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If there was one tiny change you could make to the plot...


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Fruit of the Doom

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...just one itsy bitsy little alteration...

What would it be?

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The ability to kill or at least attack Grace before she kills Thrask in Best Served Cold. Either that, or maybe more of the companions could change their outfits once or twice (besides just when they have sex with Hawke).

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Rifneno

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...

...just one itsy bitsy little alteration...

What would it be?


The Arishok would finally admit he's overcompensating for his tiny penis instead of just heavily implying it.

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Convince Orsino to stand down in the mage ending before going BLARGH HARVESTER.

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Fruit of the Doom

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I think there should have been a Sassy Hawke option to get Meredith and Orsino to confess their love for one another--leading to a happy ending!

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Killing Grace in Act 1.

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Not just stand and watch while Huon kills his wife who you specifically told you were going to protect.

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Being able to have the dialogue option "I know you helped kill my mommy Orisino! D:" at the beginning of Act 3.

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Rifneno wrote...

Fruit of the Doom wrote...

...just one itsy bitsy little alteration...

What would it be?


The Arishok would finally admit he's overcompensating for his tiny penis instead of just heavily implying it.


Leliana: *chuckles* softie!
Arishok: *grunts*
Leliana: Sten's wasn't soft. Your's is.
Arishok: I am the Arishok! I am not soft in any aspect!
Leliana: *chuckles* softie!
Arishok: I hate humans....

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Dio Demon

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Make an Oghren cameo

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LobselVith8

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Hawke would be proactive and actually do things on his own initiative, instead of reacting to everything.

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Aveline as a romance.

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TheBlackBaron

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Hawke has poor aim and accidentally throws the idol into the wall at ramming speed down in the Deep Roads.

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Orsino's arc is actually coherent and the wtf idol is explained better, so Act III doesn't collapse.

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I think one tiny change won't save the plot for me.

On the top of the list would be

Orsino, Hawke's mom and Cullen.

I would make it more obvious that Orsino has something to hide. Maybe combined with Hawke's mom quest so Hawke saves her and she remembers something that lets Hawke suspect Orsino's connection. A letter signed with O. is a bit too meta. Only because the player only knows one character that starts with an O doesn't mean there is only one in all of Kirkwall. And I would give Cullen more of a backbone. Either in Meredith's direction or against her so he doesn' look like an idiot (again, after Ferelden). Because he is probably having a big role in DA3, probably Knight Commander it seems he gains the title by making alot of mistakes. Which is stupid and I can already say that I am going to hate it in DA3 when it keeps going like this from DA2.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 24 avril 2011 - 08:14 .


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I'd give Hawke a brain
"hmm, Bartram sold the idol of Driving People Bonkers around the same time Meredith started being a loony... I wonder if there's a connection"
"ok so we saw the killer in here, he'd have to have come past us to use the exit... maybe there's a secret door in here and we should keep looking?"
"there's a killer preying on women and luring them with lilies, perhaps I should warn all the women in my life about this"
it's awfully odd that Isabela runs off every time we approach the Qunari, maybe I should talk to her about this..."

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TobiTobsen

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Side with Thrask.

Let Hawke react like this, after Orsino and Meredith turn bat**** insane:

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The ability to stand your ground and fight at the endgame, siding with neither party but rather using your favors and allegiances. You've already proven yourself as Champion up to that point, have your companion and through Aveline the guard on your side, plus possibly a few mages and templars to defect to your side as well.

On that note, I wanted the same for a Male Human Noble in Origins, to take the crown for yourself: At that point in the game (Landsmeet), you're not only the last known surviving member of the Cousland family, but the de-facto Warden-Commander as well. You have the military might and competence, Eamon who owes you big time, his chosen proxy not wanting to rule himself and always deferring to you and Loghain - alive or dead - yielding to you. Also, about those armies, you're basically in a position in which you can threathen to take Ferelden by force or abandon it altogether...

Basically, my main complaint about the series is the inability to achieve greatness through just your own merit and motivations; you always have to side with the lesser of two evils, not being able possibly (eventually) become one yourself. Same goes for the final Origins choice: you either have the creature your spent an entire game to destroy reborn or your best friend sacrificed; taking your responsibility as a Warden had to be the ending that was effectively retconned with the expansequel.

