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[afhdjs]

It just lacks the same "epicness" compared to DAO, and here's my reasons:

1. No sense of urgency. Nothing is more epic than a sense that the end of the world is coming soon and you are the only one to stop it. A 10 year story, most of it about you making a name for yourself just doesn't show this.

2. No spectacular locations, lore, creatures etc. Think about it, DA2 almost didn't introduce any new creatures. I kinda thought from Witch Hunt that they were going to show us a great fabled location, like Arlathan or something, and they didn't. Nor did they really show us some great secret about Thedas (ex. Darkspawn were produced by Broodmothers etc.) either.

3. Qunari invasion mishandled. If they were going to show us an invasion, they should make a whole game about it. Maybe they could in a future DA, but with the arishok and a lot of aspects of the Qunari already shown it just doesn't seem as great anymore. Plus, qunari invasion could have been much better with you as the warden. You might have to face the uncomfortable choice of confronting Sten in battle and killing him.

4. No giant armies. DAO had a LoTR feel, with armies marching, fighting. DA2 has none of it.

5. No spectacular villain, or a central villain. Meredith (who is only one in a string of enemies) is no archdemon, and DA2 could have been much better with big supernatural villain.

Yeah, I know, they are setting DA2 up for a spectacular battle between mages and the chantry in DA3. However, they should have shown at least some sense of how big this battle is going to be at the end of the game.

[Edhriano]

afhdjs wrote...

It just lacks the same "epicness" compared to DAO, and here's my reasons:

3. Qunari invasion mishandled. If they were going to show us an invasion, they should make a whole game about it. Maybe they could in a future DA, but with the arishok and a lot of aspects of the Qunari already shown it just doesn't seem as great anymore. Plus, qunari invasion could have been much better with you as the warden. You might have to face the uncomfortable choice of confronting Sten in battle and killing him.

Oh that would be very interesting indeed.

To answer your question

short answer : NO
long answer : HELL NO!

(what can I say? I love sten <3 ).

[Huntress]

The game is not epic per say, but is not bad, I have fun playing it.

Since they annouced DA2 they told us that the game was NOT in anyway about saving the world. It was about getting to power by all means.

They introduced Kirwall, and we killed 2 of the elves god type of creature... not many people bought Awakening so this creature would have been new to them.

Yes Even if isabela bring the book they still want to continue the invasion, i think they need females for some.. massage?... just saying

Agree Meredith should have been kept alive if you side with templars, or Orsino kept alive if you side with mages.. thats why the end is a bit depressing.

I belive many and many people are unhappy with the end, to me it was not an end, not very sure if there is going to be one.

[Bio-Age]

Epic In Mediocracy definately. It can't stand against any of the great action games out there.

[gotthammer]

NO.

And while a story doesn't have to be epic, it should, at the least, still feel coherent.

[abaris]

Huntress wrote...

Since they annouced DA2 they told us that the game was NOT in anyway about saving the world. It was about getting to power by all means.

And what an interesting premise that is. No sarcasm, no irony, but a big BUT.

Its the hardest trick to pull storywise and it requires a lot of love for details and choices. As far as I observed none of that is present.

[Aaleel]

The game was not epic for me as some world traveling adventure with a great villain. But it also wasn't even epic as a personal story. Start Hawke out in Lothering as an everyday person, develop the family concept if you're going to give me a family. Your mother is living with you for the better part of 2 acts, how many conversations do you have with her?  How many family related quests after Birthright?

How well were the relationships with you companions developed? Aveline gets married, were you there? All you get is "how was the honeymoon". After the time skips the conversations were like old college classmates catching up who hadn't seen each other in a while, not people who have had long friendships.

Even if you don't show what Hawke did during the time skips, it doesn't mean you can't show things that are the result of actions done during the time skips to help fill in that time frame.

I didn't mind the non saving the world, grand adventure idea. But they failed on making it an epic story of the rise of Hawke from nothing to Champion.

Modifié par Aaleel, 24 avril 2011 - 06:15 .

[Zcorck]

What gotthammer said.
Aside from that, epicness does not factor into DA2.

[afhdjs]

Zcorck wrote...

