What was so great about Tali?
#126
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:10
#127
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:15
She was a young confused little girl who don't know much of the universe in ME, then when you meet her in ME2 she's a grown woman who earn the respect of her people and became a leader.
That's why she's my favorite character along with Garrus, She's my girl and he's my Bro.
#128
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:26
Hav to say her voice was one of the things I really disliked about her, really got on my nerves.Nashiktal wrote...
One of the reasons I like her is Liz Sroka's voice. Everything else is just icing on that smooth voice-cake.
#129
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:39
higherice wrote...
Hav to say her voice was one of the things I really disliked about her, really got on my nerves.Nashiktal wrote...
One of the reasons I like her is Liz Sroka's voice. Everything else is just icing on that smooth voice-cake.
Welp, can't do nothing about that for you.
#130
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:41
Modifié par N7 Vanguard, 24 avril 2011 - 11:41 .
#131
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:43
I totally agree, I just can't bond with someone who doesn't have facial features.N7 Vanguard wrote...
Tali is a weak character IMO, other than being shy and "nerdy" as people like to refer to her, she is whiny and not the best company.I would much rather enjoy the company of someone who has actual facial features and a strong hearted attitude. Deal with it.
#132
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:47
really i kinda feel like she got less mature in ME2. like she regressed as a character instead of progressed.MajorStranger wrote...
It's her development that I like.
She was a young confused little girl who don't know much of the universe in ME, then when you meet her in ME2 she's a grown woman who earn the respect of her people and became a leader.
That's why she's my favorite character along with Garrus, She's my girl and he's my Bro.
she's a horrible leader getting everyone killed in both instances of her leadership in ME2; in all her audio logs she's crying that she wished shepard was there. she's overly sensitive and awkward. far more so than in ME1.
she went from the nerdy alien chick to the nerdy needy incompitent cute alien chick.
also even though its fairly minor, gameplaywise she's always been the least useful character in both games. garrus and kaidan are better for all your tech related needs and also pack a decent punch that tali doesnt. ME2 she's well useless. has the horrible heavy pistol / shotgun combo and doesnt have any particularly useful skills.
honestly i'd have to say tali is the most overrated mass effect character.
#133
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:50
Clonedzero wrote...
really i kinda feel like she got less mature in ME2. like she regressed as a character instead of progressed.MajorStranger wrote...
It's her development that I like.
She was a young confused little girl who don't know much of the universe in ME, then when you meet her in ME2 she's a grown woman who earn the respect of her people and became a leader.
That's why she's my favorite character along with Garrus, She's my girl and he's my Bro.
she's a horrible leader getting everyone killed in both instances of her leadership in ME2; in all her audio logs she's crying that she wished shepard was there. she's overly sensitive and awkward. far more so than in ME1.
she went from the nerdy alien chick to the nerdy needy incompitent cute alien chick.
also even though its fairly minor, gameplaywise she's always been the least useful character in both games. garrus and kaidan are better for all your tech related needs and also pack a decent punch that tali doesnt. ME2 she's well useless. has the horrible heavy pistol / shotgun combo and doesnt have any particularly useful skills.
honestly i'd have to say tali is the most overrated mass effect character.
People died in her missions because they don't follow orders. Yeah she's not the most useful character in combat but that's not why she's here, I like her personnality even though I almost never used her during combat.
#134
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:51
They didn't follow orders because they didn't respect/like her/she was a bad leader. Ignoring the fact she was right.MajorStranger wrote...
Clonedzero wrote...
really i kinda feel like she got less mature in ME2. like she regressed as a character instead of progressed.MajorStranger wrote...
It's her development that I like.
She was a young confused little girl who don't know much of the universe in ME, then when you meet her in ME2 she's a grown woman who earn the respect of her people and became a leader.
