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[AngryFrozenWater]

I've just watched a Dark Souls interview and it is still rather vague. They seem to focus on exploration (which is a good thing). It was nice to see them respond to a question about the difficulty of the game for US gamers (who thought the first 10 minutes of the original were too hard). They smiled and stated that it was probably just as hard or harder. Ghehe.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 24 avril 2011 - 01:41 .

[chart4ever]

Elton John is dead wrote...
Dark Souls is on 360 too this time. So yes. Finally. A dark hardcore RPG that will put The Witcher 2 to shame.

I rly doubt it. If I remember right if you died in it's spiritual sequel (Demon's Souls) you were forced to start the mission/level again.



The Witcher 2 won't force you to do that thus it will attract more audience.



HOWEVER, it's has been annouced that there will be a HARDCORE difficulty in which when you die it's GAME OVER.

Modifié par chart4ever, 24 avril 2011 - 01:42 .

[LyndseyCousland]

The games are a bit too different to be comparing in my opinion. However I wonder how Skyrim will do with bugs. My guess? Mega glitchfest. Oblivion is still a pit of broken snakes.

[fchopin]

Dark Souls does look like a good game so i will probably get the game for PS3.

[Teredan]

[quote]Elton John is dead wrote...
Dark Souls is on 360 too this time. So yes. Finally. A dark hardcore RPG that will put The Witcher 2 to shame. [/quote]
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The Witcher 2 doesn't even really aim to be a hardcore RPG in the line of Dark Souls. Dark Souls is all about the punishing but rewarding gameplay. The Witcher will be most likely more story centric since it's inspired from the books.

Modifié par Teredan, 24 avril 2011 - 01:46 .

[Dr Bawbag]

I admit to being a grade 'A' Beth fanboy, however, something most people forget when they're fawning over an upcoming Beth title is the game will be a bug fest when it first hits the shelves, like every other Beth game has been. The worst part of it though, Beth make no attempt whatsoever to iron out the majority of those bugs and the remaining issues, whereas BioWare at least attempt to fix the game breakers.

The Beth forums will be full of haters and people spewing vitriol just like these forums were. I still remember when Morrowind was released you had the majority of people claiming they wouldn't touch another TES game as long as they lived.

[AngryFrozenWater]

LyndseyCousland wrote...

The games are a bit too different to be comparing in my opinion. However I wonder how Skyrim will do with bugs. My guess? Mega glitchfest. Oblivion is still a pit of broken snakes.

Lets be honest about this... DA2 isn't doing well either. BW doesn't have a good track record when it comes to patches. The 1.02 patch didn't fix the 100+ bugs as promised. It seems that BW tries to create another patch, but I am not holding my breath. At least Skyrim will have a construction set to allow mods and create community patches. There is even a chance that mods can be used on consoles. Whether Beth, MS and Sony can deliver that remains to be seen, though.

[chart4ever]

Buggy or not, in the end Morrowind and Oblivion were superb games with a lot of customization option given by the Construction Set.

Modifié par chart4ever, 24 avril 2011 - 01:56 .

[Gavinthelocust]

Dr Bawbag wrote...

I admit to being a grade 'A' Beth fanboy, however, something most people forget when they're fawning over an upcoming Beth title is the game will be a bug fest when it first hits the shelves, like every other Beth game has been. The worst part of it though, Beth make no attempt whatsoever to iron out the majority of those bugs and the remaining issues, whereas BioWare at least attempt to fix the game breakers.

The Beth forums will be full of haters and people spewing vitriol just like these forums were. I still remember when Morrowind was released you had the majority of people claiming they wouldn't touch another TES game as long as they lived.

Bethesda does have a habit of releasing buggy games, but I can usually see past them if they're not gamebreaking. It'll hopefully be less buggy than Fallout New Vegas which seemed like they didn't even play test it.

Haters are a natural part of sequels, it's happening to Portal 2 right now and they're using some of the same arguments as people here. I find it rather funny but I'm sure the people who hate DA2 here don't want to be compared to the same idiots who boycotted L4D2 and think Portal 2 is shorter than Portal 1.

[noneofyourbussines77]

I always wait for the game of the year for Bethesda games, they aren't good enoughfor me to rush for them, this saves money and gives them time to fix glitches.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

LyndseyCousland wrote...

The games are a bit too different to be comparing in my opinion. However I wonder how Skyrim will do with bugs. My guess? Mega glitchfest. Oblivion is still a pit of broken snakes.

Lets be honest about this... DA2 isn't doing well either. BW doesn't have a good track record when it comes to patches. The 1.02 patch didn't fix the 100+ bugs as promised. It seems that BW tries to create another patch, but I am not holding my breath. At least Skyrim will have a construction set to allow mods and create community patches. There is even a chance that mods can be used on consoles. Whether Beth, MS and Sony can deliver that remains to be seen, though.

Didn't Bioware support NWN with like 5-6 years of patches with either content or bug fixes?

That's a pretty good track record if you ask me.

Any game built on the Gamebyro engine requires a good month or so of patching before it's good enough to play.

But hell, I'm used to buggy games. Any list of my favourite RPGs would include New Vegas, VtmB, Morrowind, PS:T, the original Fallouts, etc etc

All buggy and I love them despite their technical flaws.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 24 avril 2011 - 01:58 .

[chart4ever]

Can you not like Bethesda games?

Modifié par chart4ever, 24 avril 2011 - 01:59 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

mrcrusty wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

LyndseyCousland wrote...

