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killing the rachni. your thoughts?


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Clonedzero

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i'm replaying ME1 again and i just killed the rachni for the first time. i think its actually a good call.

i mean they apparently have a fragile hive mind that can be tampered with. they can reproduce at an alarming rate. they brought the galaxy to its knees once already. they can mind control people and corpses. according to all the codexes and history bits in the game all that triggered the rachni war was someone wandering into rachni occupied space and them freaking out.

so i mean we COULD believe this single queen, or she could just be lying. i dont trust it at all. plus its a massive threat.

also i dont get why everyone yelled at me for commiting genocide when all i did was kill one queen and a bunch of mindless drones.

some might say ill have one less ally to fight the reapers with in ME3, me, i think i'll have one less enemy to fight in ME3.

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personally i don't care, i will fight anyone who gets in my way, i won't kill them simply to get an easier me3 save

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gogman25

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Yeah, y'know - if they go rogue on us we just use bug spray.

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Pani Mauser

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I just don't feel good about pouring acid onto living being in general. And here we have sentient living being who is begging to let them live. Maybe, if there was less horrible way of executing, just put her to sleep or something, I would consider killing her on couple playtroughs. But pouring acid onto the helpless conscious creature who will feel hell of a pain is way beyond cruel. And even if she turns on us later, there's nothing Commander Shepard can't handle!

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JamieCOTC

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I don't think the rachni queen was lying. That said, they could still be a threat as they are (apparently) easily indoctrinated. Also, siding w/ the rachni could hamper things w/ the Krogan, we just don't know yet. Rachni husks have been confirmed, but that doesn't mean letting the queen live will ultimately bite you in the ass.

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PMC65

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If you have Wrex with you he is not impressed if you let her live.

I have one Shep that I play in a "real life" mind frame and killing her in that game seemed more honest to what I would really do than letting her live. I just could not see risking the future on an already extinct species. Given what my Shep has heard about the rachni, it would be like deciding on the fate of a Tyrannosaurus rex. The risks were too high no matter what she "promised".

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PMC65 wrote...

If you have Wrex with you he is not impressed if you let her live.

I have one Shep that I play in a "real life" mind frame and killing her in that game seemed more honest to what I would really do than letting her live. I just could not see risking the future on an already extinct species. Given what my Shep has heard about the rachni, it would be like deciding on the fate of a Tyrannosaurus rex. The risks were too high no matter what she "promised".

yeah, thats how i felt about it. let loose a very dangerous creature who can quickly create an army that can overwhelm entire systems, or kill it and keep things as they are.

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I just could not see risking the future on an already extinct species. Given what my Shep has heard about the rachni, it would be like deciding on the fate of a Tyrannosaurus rex. The risks were too high no matter what she "promised".


I'd have agreed with this before, but talking to the queen totally changed my perspective.

The Rachni Queen proved its not a beast like the T-Rex, but that it's intelligent. Dinosaurs don't communicate through dead people or create their own ships. The very reason the rachni we encountered in the facility were hostile was our own fault, we seperated it from its mother, and they developed incorrectly. The scientist you meet to initiate that neutron purge said it himself, they are a great species, our interference was what messed them up. We don't know what caused them to become a galactic threat that had to be wiped out a few years ago, but that's not a crime for which this queen was responsible.

Ultimately, I felt this species deserved to be given a chance to create anew, especially when it has given its word to do so peacefully. Can it be trusted? Maybe, maybe not. But you can't just go about killing anything/anyone that might be a threat, or you can justify killing everybody. Who am I to deny it life/freedom because I perceive it a "risk"?

Modifié par Hah Yes Reapers, 24 avril 2011 - 08:38 .


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Sebby

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Speaking realistically, killing the Rachni Queen is the best choice. There's no evidence at the time she was telling the truth and not just trying to BS her way out of an acid bath. The potential risk of unleashing vicious bugs that multiply faster than rats against civilization outweighs the chance she might be peaceful.

Ideally the best choice would have been to wipe out the other Rachni first and keep her stored away until it can be determined if she really will be peaceful.

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The first and only peacefult contact with the rachni in history, and we should respond by killing them?

If you kill the rachni you make Shepard a party to genocide, because you're wiping out the only free rachni the krogan missed.

EDIT: It's also cold blooded murder for something the queen didn't do. She didn't start any war, and is begging for her life.

Modifié par LookingGlass93, 24 avril 2011 - 08:58 .


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The rachni are a dead race on half my Sheps.

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I actually think the queen will be true to her word and aid shepard in the battle to come. BUT, the Reapers supposedly soured their songs once already. What's stopping them from doing it again?

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They're giant space bugs. Ones that can apparently literally use other species as 'puppets'.

Yeah, no way that can go wrong.

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I have no problem in killing them . Plus I hate giant space bugs

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Clonedzero

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ExtremeOne wrote...

I have no problem in killing them . Plus I hate giant space bugs

the only good bug is a dead bug!

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thats very true

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Legbiter wrote...

The rachni are a dead race on half my Sheps.

But they are alive and well on the other half of your Sheps

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Rachni were controlled as a tool of the reapers when the Rachni Wars were going on. I have faith in the race, the queen was very gratified and even left you a message. I see them as being a great ally in the future

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If they stay loyal, great, I'll have another ally. If not, I'll have Mess Sergeant Gardner bread them in coconut batter and deep fry them. It's a win-win.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

They're giant space bugs. Ones that can apparently literally use other species as 'puppets'.

Yeah, no way that can go wrong.


And if a Queen gets indoctrinated then all her underlings do too.

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The logical choice is to kill them with the information you had at the time. That does not make it the right choice. I'm sure all the people in my age range can come up with multiple star trek references for this. But hey I have both methods on my play throughs just to see the result.

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bobobo878 wrote...

If they stay loyal, great, I'll have another ally. If not, I'll have Mess Sergeant Gardner bread them in coconut batter and deep fry them. It's a win-win.


+1

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Had them exterminated. A regrettable necessity. But their very nature makes them very hard if impossible to integrate into a galactic community, and it makes them a very potential short and long term threat.

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If i am right about letting them live, i feel better about myself and confident in any decision i've made thus far.

If I am wrong, i just found who's front line shock troopers. They all die, but the reapers are weakened. Everyone is happy.... except the bugs and the ships that look like bugs.

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Meh. If the Rachni come back to fight against Shepard in ME3, those who killed the Rachni Queen in ME1 will just be made to fight someone else. Or another type of Rachni.

Bioware won't make a game with one decision leading to extra battles. It will be equal, but different.