That's why she's my favorite character along with Garrus, She's my girl and he's my Bro.
she's a horrible leader getting everyone killed in both instances of her leadership in ME2; in all her audio logs she's crying that she wished shepard was there. she's overly sensitive and awkward. far more so than in ME1.
she went from the nerdy alien chick to the nerdy needy incompitent cute alien chick.
also even though its fairly minor, gameplaywise she's always been the least useful character in both games. garrus and kaidan are better for all your tech related needs and also pack a decent punch that tali doesnt. ME2 she's well useless. has the horrible heavy pistol / shotgun combo and doesnt have any particularly useful skills.
honestly i'd have to say tali is the most overrated mass effect character.
People died in her missions because they don't follow orders. Yeah she's not the most useful character in combat but that's not why she's here, I like her personnality even though I almost never used her during combat.
#135
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:52
#136
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:55
Anyway, why I like Tali:
1. She's smart. Really smart. With machines. A girl that can find her way around an engine is a win in my book.
2. She's cute. Yep. Dem hips, dat hand-fidget, etc. Shush.
3. She's a sympathetic character. As if being quarian wasn't enough, she's got all the daddy issues on top of that, plus the Haestrom/Freedom's Progress shenanigans... Girl deserves a hug.
4. She's a lot tougher than she looks.
5. She really cares about the people she works with and feels responsible for their well-being.
Reasons I dislike Tali:
1. Sucks up all my medigel in combat.
2. Too much of a damsel in distress at times.
3. Blah blah blah homeworld blah blah geth blah blah seriously that was 300 years ago get over it.
#137
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:56
Tali is not a shy person either, at least I haven't noticed her having problems with interacting other people of any species. Also, I don't get it why people insist she is a whiner? Every single companion has something to complain about, and by the same scale, a massive whiner.
#138
Posté 24 avril 2011 - 11:58
Clonedzero wrote...
really i kinda feel like she got less mature in ME2. like she regressed as a character instead of progressed.MajorStranger wrote...
It's her development that I like.
She was a young confused little girl who don't know much of the universe in ME, then when you meet her in ME2 she's a grown woman who earn the respect of her people and became a leader.
That's why she's my favorite character along with Garrus, She's my girl and he's my Bro.
she's a horrible leader getting everyone killed in both instances of her leadership in ME2; in all her audio logs she's crying that she wished shepard was there. she's overly sensitive and awkward. far more so than in ME1.
she went from the nerdy alien chick to the nerdy needy incompitent cute alien chick.
also even though its fairly minor, gameplaywise she's always been the least useful character in both games. garrus and kaidan are better for all your tech related needs and also pack a decent punch that tali doesnt. ME2 she's well useless. has the horrible heavy pistol / shotgun combo and doesnt have any particularly useful skills.
honestly i'd have to say tali is the most overrated mass effect character.
Welp time for the nerd glasses to come on.
First of all Tali's leadership, while not perfect, is not given a proper shake in the game. While her inability to control her squad on freedom's progress was bad, Tali is not military. Finding veetor was not a military operation. Plus Tali was asking her squad to trust a cerberus squad, which while shep was not cerberus (at last to Tali) the squad just couldn't handle working with cerberus. I don't see that as a fault with Tali, at least not directly.
Secondly, Tali was NOT the leader on Maestrom. She was the Science lead. (there were two teams remember? Scince and secrurity) Tali did not directly lead anyone, at least not in combat. Her job was to find out why the sun was going out of whack. It works like this, Tali and science team tell Kal that they need to go to the observitory. Kal comes up with HOW they will get passed the geth to get there. Also, how is it Tali, or kal's fault that a few GETH PLATOONS fell on their heads?
You also straight up lie by saying Tali was crying in all her logs. She mentions missing shep ONCE, and the other time she mentions shep, she is using his idea to solve a problem. She never whined. If you consider that whining, the whole damn team in ME2 is one big emo fest.
I will concede that Tali is less useful in ME2 due to her lack of a defence buster, however saying she was useless in ME1 is just silly. Hand her a shotgun, and she will destroy all while repairing the Mako, hacking locks, and causing chaos. The only reason Kaiden is better is due to the class imbalance at the time. (Still somewhat imbalanced in 2)
Modifié par Nashiktal, 25 avril 2011 - 12:01 .
