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[thermalware]

Get Merill in the sack for the "after the battle" party she promised

[BlueMew]

Being able to support Thrask against Grace would have been nice, yes. Given her whole rant before she murders him, it should have been possible too

[KJandrew]

Finding the Tome of Koslun in a gutter in act 1, giving it to Arishok so he buggers off promptly meaning Hawke doesn't become Champion and doesn't need to get involved the whole templar mage thingy

[Plaintiff]

KJandrew wrote...

Finding the Tome of Koslun in a gutter in act 1, giving it to Arishok so he buggers off promptly meaning Hawke doesn't become Champion and doesn't need to get involved the whole templar mage thingy

What would be the point of a game where you don't get involved in the main conflict at all?

[KJandrew]

Plaintiff wrote...

KJandrew wrote...

Finding the Tome of Koslun in a gutter in act 1, giving it to Arishok so he buggers off promptly meaning Hawke doesn't become Champion and doesn't need to get involved the whole templar mage thingy

What would be the point of a game where you don't get involved in the main conflict at all?

You do get involved. You sit there watching the mages and templars stabbing and blowing each other up until there's only one guy left. Then you walk in a behead him and declare yourself king of everything. (I still have to work out the kinks but i think that would be a much more satisfying conclusion than what we got)

Modifié par KJandrew, 24 avril 2011 - 01:53 .

[Must have name]

#1: Add an ability to kill Petrice in Act I. She's in a lowtown house with no witnesses, Hawke is annoyed as hell at what she's done, and she's let walk away? The only reason for this is so she can appear in Act II. It's pure laziness that we can't kill her.

#2: What Orsino does if you side with the Mages. That is all.

Others: Most of the Act III railroad. Such as being able to refuse to help Meredith, or actually being able to talk with the rebel mages instead of them treating one of the most pro-mage mages as KOS.

[Kreid]

Meeting Meredith and Orsino in act one instead of the end of act two, might have given us some more perspective of those people's stances and motivations, would also made them better antagonists.

[Fruit of the Doom]

Bethany: "Wait... where are we going?"

Leandra: "We can go to Kirkwall!"

Mage Hawke: "Kirkwall?"

*cue musical montage of Meredith and her templars singing about oppressing mages*

Leandra: "On second thought, let's not go to Kirkwall.  It is a silly place."

ROLL CREDITS

[AlexXIV]

Fruit of the Doom wrote...

Bethany: "Wait... where are we going?"

Leandra: "We can go to Kirkwall!"

Mage Hawke: "Kirkwall?"

*cue musical montage of Meredith and her templars singing about oppressing mages*

Leandra: "On second thought, let's not go to Kirkwall.  It is a silly place."

ROLL CREDITS

Actually this would be ok with alot of people who wish DA2 had never happened.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 24 avril 2011 - 02:13 .

[Rifneno]

Sabriana wrote...

They are the respective leaders of their faction. I don't know why "people" keep declaring other peoples wishes as 'clamoring' for another option. You really are annoying with your self-proclaimed "I'm right, because I say so often enough."

I get that you are the Mage Freedom Fighter Extraordinaire. I get that you feel justified in declaring anyone else's decisions that don't coincide with yours as 'vicious, inhuman, monstrous'.

Other people have different ideas and different wishes. Live with it. Move along now.

I don't really see any part of that that explains how "protecting the public" makes sense when the fighting is really going on away from the public anyway.  Not real sure how well a final mission where you fight a few stragglers and call it a day would be recieved on a gameplay level.  Or how the story would make sense, since it seems to require both leaders to die at Hawke's hand.  Feel free to keep ranting about my personality though, that works too.

Plaintiff wrote...
I know this thread is for minor changes, but what I would've really liked was to be able to recruit him. It's not believeable to me anyway that Cullen would take a random stranger's word that Keran isn't posessed. I would have him boot Keran regardless and then while the poor boy is wailing outside the Gallows about how his sister's going to starve, you could mention that mercenary work pays pretty well. Not to mention, he's "one of the most promising recruits". The boy was being used as a living battery for blood magic and he doesn't seem any worse for the wear, those mad templar skillz would come in handy. And he'd be a damn sight more bearable than Aveline or Fenris.

