weren't interested in logic. They basicially ganged up and insulted him. So I guess professionalism goes both ways. It's hard to expect respect when you don't respect to begin with.

I found the thread.

My "attitude" which is evidently not agreeing with everyone who has a chip on their shoulder?

Time for me to go back to work and not get drawn into these arguments, I think. Sorry to cause such a stir.

This was professional if he had just left like he said.  But he came back to say this

Ah, yes. So it's quite all right to read my posts in the tone of
Darth Vader, or applying any other tone that you imagine I have, but
your posts should be considered harmless and playful?

And this after someone told him to act like a professional

Tell you what. I'll leave estimations on my professionalism to my bosses. But thank you for the advice.

And
seeing as we've now descended into personal attacks, this "bitter forum
troll" is going to shut down this thread. If you wish to restart a
similar topic, do so without the flagrant attacks-- and I'll avoid it
like the plague, since it seems anything that isn't me being apologetic
and far more respectful of the opinions and feelings of others than they
are of mine isdefensive bitterness. Probably best if I just leave the angry ones to flail about without providing them a target.

Just leave, why come back to argue with people.

Because he has a point?

Anyway, yes, I am looking forward to future DA releases. Won't be buying them blindly (I followed in "What do we know so far?" Thread for a LONG time before I decided to give DAII a go) , but I have every confidence that Bioware will work with the feedback they got and deliver an awesome DAIII. And if not, I'll be sad for a bit & then play something else.

No that's stupid, that's letting his arrogance and pride getting the best of him. Community managers such as Jon do a better job keeping professionalism in their posts. Even better yet go on the WoW forums, Blizzard gets flamed daily for this or that, community managers still keep professionalism in their posts.

[fchopin]

I watched the first Twilight and thought it was a good film, if you think that makes me a 13 year old kid it's up to you guys.

[Teredan]

fchopin wrote...

I watched the first Twilight and thought it was a good film, if you think that makes me a 13 year old kid it's up to you guys.

Why would we, it just means that a) you have never watched a good film, you have horrible filmtaste or let me rephrase this nice you have a very low standart if it comes to films, c) you enjoy shallowness which boils down to be b.

Believe me I often accept that there are different opinions about different things but there can't be any discussion about the quality of the Twilight films.

Also let me quote Jeremy Jahns for this "It's ultimately porn for women. It absolutely is if you think about it. It's corny it has laughable dialogue and for reasons unknown to us it unquestionably turns on it's target audience."
(to all women, pls take no offense, I agree generalisation is always bad but it think it's still a funny analogy. Also it's quote so don't blame me )

[TEWR]

one thing that would've definitely helped DA2 is if Varric said to Cassandra "I'll tell you the most important parts of the Champion's time in Kirkwall" which would imply that Hawke wasn't just sitting on his ass for those gaps in time and it's what Cassandra definitely needs to hear.

[aries1001]

There's a difference, I think, in being a community manager, and a Lead Writer for the series. David Gaider is is the latter, and you have to remember that he is also only human. So maybe he reacts a little too strongly sometimes, but for me, it is worth it. Because it means that the devs. are not just only mechanical creatures but humans who speak out - when they interact with us - on the forums.

As for DA3, I'd like to get rid of the ridiculous ninja'ing of rogues, leaping through the air to backstab people. I was like :roll: when I first saw it. And please tone down the waves in DA 3, please. It is ok by me to give followers their own armour, but make it so that we (or they?) can buy or get better armour for them in the game. Some mentioned Varric's weapon 'bianca' (a crossbow), and suggested that this could work for other companions as well e.g. Aveline having her shield, Isabella having her daggers, annd having his mage staff. And why can't mages in the DA-universe fight with their staffs as two-handed weapons like they could in BG2 and BG1?

As for time going on in the game, I would like to suggest the adding of seasons, so we get a time in winter and and time in sommer. This way the game let's you know that time passes, and that seasons change.

As for the crowding in Kirkwall, was Denerim (the trade quarter) any more crowded than Kirkwall, was Baldur's Gate (the town) in the game BG1, more crowded than Kirkwall. I think people have come expect npcs in (big) cities in games living their own lives, moving about. At least since Gothic, Oblivion and The Wicther. And writer can certainly praise the writing about romance in another book, yet still think that the rest of writing in the book isn't done very well.

[Curlain]

Given the way things are looking, I don't think DA3 will be my kind of game. When it comes out I'll take a look into it to see if I'm wrong about it, but everything I'm reading for the devs about their intentions regarding future DA games leads me to believe it won't be for me, so I'm not really looking forward to it atm