#139
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 12:00
Yep, and Tali led THAT side of the team.Nashiktal wrote...
Clonedzero wrote...
really i kinda feel like she got less mature in ME2. like she regressed as a character instead of progressed.MajorStranger wrote...
It's her development that I like.
She was a young confused little girl who don't know much of the universe in ME, then when you meet her in ME2 she's a grown woman who earn the respect of her people and became a leader.
That's why she's my favorite character along with Garrus, She's my girl and he's my Bro.
she's a horrible leader getting everyone killed in both instances of her leadership in ME2; in all her audio logs she's crying that she wished shepard was there. she's overly sensitive and awkward. far more so than in ME1.
she went from the nerdy alien chick to the nerdy needy incompitent cute alien chick.
also even though its fairly minor, gameplaywise she's always been the least useful character in both games. garrus and kaidan are better for all your tech related needs and also pack a decent punch that tali doesnt. ME2 she's well useless. has the horrible heavy pistol / shotgun combo and doesnt have any particularly useful skills.
honestly i'd have to say tali is the most overrated mass effect character.
Welp time for the nerd glasses to come on.
First of all Tali's leadership, while not perfect, is not given a proper shake in the game. While her inability to control her squad on freedom's progress was bad, Tali is not military. Finding veetor was not a military operation. Plus Tali was asking her squad to trust a cerberus squad, which while shep was not cerberus (at last to Tali) the squad just couldn't handle working with cerberus. I don't see that as a fault with Tali, at least not directly.
Secondly, Tali was NOT the leader on Maestrom. She was the Science lead. (there were two teams remember? Scince and secrurity) Tali did not directly lead anyone, at least not in combat. Her job was to find out why the sun was going out of whack. It works like this, Tali and science team tell Kal that they need to go to the observitory. Kal comes up with HOW they will get there. Also, how is it Tali, or kal's fault that a GETH PLATOON fell on their heads?
You also straight up lie by saying Tali was crying in all her logs. She mentions missing shep ONCE, and the other time she mentions shep, she is using his idea to solve a problem. She never whined. If you consider that whining, the whole damn team in ME2 is one big emo fest.
I will concede that Tali is less useful in ME2 due to her lack of a defence buster, however saying she was useless in ME1 is just silly. Hand her a shotgun, and she will destroy all while repairing the Mako, hacking locks, and causing chaos. The only reason Kaiden is better is due to the class imbalance at the time. (Still somewhat imbalanced in 2)
#140
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 12:02
bloody wrists whilst they cries.....>_>Nashiktal wrote...
She never whined. If you consider that whining, the whole damn team in ME2 is one big emo fest.
#141
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 12:03
Seroxi wrote...
I find it absolutely hilarious when people start preaching how Tali is such an easy woman(24 years old and a virgin) spreading her legs for Shepard when the "independent and mature" women such as Miranda and Jack have probably been ravaged by half of the men in the known galaxy. Liara tries to jump in your pants after first serious discussion in ME1 and I don't see people crying here how shallow she is :/
Tali is not a shy person either, at least I haven't noticed her having problems with interacting other people of any species. Also, I don't get it why people insist she is a whiner? Every single companion has something to complain about, and by the same scale, a massive whiner.
Liara in ME1 was a very disturbing romance. She comes across as some weird celebrity stalker type that seems more interested in dissecting Shepard in a lab than being his/her friend or lover.
#142
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 12:05
higherice wrote...
Yep, and Tali led THAT side of the team.Nashiktal wrote...
Clonedzero wrote...
really i kinda feel like she got less mature in ME2. like she regressed as a character instead of progressed.MajorStranger wrote...
It's her development that I like.
She was a young confused little girl who don't know much of the universe in ME, then when you meet her in ME2 she's a grown woman who earn the respect of her people and became a leader.
