Still makes little sense. Just wanted to share.
Mass Effect Evolution #4
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Kusy
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 12:44
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Long story Short - Saren was TIM.
Issue 1: Ashley's grandpa is a drunkard, They unearthed a Reaper artifact.
Issue 2: TIM has superpowers, some fighting.
Issue 3: Some fighting, they make more husks
Issue 4: They noticed that unearthing the Reaper artifact was a bad idea, they kill the husks, one of the husks has a kind heart, kills the chick but is sad about it, huskifies Desolas, Saren nukes it all to hell along with his brother.
The only outcome of this whole story is that both Saren and TIM were exposed to Reaper Technology... like we were not aware of that with Saren before. Not even a single "why?" anwsered... at least I don't see any significant ones.
It's just like those sidequests in ME1 where you would fine a cave with that kind of artifact, all the scientists are turned into husks so you kill all those husks. And you move on.
Issue 1: Ashley's grandpa is a drunkard, They unearthed a Reaper artifact.
Issue 2: TIM has superpowers, some fighting.
Issue 3: Some fighting, they make more husks
Issue 4: They noticed that unearthing the Reaper artifact was a bad idea, they kill the husks, one of the husks has a kind heart, kills the chick but is sad about it, huskifies Desolas, Saren nukes it all to hell along with his brother.
The only outcome of this whole story is that both Saren and TIM were exposed to Reaper Technology... like we were not aware of that with Saren before. Not even a single "why?" anwsered... at least I don't see any significant ones.
It's just like those sidequests in ME1 where you would fine a cave with that kind of artifact, all the scientists are turned into husks so you kill all those husks. And you move on.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 12:53
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Lol, yeah.Mr.Kusy wrote...
It's just like those sidequests in ME1 where you would fine a cave with that kind of artifact, all the scientists are turned into husks so you kill all those husks. And you move on.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:01
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Seriously, I expected some insight on how TIM found Cerberus, it's ties to the Alliance (except that a high ranking officer gave his pimped out ride to it's founder), what made TIM so much hatefull towards aliens, why is he so much devoted to saving humanity, what is his interest in making humans the most prominent race in the galaxy.
Instead I get Some Fighting, robed Turians with torches and a touching story about how a husk saved the christmass.
Instead I get Some Fighting, robed Turians with torches and a touching story about how a husk saved the christmass.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:05
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The sentient husk bit I thought was particularly ......Mr.Kusy wrote...
Seriously, I expected some insight on how TIM found Cerberus, it's ties to the Alliance (except that a high ranking officer gave his pimped out ride to it's founder), what made TIM so much hatefull towards aliens, why is he so much devoted to saving humanity, what is his interest in making humans the most prominent race in the galaxy.
Instead I get Some Fighting, robed Turians with torches and a touching story about how a husk saved the christmass.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:09
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Are you guys serious? None of that is answered? What about how he became TIM? I mean his decision not history.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:16
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Haha... nope. The story ends with TIM leaving the place with his chick's half cold body telling Saren to warn his people... also he throws a cool comment that he would stay to watch but he has to "tend to his own". Then a few shots of him in his regular outfit, in his regular chair, drinking his regular alcohol... and some cliche rambling about a great threat lurking in the galaxy.
The best way this could have ended was with TIM waking up and yelling "Oh god! It was just a bad dream!"
The best way this could have ended was with TIM waking up and yelling "Oh god! It was just a bad dream!"
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:19
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javierabegazo wrote...
The sentient husk bit I thought was particularly ......retardeduncool.
They were more like Grayson than straight-up husks.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:20
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Those comics really suck, don't they?
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:21
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Well hope the third comic will be better.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:25
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I do realise, still. Maybee it's because there was more space to flesh out the changes Grayson was going since it was a book but in the comic it just looks stupid.didymos1120 wrote...
They were more like Grayson than straight-up husks.
I do realise, still. Maybee it's because there was more space to flesh out the changes Grayson was going since it was a book but in the comic it just looks stupid.didymos1120 wrote...