But then I guess he'd just be an Alistair clone at that point. Not that I'd have any problems with that, but others might.

Ha.  I think the game would be a lot better off with an Alistair clone.  Alistair's far more tolerable than any companion in DA2.  But you're right, using that storyline to add Keran as a recruitable party member would be much better than the current route in which Cullen loves Hawke long time for no apparent reason.  I think Uldred must've done something more than we know about.  That boy ain't right.

[mcsupersport]

Must have name wrote...

#1: Add an ability to kill Petrice in Act I. She's in a lowtown house with no witnesses, Hawke is annoyed as hell at what she's done, and she's let walk away? The only reason for this is so she can appear in Act II. It's pure laziness that we can't kill her.

#2: What Orsino does if you side with the Mages. That is all.

Others: Most of the Act III railroad. Such as being able to refuse to help Meredith, or actually being able to talk with the rebel mages instead of them treating one of the most pro-mage mages as KOS.

This pretty much sums up the minor changes I would make to the game.  Why they HAD to have #2 the way they did is just silly, and #1 grated to no end.  I am a generally nice guy but someone who tries to kill me usually dies if the game allows and to have the situation set up like they did in Petrice and having to let her walk.....ahhhh.

[Ulicus]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

The ability to stand your ground and fight at the endgame, siding with neither party but rather using your favors and allegiances. You've already proven yourself as Champion up to that point, have your companion and through Aveline the guard on your side, plus possibly a few mages and templars to defect to your side as well.

On that note, I wanted the same for a Male Human Noble in Origins, to take the crown for yourself: At that point in the game (Landsmeet), you're not only the last known surviving member of the Cousland family, but the de-facto Warden-Commander as well. You have the military might and competence, Eamon who owes you big time, his chosen proxy not wanting to rule himself and always deferring to you and Loghain - alive or dead - yielding to you. Also, about those armies, you're basically in a position in which you can threathen to take Ferelden by force or abandon it altogether...

Basically, my main complaint about the series is the inability to achieve greatness through just your own merit and motivations; you always have to side with the lesser of two evils, not being able possibly (eventually) become one yourself. Same goes for the final Origins choice: you either have the creature your spent an entire game to destroy reborn or your best friend sacrificed; taking your responsibility as a Warden had to be the ending that was effectively retconned with the expansequel.

Or maybe I'm just uncomfortable with having to side with power hungry women...

Great post, there.  I find I quite agree.

Though, regarding DA:O, I see no reason a female Cousland couldn't have taken the crown in her own right, either.

[Brawne]

Redesign Arishok duel. It's complete joke.

[AlexXIV]

Ulicus wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

The ability to stand your ground and fight at the endgame, siding with neither party but rather using your favors and allegiances. You've already proven yourself as Champion up to that point, have your companion and through Aveline the guard on your side, plus possibly a few mages and templars to defect to your side as well.

On that note, I wanted the same for a Male Human Noble in Origins, to take the crown for yourself: At that point in the game (Landsmeet), you're not only the last known surviving member of the Cousland family, but the de-facto Warden-Commander as well. You have the military might and competence, Eamon who owes you big time, his chosen proxy not wanting to rule himself and always deferring to you and Loghain - alive or dead - yielding to you. Also, about those armies, you're basically in a position in which you can threathen to take Ferelden by force or abandon it altogether...

Basically, my main complaint about the series is the inability to achieve greatness through just your own merit and motivations; you always have to side with the lesser of two evils, not being able possibly (eventually) become one yourself. Same goes for the final Origins choice: you either have the creature your spent an entire game to destroy reborn or your best friend sacrificed; taking your responsibility as a Warden had to be the ending that was effectively retconned with the expansequel.

Or maybe I'm just uncomfortable with having to side with power hungry women...