That's why she's my favorite character along with Garrus, She's my girl and he's my Bro.
she's a horrible leader getting everyone killed in both instances of her leadership in ME2; in all her audio logs she's crying that she wished shepard was there. she's overly sensitive and awkward. far more so than in ME1.
she went from the nerdy alien chick to the nerdy needy incompitent cute alien chick.
also even though its fairly minor, gameplaywise she's always been the least useful character in both games. garrus and kaidan are better for all your tech related needs and also pack a decent punch that tali doesnt. ME2 she's well useless. has the horrible heavy pistol / shotgun combo and doesnt have any particularly useful skills.
honestly i'd have to say tali is the most overrated mass effect character.
Welp time for the nerd glasses to come on.
First of all Tali's leadership, while not perfect, is not given a proper shake in the game. While her inability to control her squad on freedom's progress was bad, Tali is not military. Finding veetor was not a military operation. Plus Tali was asking her squad to trust a cerberus squad, which while shep was not cerberus (at last to Tali) the squad just couldn't handle working with cerberus. I don't see that as a fault with Tali, at least not directly.
Secondly, Tali was NOT the leader on Maestrom. She was the Science lead. (there were two teams remember? Scince and secrurity) Tali did not directly lead anyone, at least not in combat. Her job was to find out why the sun was going out of whack. It works like this, Tali and science team tell Kal that they need to go to the observitory. Kal comes up with HOW they will get there. Also, how is it Tali, or kal's fault that a GETH PLATOON fell on their heads?
You also straight up lie by saying Tali was crying in all her logs. She mentions missing shep ONCE, and the other time she mentions shep, she is using his idea to solve a problem. She never whined. If you consider that whining, the whole damn team in ME2 is one big emo fest.
I will concede that Tali is less useful in ME2 due to her lack of a defence buster, however saying she was useless in ME1 is just silly. Hand her a shotgun, and she will destroy all while repairing the Mako, hacking locks, and causing chaos. The only reason Kaiden is better is due to the class imbalance at the time. (Still somewhat imbalanced in 2)
I was talking about Sheps team. How is Tali leading sheps team?
Also the science team is NOT a combat team.
Besides when you say Tali is a bad leader because her team didn't follow orders... Have you ever considered that Prazza was an idiot who didn't follow orders? Must I state again that it wasn't a military operation? For all we know it was a posse rounded up to find veetor.
#143
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 12:06
The highlight of your post. I Lol'd forreal.AdmiralCheez wrote...
For f*ck's sake, if I see that costumed Dachshund again, I will kill a litter of kittens with my bare hands.
Anyway, why I like Tali:
1. She's smart. Really smart. With machines. A girl that can find her way around an engine is a win in my book.
2. She's cute. Yep. Dem hips, dat hand-fidget, etc. Shush.
3. She's a sympathetic character. As if being quarian wasn't enough, she's got all the daddy issues on top of that, plus the Haestrom/Freedom's Progress shenanigans... Girl deserves a hug.
4. She's a lot tougher than she looks.
5. She really cares about the people she works with and feels responsible for their well-being.
Reasons I dislike Tali:
1. Sucks up all my medigel in combat.
2. Too much of a damsel in distress at times.
3. Blah blah blah homeworld blah blah geth blah blah seriously that was 300 years ago get over it.
#144
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 12:11
I meant she led the team in their emoness. Doesn't matter if it was a military operation, Tali was leading that team and they ignored what she said and disobeyed her. not the mark of a good leader.Nashiktal wrote...
higherice wrote...
Yep, and Tali led THAT side of the team.Nashiktal wrote...
Clonedzero wrote...
really i kinda feel like she got less mature in ME2. like she regressed as a character instead of progressed.MajorStranger wrote...
It's her development that I like.
She was a young confused little girl who don't know much of the universe in ME, then when you meet her in ME2 she's a grown woman who earn the respect of her people and became a leader.