The games are a bit too different to be comparing in my opinion. However I wonder how Skyrim will do with bugs. My guess? Mega glitchfest. Oblivion is still a pit of broken snakes.

Lets be honest about this... DA2 isn't doing well either. BW doesn't have a good track record when it comes to patches. The 1.02 patch didn't fix the 100+ bugs as promised. It seems that BW tries to create another patch, but I am not holding my breath. At least Skyrim will have a construction set to allow mods and create community patches. There is even a chance that mods can be used on consoles. Whether Beth, MS and Sony can deliver that remains to be seen, though.

Didn't Bioware support NWN with like 5-6 years of patches with either content or bug fixes?

That's a pretty good track record if you ask me.

Any game built on the Gamebyro engine requires a good month or so of patching before it's good enough to play.

But hell, I'm used to buggy games. Any list of my favourite RPGs would include New Vegas, VtmB, Morrowind, PS:T, the original Fallouts, etc etc

All buggy and I love them despite their technical flaws.

Interesting. The 2 year support for DA:O was a lie, though. Look at the DA:O wikia and count the number of bugs documented there. The same goes for ME1 and ME2. Nah. Those 5 to 6 years of you were in a far and grey past.

Edit: BTW, Skyrim is not using the Gamebryo engine.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 24 avril 2011 - 02:06 .

[Guliver]

sympathy4saren wrote...

Skyrim comes out on November 11. Is Dragon Age 2 going to stand up against the latest Elder Scrolls entry?

You compare this to Dragon Age series? You must be joking.. 

From all the games out there with the same medieval type setting I think only The Witcher could compare with Dragon Age but I personally like DA more because I have played mmo's long enough to don't care about the world exploring that much as for quests, companions, voice acting and great story which Dragon Age series is best to deliver. 

[Serpieri Nei]

Whats sad is that DA2 became the game to play while waiting for Skyrim. Only problem there is that DA2 barely lasted 30 hrs.

[Chuvvy]

makalathbonagin wrote...

ohhh yes
enjoy your skyrim with 6 voice actors in the whole game

DA2 has 6 dungeons in the whole game.

Modifié par Slidell505, 24 avril 2011 - 02:08 .

[Bio-Age]

Slidell505 wrote...

makalathbonagin wrote...

ohhh yes
enjoy your skyrim with 6 voice actors in the whole game

DA2 has 6 dungeons in the whole game.

So true, will take maps over voice.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Meh. Considering that the three big western RPG developers are (imo) Bethesda, Bioware and Obsidian, I'd say Bioware deserves credit for being the least buggy mainstream RPG developer. They get playable games on release. Which is almost more than what I can say for Obsidian or Bethesda.

But really, they make different types of games.

I said in my first post here that Bethesda makes sandbox RPGs with a focus on gameplay and exploration.

Bioware on the other hand, makes (now) action RPGs with a focus on narrative and characters.

Obsidian apparently, just makes whatever they're hired to make. I have read that several senior members of Obsidian want to get the D&D license from Atari to make Icewind Dale 3 though. Now that would be epic.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 24 avril 2011 - 02:12 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Guliver wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...

Skyrim comes out on November 11. Is Dragon Age 2 going to stand up against the latest Elder Scrolls entry?

You compare this to Dragon Age series? You must be joking..

Yes... That would be a joke. But the OP has probably this in mind:

TES V: Skyrim.

[Eski.Moe]

Skyrim has had a development cycle that has spanning 4 years (maybe even more), DA2 had a year and a half. You figure it out.

[Gotholhorakh]

sympathy4saren wrote...

Skyrim comes out on November 11. Is Dragon Age 2 going to stand up against the latest Elder Scrolls entry?

While I thought (unmodded) Oblivion was pretty much uninspiring, I was pleasantly surprised at how amazing FO3 turned out to be.

If Skyrim were to take a turn in FO3's direction (more, better content, more interesting stuff happening) it could be pretty fantastic, for want of a more apt word.

I can't in good faith answer yes.

Guliver wrote...
You compare this to Dragon Age series? You must be joking.. 

Haha, I didn't see that link for a second, and thought by "this" you meant DA2.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 24 avril 2011 - 02:36 .

[Nexpeed]

The only thing i don't like about TES series is they get really boring after a week of exploration, plus your companions(if there is even one or with mods) don't interact with you, both Bethesda and BW have their pros and cons, i finished Oblivion years ago but unable to finish Shivering isles(got bored), i played and finished DA:O and all it's dlc's, seems i prefer more companion interaction with an attitude than exploration

[Gotholhorakh]

Nexpeed wrote...

The only thing i don't like about TES series is they get really boring after a week of exploration, plus your companions(if there is even one or with mods) don't interact with you, both Bethesda and BW have their pros and cons, i finished Oblivion years ago but unable to finish Shivering isles(got bored), i played and finished DA:O and all it's dlc's, seems i prefer more companion interaction with an attitude than exploration

Yeah, Oblivion didn't hold a candle to DA:O for me, for similar reasons (although story/party-based RPGs are a different experience, I suppose).

[Sabriana]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Yes... That would be a joke. But the OP has probably this in mind:

TES V: Skyrim.

Oh my.... *wipes drool off chin*

That looks very good. But I'll  still wait until the first wave of inevitable bugs are found and wiped out. Bethesda's track record concerning bugs is pretty bad.

And I agree on this: Of the 3 big ones, Bioware has the best record for playable games on release. At least for me. I never encountered a game-breaking bug in a Bioware game so far. Knock on wood.