Who is the best for the Warden?...Morrigan or Leliana?
Débuté par
thenemesis77
, avril 24 2011 02:57
#1
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 02:57
Just what do you guys and gals from the game think? I love both, I would love to carry over the Warden and Morrigan but what she said if you don't go with her in "Witch Hunt" pulls me back from her and more to Leliana, who never did play games and loved me for who my Warden was. I like both but I think we will be faced with a big task in who is the right one in DA3, "I have no dought the Warden will be back, just a matter of time:. Time will tell and how we get to pick the outcome of stories, makes it great. I would want Morrigan but to each their own.
#2
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 03:14
Morrigan is a wonderful BFF and the romance was amazing, the VA alone was nothing less than spectacular. Her story is also intriguing and I suspect not done. But best for the warden- my money is on Leiliana. Morrigan has an agenda that is larger than any feeling she may have for the warden Leiliana is willing and able to devote her all to the warden, his life and his cause. Morrigan is by far the better choice for story but if you were the warden after ending a blight and doing all the post blight adventuring don't you feel your PC has earned a happily ever after with a woman who loves him?
Thats my 2 cents worth but I am partial to the rogues.
Thats my 2 cents worth but I am partial to the rogues.
#3
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 03:49
Heck, why even limit it down to just those two love interests? I think 'Who is the best for the Warden' is almost too broad of a statement. Obviously, it goes on a Warden by Warden basis. Some wardens may prefer the closure without actual closure you get from the Morrigan Romance, when you both step through the Eluvian, together. Some wardens may prefer the idea of exploring the Fereldan Countryside with Leliana after all the hard work they put in to defending it. Not to mention the people who romanced Alistair, or Zevran, or to some extent, Anora (like myself).
But if you're talking on a general basis, who would be better for a heterosexual male grey warden on a long-term scale if he had the same personality no matter who he was romanced with, and we're just looking at this from an outside perspective comparing only those two, as opposed to those two and their compatibility to the same warden? Probably Leliana. Morrigan really comes out of the woodwork with her ulterior motives in the end, but after seeing some of her cutscenes in the game, and even playing through Witch Hunt, it's not like I can say that she loves the warden any less than Leliana does. So I guess I still don't have a real answer, here.
That's why I enjoy how simple my warden's life was. Haha, romanced Leliana and Morrigan. Morrigan brought it up that she doesn't like to share, so I broke things off with her and went exclusive with Leliana, only to break it off to marry Anora. There's no emotional problems there. Anora and I both know we come second (or even third) in each other's lives.
But if you're talking on a general basis, who would be better for a heterosexual male grey warden on a long-term scale if he had the same personality no matter who he was romanced with, and we're just looking at this from an outside perspective comparing only those two, as opposed to those two and their compatibility to the same warden? Probably Leliana. Morrigan really comes out of the woodwork with her ulterior motives in the end, but after seeing some of her cutscenes in the game, and even playing through Witch Hunt, it's not like I can say that she loves the warden any less than Leliana does. So I guess I still don't have a real answer, here.
That's why I enjoy how simple my warden's life was. Haha, romanced Leliana and Morrigan. Morrigan brought it up that she doesn't like to share, so I broke things off with her and went exclusive with Leliana, only to break it off to marry Anora. There's no emotional problems there. Anora and I both know we come second (or even third) in each other's lives.
#4
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 04:09
I guess I should have brought it to, where people that liked the romance with Leliana and Morrigan.
Sorry I was not outright with it but, I do think that this is the "part of the story that will carry over in DA3". You have a certain girl looking for the Warden..........and such a sad look on her face when they can't seem to find the Warden. You have one that says ''it would not be good for you to meet me when I come back.......Morrigan............even if you did go with her..I think BioWare will use the one where you stayed behind and what Morrigan said, gave me chills......"it would not be good for you to see me then, or somthing to that level......meaning she would attack the Warden if he/she would try to go to war with her. That pissed me off with her and gave me a ture feel that she will be the main badwomen in the end, fits, she loved the warden and pulled us in and now we have to kill her, makes me want to puke but a its good story.
Sorry I was not outright with it but, I do think that this is the "part of the story that will carry over in DA3". You have a certain girl looking for the Warden..........and such a sad look on her face when they can't seem to find the Warden. You have one that says ''it would not be good for you to meet me when I come back.......Morrigan............even if you did go with her..I think BioWare will use the one where you stayed behind and what Morrigan said, gave me chills......"it would not be good for you to see me then, or somthing to that level......meaning she would attack the Warden if he/she would try to go to war with her. That pissed me off with her and gave me a ture feel that she will be the main badwomen in the end, fits, she loved the warden and pulled us in and now we have to kill her, makes me want to puke but a its good story.