What gotthammer said.
Aside from that, epicness does not factor into DA2.

Maybe, but sequels are usually bigger than originals. But then again you can say DA2 isn't really much of a sequel to DAO (no character continuity etc.)

[Monica83]

Not its just mediocre

[Merced652]

Aaleel wrote...

The game was not epic for me as some world traveling adventure with a great villain. But it also wasn't even epic as a personal story. Start Hawke out in Lothering as an everyday person, develop the family concept if you're going to give me a family. Your mother is living with you for the better part of 2 acts, how many conversations do you have with her?  How many family related quests after Birthright?

How well were the relationships with you companions developed? Aveline gets married, were you there? All you get is "how was the honeymoon". After the time skips the conversations were like old college classmates catching up who hadn't seen each other in a while, not people who have had long friendships.

Even if you don't show what Hawke did during the time skips, it doesn't mean you can't show things that are the result of actions done during the time skips to help fill in that time frame.

I didn't mind the non saving the world, grand adventure idea. But they failed on making it an epic story of the rise of Hawke from nothing to Champion.

good post. 

[Elhanan]

Yep; epic confrontations and decisions were good enough. I did prefer the storyline and companions from DAO, but am content with the saga of the Champion.

[neppakyo]

Epic? hell no. And average story doesn't deserve the word "epic" near it.

Nothing epic about piddling around and gobbing off your handsome friend ™

[higherice]

It was totally epic. I mean at the end the final boss had this huge glowly sword of awesome. at the end of DA all u did was fight a dragon... that was exactly the same as all the other dragons in da 1 and 2

[Death Dealer412]

i personally feel that none of my decisions really had any emotional consquences like in the first dragon age. I never really felt emotionally attached to any character at all during the game. Origins had that feel when it came to certain characters and decisions. Who knows maybe there will be future DLC that describes how everyone got to kirkwall including the Qunari.

[Sylvianus]

Not at all.

I felt excited only during the battle against qunari, after it immediatly fall. Otherwise I'm bored throughout the game. Absolutely not epic.

[Monica83]

The end boss was something like ridicolus... Look im meredith lightsaber! WOOOON! WOOOOON!

[higherice]

Monica83 wrote...

The end boss was something like ridicolus... Look im meredith lightsaber! WOOOON! WOOOOON!

Uh I thought that was really cool

[Monica83]

higherice wrote...

Monica83 wrote...

The end boss was something like ridicolus... Look im meredith lightsaber! WOOOON! WOOOOON!

Uh I thought that was really cool

Glade you liked it......but i prefear other bosses... like mhhh for example...

Jhon Irenicus?

[Blastback]

The first 2/3rds of the game, yes. the Third act, no. Bioware hyped up being Champion of Kirkwall, when in the end, all that ment was that I was now running errands for the Templars and the Mages. I know that it did have at least some impact, but even the final desision of who I sided with felt like it didn't matter.

[Romantiq]

I think it's wrong to put word "EPIC" anywhere close to "Dragon Age II"

Some people might be eager to hand in such...honor to a game just for lame blood splatters and corpse explosions but not me. I don't like turd shaped ice cream if you know what I mean.

Modifié par Romantiq, 24 avril 2011 - 08:07 .

[Oloria]

No, it wasn't a traditional epic fantasy story. Epic to me is about scope. DAO was epic, since the warden travels the whole of Fereldan, has influence over major things like the ruler of two nations, etc, whereas Hawke's influence (in DA2 at least) is confined to within Kirkwall and mostly affects the personal lives of citizens.

I still enjoyed DA2 for what it was though.

Possibly DA2 is laying the foundation for a follow-up "epic" story. The cliffhanger at the end refers to a larger scale conflict, possibly spanning the whole of Thedas.

[L33TDAWG]

God, I hope no one considers DA2 to be "epic." It was a monster pile of **** on top of all the greatness BioWare put out.
I fathome the thought of a sequel and don't want one. DA2 was the biggest waste of 60 dollars and hardware space, ever!

Modifié par L33TDAWG, 24 avril 2011 - 08:35 .

[Mecher3k]

DA2 was not epic, even though it easily could of been even with the same basic storyline.

*sad face*