That's why she's my favorite character along with Garrus, She's my girl and he's my Bro.
she's a horrible leader getting everyone killed in both instances of her leadership in ME2; in all her audio logs she's crying that she wished shepard was there. she's overly sensitive and awkward. far more so than in ME1.
she went from the nerdy alien chick to the nerdy needy incompitent cute alien chick.
also even though its fairly minor, gameplaywise she's always been the least useful character in both games. garrus and kaidan are better for all your tech related needs and also pack a decent punch that tali doesnt. ME2 she's well useless. has the horrible heavy pistol / shotgun combo and doesnt have any particularly useful skills.
honestly i'd have to say tali is the most overrated mass effect character.
Welp time for the nerd glasses to come on.
First of all Tali's leadership, while not perfect, is not given a proper shake in the game. While her inability to control her squad on freedom's progress was bad, Tali is not military. Finding veetor was not a military operation. Plus Tali was asking her squad to trust a cerberus squad, which while shep was not cerberus (at last to Tali) the squad just couldn't handle working with cerberus. I don't see that as a fault with Tali, at least not directly.
Secondly, Tali was NOT the leader on Maestrom. She was the Science lead. (there were two teams remember? Scince and secrurity) Tali did not directly lead anyone, at least not in combat. Her job was to find out why the sun was going out of whack. It works like this, Tali and science team tell Kal that they need to go to the observitory. Kal comes up with HOW they will get there. Also, how is it Tali, or kal's fault that a GETH PLATOON fell on their heads?
You also straight up lie by saying Tali was crying in all her logs. She mentions missing shep ONCE, and the other time she mentions shep, she is using his idea to solve a problem. She never whined. If you consider that whining, the whole damn team in ME2 is one big emo fest.
I will concede that Tali is less useful in ME2 due to her lack of a defence buster, however saying she was useless in ME1 is just silly. Hand her a shotgun, and she will destroy all while repairing the Mako, hacking locks, and causing chaos. The only reason Kaiden is better is due to the class imbalance at the time. (Still somewhat imbalanced in 2)
I was talking about Sheps team. How is Tali leading sheps team?
Also the science team is NOT a combat team.
Besides when you say Tali is a bad leader because her team didn't follow orders... Have you ever considered that Prazza was an idiot who didn't follow orders? Must I state again that it wasn't a military operation? For all we know it was a posse rounded up to find veetor.
#145
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 12:18
her being given operational control of the squad during freedoms progress makes absolutely no sense. like you said she's not military. she has absolutely no buisness being inc ombat that includes as a squadmate. she has no training, no experience and not even a moment of cutscene badassery to give her combat skills any credability (not to mention she's arguably the worst gameplaywise in the entire series) the reason shepard recruited her at all still baffles me.Nashiktal wrote...
Clonedzero wrote...
really i kinda feel like she got less mature in ME2. like she regressed as a character instead of progressed.MajorStranger wrote...
It's her development that I like.
She was a young confused little girl who don't know much of the universe in ME, then when you meet her in ME2 she's a grown woman who earn the respect of her people and became a leader.
That's why she's my favorite character along with Garrus, She's my girl and he's my Bro.
she's a horrible leader getting everyone killed in both instances of her leadership in ME2; in all her audio logs she's crying that she wished shepard was there. she's overly sensitive and awkward. far more so than in ME1.
she went from the nerdy alien chick to the nerdy needy incompitent cute alien chick.
also even though its fairly minor, gameplaywise she's always been the least useful character in both games. garrus and kaidan are better for all your tech related needs and also pack a decent punch that tali doesnt. ME2 she's well useless. has the horrible heavy pistol / shotgun combo and doesnt have any particularly useful skills.
honestly i'd have to say tali is the most overrated mass effect character.
Welp time for the nerd glasses to come on.