Or maybe I'm just uncomfortable with having to side with power hungry women...

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 24 avril 2011 - 11:19 .


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Rifneno

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In Exile wrote...

Orsino's arc is actually coherent and the wtf idol is explained better, so Act III doesn't collapse.


That's not tiny, that's an entire rewrite.  :)

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Give Hawke the choice to side with those who really need her protection: the people of Kirkwall, instead of having to make a pointless deciscion between Meredith ("MacGuffin? What McGuffin?"), and Orsino ("A Blood-mage? Where?").

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Sabriana wrote...

Give Hawke the choice to side with those who really need her protection: the people of Kirkwall, instead of having to make a pointless deciscion between Meredith ("MacGuffin? What McGuffin?"), and Orsino ("A Blood-mage? Where?").


Meredith isn't exactly the only templar and Orsino isn't exactly the only mage.

I don't know why people keep clammoring for a third option.  I don't know what this third option is supposed to be.  The heavy fighting is taking place in the Gallows where there's no random folk getting caught in the crossfire.

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I'd kind of like an opportunity to apologize to Keran for needlessly screwing up his life (if you got him booted from the templars).

Actually, I'd like to see more of Keran in general. I thought he had decent potential. He's one of... two (three?) templars I'd consider genuinely sympathetic and I would very much like to see how his character developed from "Mages want to kill us all" at the start to joining Grace's secret group.

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Plaintiff wrote...

I'd kind of like an opportunity to apologize to Keran for needlessly screwing up his life (if you got him booted from the templars).

Actually, I'd like to see more of Keran in general. I thought he had decent potential. He's one of... two (three?) templars I'd consider genuinely sympathetic and I would very much like to see how his character developed from "Mages want to kill us all" at the start to joining Grace's secret group.


I'm still kind of on the fence about Keran actually.  It's certainly better for him during the game, but I'm not sure he'd survive the RoA battle.  Or the following conflicts/war.  If he does it'd be nice though, finally a templar that understands what it's like to be on the other side of the fence after having been suspected of possession when he wasn't.

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Rifneno wrote...

Sabriana wrote...

Give Hawke the choice to side with those who really need her protection: the people of Kirkwall, instead of having to make a pointless deciscion between Meredith ("MacGuffin? What McGuffin?"), and Orsino ("A Blood-mage? Where?").


Meredith isn't exactly the only templar and Orsino isn't exactly the only mage.

I don't know why people keep clammoring for a third option.  I don't know what this third option is supposed to be.  The heavy fighting is taking place in the Gallows where there's no random folk getting caught in the crossfire.


They are the respective leaders of their faction. I don't know why "people" keep declaring other peoples wishes as 'clamoring' for another option. You really are annoying with your self-proclaimed "I'm right, because I say so often enough."

I get that you are the Mage Freedom Fighter Extraordinaire. I get that you feel justified in declaring anyone else's decisions that don't coincide with yours as 'vicious, inhuman, monstrous'.

Other people have different ideas and different wishes. Live with it. Move along now.

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Rifneno wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I'd kind of like an opportunity to apologize to Keran for needlessly screwing up his life (if you got him booted from the templars).

Actually, I'd like to see more of Keran in general. I thought he had decent potential. He's one of... two (three?) templars I'd consider genuinely sympathetic and I would very much like to see how his character developed from "Mages want to kill us all" at the start to joining Grace's secret group.


I'm still kind of on the fence about Keran actually.  It's certainly better for him during the game, but I'm not sure he'd survive the RoA battle.  Or the following conflicts/war.  If he does it'd be nice though, finally a templar that understands what it's like to be on the other side of the fence after having been suspected of possession when he wasn't.

I know this thread is for minor changes, but what I would've really liked was to be able to recruit him. It's not believeable to me anyway that Cullen would take a random stranger's word that Keran isn't posessed. I would have him boot Keran regardless and then while the poor boy is wailing outside the Gallows about how his sister's going to starve, you could mention that mercenary work pays pretty well. Not to mention, he's "one of the most promising recruits". The boy was being used as a living battery for blood magic and he doesn't seem any worse for the wear, those mad templar skillz would come in handy. And he'd be a damn sight more bearable than Aveline or Fenris.

But then I guess he'd just be an Alistair clone at that point. Not that I'd have any problems with that, but others might.