Modifié par thenemesis77, 24 avril 2011 - 04:14 .
#5
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 05:43
Gorim was my love interest, so maybe I am not the best one to give advice on the matter.
However, from your own admission, Morrigan plays games and has her own agenda, whereas Leliana has a pure love for you. So, choose Leliana in my honest opinion.
However, from your own admission, Morrigan plays games and has her own agenda, whereas Leliana has a pure love for you. So, choose Leliana in my honest opinion.
#6
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 09:13
If I'm being honest, Leliana.
But nobody is going to tear my Warden away from Morrigan. Nobody.
But nobody is going to tear my Warden away from Morrigan. Nobody.
#7
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 12:49
Hmm, I'd say a hardened Leliana. I think an unhardened Leliana would be too crazy and clingy. The warden would probably slowly replace the maker in her eyes, this could become stalkerish and weird. A hardened Leliana goes back to her old bard self but keeps some of the crazy to spice things up and some of the clingy not to dump the Warden for the next guy or gal she finds. Morrigan has the best romance story in the game but it breaks my Warden's heart.
#8
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 02:12
This whole topic assumes that the Warden is a dude.
That is all.
That is all.
#9
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 03:10
I do think that Morrigan loves the Warden but her plan to do what she thinks is "right for the world" overides that. Leliana does love the Warden too but he/she left and thus she will be a much harder, darker character then whe the Warden last met her. I also see the Warden like "Mad Max" A much Harder character that cares but does not show it like he/she use to and thus when the Warden meets both Morrigan and Leliana...they will see a much changed person then the one they knew, alot of new hard layers are there now and it will take alot to find that Warden of old. I think the Warden will still be good but much harder over the things that have taken place in their life.
#10
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 06:46
I assumed based on the topic title that the discussion would be limited to Morrigan or leiliana and since Morrigan only does it with dudes that the warden would be a hetero dude. HOwever if we open and expand the topic to include all LI's and warden genders I go with Zev for the warden, I am a hardcore Zev gal all the way. Whether my warden is male or female and regardless of origin Zev is the best LI in the game bar none and I love them all. But Zev picks up the win for growth and loyalty and ultimately putting the warden first in all things.
#11
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 07:35
If Morrigan was not there then I would have been happy with Leliana who is warm, intelligent, caring and full of hope
but there is something special about Morrigan...despite her own agenda, lack of social graces and coldness
A happier ending seemed likelier with Leliana though given the events of DA 2 maybe not...
but there is something special about Morrigan...despite her own agenda, lack of social graces and coldness
A happier ending seemed likelier with Leliana though given the events of DA 2 maybe not...
#12
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 10:00
Have two DA2 playthroughs, one with either import? That's my plan anyway, though it's nothing to do with who I romanced in DAO, it's Leliana all the way in Origins as far as I'm concerned.
But really neither of them are good for the warden, he's safer at home with a book and a cup of tea
But really neither of them are good for the warden, he's safer at home with a book and a cup of tea
#13
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 03:55
Leliana...though I am certainly biased
#14
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 09:38
I liked a hardened Leliana on my rogue slightly different from canon Warden. But for my canon Warden, my 'me' playthrough, it was Morrigan every time. Her and my Warden had such similar ideals, they just fit together perfectly. So yeah, in gist, I liked Leliana, but Morrigan wins out. Actually, out of the Origins love interests, the only one not to make an appearance in DA:2 is Morrigan. But then, her and my Warden did go to Eluvian land. Your love interest has a fairly major impact on the world actually;
Morrigan: OGB and Eluvian. 'Nuff said.
Leliana: Trying to pull the world back from the edge. Searching for the Warden. (and Hawke)
Alistair: (for me) King of Ferelden.
Zevran: single handedly eliminated the most powerful organisation in Antiva, and no doubt changed the politics of Antiva forever.
Morrigan: OGB and Eluvian. 'Nuff said.
Leliana: Trying to pull the world back from the edge. Searching for the Warden. (and Hawke)
Alistair: (for me) King of Ferelden.
Zevran: single handedly eliminated the most powerful organisation in Antiva, and no doubt changed the politics of Antiva forever.
Modifié par SirLogical, 25 avril 2011 - 09:39 .
#15
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 02:15
I never managed to end a PT involved with either one, although I tried with both. The Morrimancer got tired of pretending he never had a moment of weakness before she came around, and the Lelimancer was put off by the too much, too soon. I'd have to roll Wardens tailor-made for those two to complete their romances, I think.