Great post, there.  I find I quite agree.

Though, regarding DA:O, I see no reason a female Cousland couldn't have taken the crown in her own right, either.

The plot demands it. Alistair needs to be king or Anora queen or both.

[The Angry One]

Int. Primordial Thiag

Varric: Bartrand! Look at this idol! Pure lyrium I think!

Bartrand: *whistles*

Varric: *tosses idol to Bartrand*

Bartrand: Whoops! Ah! *fumbles and misses the idol*

*SMASH*

Hawke: You broke the idol. You broke the bloody idol!

Varric: I should've known Bartrand would have fingers made of butter!

Bartrand: I had just eaten cake! I had icing on my hands! How was I supposed to know you'd throw that thing at me!

Varric: YOU ATE THE LAST CAKE! What kind of brother are you! 

Hawke: <_<

[Everwarden]

Rifneno wrote...

In Exile wrote...

Orsino's arc is actually coherent and the wtf idol is explained better, so Act III doesn't collapse.

That's not tiny, that's an entire rewrite.  

Act III needed an entire rewrite, sadly. 

[AlexXIV]

Everwarden wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

In Exile wrote...

Orsino's arc is actually coherent and the wtf idol is explained better, so Act III doesn't collapse.

That's not tiny, that's an entire rewrite.  

Act III needed an entire rewrite, sadly. 

Not necessarily. It needs to explain things that happen better and why. And ... well in a way that makes more sense. And is not so obviously rushed to meet certain plot checkpoints.

[Mykel54]

Too many changes i am afraid, but if it was only one, then: Allow Hawke to save his mother with the help of that blood mage, then his mother would hate hawke for using blood magic. That should give a decent moral drama.

I wouldn´t bother making a little change for the ending because one small change won´t fix it, on the other hand this fix the mother quest would add more depth.

[Camenae]

If the game let me get Cullen in the sack as a Mage, I wouldn't care if the rest of the game was comprised entirely of Leliana dancing around like the headless horseman and Orsino the Harvester wearing a sign that says "I don't do blood magic" and other things that make no sense.

[PunchoT]

Kill Merril.

[Faroth]

I'd have made it possible for you to defy Anders "no compromise" plot and, as another said, stand against both the Circle and Templar to try and further the Resolutionist view of a symbiotic relationship with mage and templar working together.

[KJandrew]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

On that note, I wanted the same for a Male Human Noble in Origins, to take the crown for yourself: At that point in the game (Landsmeet), you're not only the last known surviving member of the Cousland family, but the de-facto Warden-Commander as well. You have the military might and competence, Eamon who owes you big time, his chosen proxy not wanting to rule himself and always deferring to you and Loghain - alive or dead - yielding to you. Also, about those armies, you're basically in a position in which you can threathen to take Ferelden by force or abandon it altogether...
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Yeah this part in Origins really. Alistair is a bastard so technically he doesn't have any claim to the throne what so ever and Anora seems to be in quite a weak bargining position compared to me so why do i have to become her Prince-Consort?
Also if i was just one of those random people in the Landsmeet i wouldn't trust Eamon. I mean the King is killed and Eamon just pops up with a claimant that no-one else knew about. I'd just reckon he was trying to take power himself

[Big I]

Make it so you don't fight whoever you side with in the Endgame

[Icy Magebane]

I'd like the ability to kill (or simply fire, if you are less bloodthirsty than myself) any companions at any point in the game. They can be replaced by generic mercenaries from the Coaterie (sp?) if you feel like spending some coin to hire them.

Oh, and how about not giving 100+ exp for opening locked chests. Sometimes you get more exp for opening a chest than fighting a room full of creatures. Kind of silly, IMO...

[tiernanlshaw]

i would have like the interupt option that me2 had in a LOT of situations. mostly when people get killed in dialogue when you could clearly stop it. thrask, the escaped elfs wife, etc, etc. i hated being this uber badass that seemed to always be a day late and a dollar short