They were more like Grayson than straight-up husks.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:29
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Was there ever any good comic books that were used to expand a gaming franchise?
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:30
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Razagon wrote...
Well hope the third comic will be better.
FIFTH comic you mean. There's those two free online ones besides Redemption and Evolution.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:32
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I just hope that mr. Walters learns about the limitations and advantages of working with a comic storyline. I'm not saying I would do it better, but it doesn't change the fact this is bad. Or just hire someone who does good coimcs. That's how the whole Star Wars universe is working - they license external writers and tell them "in this book Chewie has to die" and how Chewie died was up to the author (it's another thing that book was also a bad one). Not every decent story has to be writen by George Lucas. George Lucas only has to slap his seal of aproval to it.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:32
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Mr.Kusy wrote...
I do realise, still. Maybee it's because there was more space to flesh out the changes Grayson was going since it was a book but in the comic it just looks stupid.didymos1120 wrote...
They were more like Grayson than straight-up husks.
Yeah, this mini-series was a bit too "mini". They shouldn't have tried to shove everything into four issues. I thought it was fine with Redemption because the scale of the story was actually small: Liara goes to Omega, meets Feron and some Cerberus folk, goes and gets Shep's body. The end. Evolution just tried to cover way too much: FCW, origin of TIM, the whole Reaper artifact thing with all its backstory, the Saren/Desolas stuff.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:34
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Mr.Kusy wrote...
I just hope that mr. Walters learns about the limitations and advantages of working with a comic storyline. I'm not saying I would do it better, but it doesn't change the fact this is bad. Or just hire someone who does good coimcs. That's how the whole Star Wars universe is working - they license external writers and tell them "in this book Chewie has to die" and how Chewie died was up to the author (it's another thing that book was also a bad one). Not every decent story has to be writen by George Lucas. George Lucas only has to slap his seal of aproval to it.
What they should do is comics that don't have anything to do with the main storyline like a series about Samara's life as a Justicar prior to joining Shep or Zaeed's mercenary career.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:35
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I pretty much agree Didymos. In one second they are here, in the next they are there, then they shoot at somoene, then they are imprisoned, then again, then the end. The the reader finds some time to ask himself "what the duck just happened?"
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:35
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They should at least get a worthy artist.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:40
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Dark Horse do have some skilled artists in their power... but yeah, I'm not a fan of how those ME ones are drawn. Maybee it would also be nice to change artists from one to another, this would help to hide the feeling that you're still reading the same ****ty comic from Redemption all the way to Evolution.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:40
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Mr.Kusy wrote...
Issue 4: They noticed that unearthing the Reaper artifact was a bad idea, they kill the husks, one of the husks has a kind heart, kills the chick but is sad about it, huskifies Desolas, Saren nukes it all to hell along with his brother.
WTH? Saren killed Desolas? Then why does he hate humanity? And why would he track down and ally himself with Sovereign, an artifact of the same technology that destroyed his brother?
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:48
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LookingGlass93 wrote...
WTH? Saren killed Desolas? Then why does he hate humanity? And why would he track down and ally himself with Sovereign, an artifact of the same technology that destroyed his brother?
Well technically it was the human husk Desolas was using as a slave that huskified him. Then Saren killed huskified Desolas. Yes, it makes sense.
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 01:55
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As an aside, I always wondered how the humans and the turians could communicate with each other during the first contact war. You would think those translators would take some time and in dept cultural knowledge to be made...
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Posté 24 avril 2011 - 02:05
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Mr.Kusy wrote...
LookingGlass93 wrote...
WTH? Saren killed Desolas? Then why does he hate humanity? And why would he track down and ally himself with Sovereign, an artifact of the same technology that destroyed his brother?
Well technically it was the human husk Desolas was using as a slave that huskified him. Then Saren killed huskified Desolas. Yes, it makes sense.
The other thing is, if humans hadn't gone and started fiddling with mass relays and settled on Shanxi then none of it would have happened. Saren would see it as ultimately all a result of human hubris and intrusion into the galaxy, and he already disliked us just from the FCW alone.
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