#16
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 02:57
What he said. My lone male PC would have followed Morri to the end of the world... and eventually did.TheBlackBaron wrote...
If I'm being honest, Leliana.
But nobody is going to tear my Warden away from Morrigan. Nobody.
#17
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 03:03
Morrigan has the dark, bad girl thing going for her, but my wardens usually end up with Leliana, not only for easier approval, but I like how Leliana enjoys being on the journey and doesn't want it to end. Morrigan just cares about getting her "god baby".
#18
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 03:05
GSSAGE7 wrote...
This whole topic assumes that the Warden is a dude.
That is all.
Leliana is bisexual. She doesn't play favorites.
#19
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 05:17
I think her motive significantly changes if she's either befriended or in love with the Warden.Arthur Cousland wrote...
Morrigan has the dark, bad girl thing going for her, but my wardens usually end up with Leliana, not only for easier approval, but I like how Leliana enjoys being on the journey and doesn't want it to end. Morrigan just cares about getting her "god baby".
#20
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 06:44
I chose Morrigan and can't see the game playing out any differently for my Warden. It's so awesome when you start to see her cold demeanor cracking and she has those internal struggles of how she feels vs what she was raised to understand (love as a weakness).
I'm praying that my Witch Hunt conclusion is kept in tact through DA2 into DA3 and Morrigan, my Warden, and the child are able to return, smack the crap out of Hawke and said "Look, you simp, here's how it's done!"
I'm praying that my Witch Hunt conclusion is kept in tact through DA2 into DA3 and Morrigan, my Warden, and the child are able to return, smack the crap out of Hawke and said "Look, you simp, here's how it's done!"
#21
Posté 26 avril 2011 - 02:00
I'm kind of partial to the Warden's Origins.
Magi: Morrigan and the Warden are both mages come from different but similarly secluded backgrounds. She's the bad girl to his goody-goody. At the same time, Leliana's faith in the Maker is an opposite attraction to my irreverence for the Chantry.
Dalish Elf: Cast out from his clan, he is very much alone save for his suddenly diminished Warden brethren. It's a sense isolation or loneliness that Morrigan may relate better to than the more pampared and material Leliana, as well as to life in the wilderness. The Witch Hunt DLC also puts a sense of destiny / conclusion to his otherwise unremarkable Origin.
City Elf / Dwarf Commoner: Growing up in the Alienage / poor district made him a social animal, something Leliana is to much greater extent than the reclusive and scheming Morrigan. He is further distanced from the mage by his acceptance of social conventions such as the Chantry / caste system as facts of life though not necessarily the be-all end-all authority.
Human Noble / Dwarf Noble: Love with a woman without class is a consideration. Not that they wouldn't consider bedding Morrigan but Leliana is someone more in tune with their worlds' ideas and sensibilities. And even the love of an Orlesian bard may not be what they ultimately decide on between Anora, Gorim, and possibly some noble hunter in Orzammar.
Magi: Morrigan and the Warden are both mages come from different but similarly secluded backgrounds. She's the bad girl to his goody-goody. At the same time, Leliana's faith in the Maker is an opposite attraction to my irreverence for the Chantry.
Dalish Elf: Cast out from his clan, he is very much alone save for his suddenly diminished Warden brethren. It's a sense isolation or loneliness that Morrigan may relate better to than the more pampared and material Leliana, as well as to life in the wilderness. The Witch Hunt DLC also puts a sense of destiny / conclusion to his otherwise unremarkable Origin.
City Elf / Dwarf Commoner: Growing up in the Alienage / poor district made him a social animal, something Leliana is to much greater extent than the reclusive and scheming Morrigan. He is further distanced from the mage by his acceptance of social conventions such as the Chantry / caste system as facts of life though not necessarily the be-all end-all authority.
Human Noble / Dwarf Noble: Love with a woman without class is a consideration. Not that they wouldn't consider bedding Morrigan but Leliana is someone more in tune with their worlds' ideas and sensibilities. And even the love of an Orlesian bard may not be what they ultimately decide on between Anora, Gorim, and possibly some noble hunter in Orzammar.
#22
Posté 27 avril 2011 - 07:27
In my mind the canon Warden is a male human noble that romanced Morrigan. But who's better? Can't say. They both (Leliana seems to given she's running around Kirkwall as a seeker) leave the Warden after the events of DAO or Awakening. So you're alone post game either way.
Modifié par Slidell505, 27 avril 2011 - 07:29 .





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