First of all Tali's leadership, while not perfect, is not given a proper shake in the game. While her inability to control her squad on freedom's progress was bad, Tali is not military. Finding veetor was not a military operation. Plus Tali was asking her squad to trust a cerberus squad, which while shep was not cerberus (at last to Tali) the squad just couldn't handle working with cerberus. I don't see that as a fault with Tali, at least not directly.
Secondly, Tali was NOT the leader on Maestrom. She was the Science lead. (there were two teams remember? Scince and secrurity) Tali did not directly lead anyone, at least not in combat. Her job was to find out why the sun was going out of whack. It works like this, Tali and science team tell Kal that they need to go to the observitory. Kal comes up with HOW they will get passed the geth to get there. Also, how is it Tali, or kal's fault that a few GETH PLATOONS fell on their heads?
You also straight up lie by saying Tali was crying in all her logs. She mentions missing shep ONCE, and the other time she mentions shep, she is using his idea to solve a problem. She never whined. If you consider that whining, the whole damn team in ME2 is one big emo fest.
I will concede that Tali is less useful in ME2 due to her lack of a defence buster, however saying she was useless in ME1 is just silly. Hand her a shotgun, and she will destroy all while repairing the Mako, hacking locks, and causing chaos. The only reason Kaiden is better is due to the class imbalance at the time. (Still somewhat imbalanced in 2)
and again, she completely regressed personality wise in ME2, she acts YOUNGER and more immature in ME2 than in ME1.
she's like the opposite of liara, liara feels like she grew up alot from ME1 to ME2, while tali feels like she got younger and more imature. its really off putting when she starts acting like a 12 year old girl.
#146
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 12:19
*prepares for Talimancer backlash*
Overall, my guess is that the most popular npc is Garrus, with the most popular romance amongst casual players being miranda.
Modifié par ME_Fan, 25 avril 2011 - 12:22 .
#147
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 12:25
Clonedzero wrote...
her being given operational control of the squad during freedoms progress makes absolutely no sense. like you said she's not military. she has absolutely no buisness being inc ombat that includes as a squadmate. she has no training, no experience and not even a moment of cutscene badassery to give her combat skills any credability (not to mention she's arguably the worst gameplaywise in the entire series) the reason shepard recruited her at all still baffles me.Nashiktal wrote...
Clonedzero wrote...
really i kinda feel like she got less mature in ME2. like she regressed as a character instead of progressed.MajorStranger wrote...
It's her development that I like.
She was a young confused little girl who don't know much of the universe in ME, then when you meet her in ME2 she's a grown woman who earn the respect of her people and became a leader.
That's why she's my favorite character along with Garrus, She's my girl and he's my Bro.
she's a horrible leader getting everyone killed in both instances of her leadership in ME2; in all her audio logs she's crying that she wished shepard was there. she's overly sensitive and awkward. far more so than in ME1.
she went from the nerdy alien chick to the nerdy needy incompitent cute alien chick.
also even though its fairly minor, gameplaywise she's always been the least useful character in both games. garrus and kaidan are better for all your tech related needs and also pack a decent punch that tali doesnt. ME2 she's well useless. has the horrible heavy pistol / shotgun combo and doesnt have any particularly useful skills.
honestly i'd have to say tali is the most overrated mass effect character.
Welp time for the nerd glasses to come on.
First of all Tali's leadership, while not perfect, is not given a proper shake in the game. While her inability to control her squad on freedom's progress was bad, Tali is not military. Finding veetor was not a military operation. Plus Tali was asking her squad to trust a cerberus squad, which while shep was not cerberus (at last to Tali) the squad just couldn't handle working with cerberus. I don't see that as a fault with Tali, at least not directly.
Secondly, Tali was NOT the leader on Maestrom. She was the Science lead. (there were two teams remember? Scince and secrurity) Tali did not directly lead anyone, at least not in combat. Her job was to find out why the sun was going out of whack. It works like this, Tali and science team tell Kal that they need to go to the observitory. Kal comes up with HOW they will get passed the geth to get there. Also, how is it Tali, or kal's fault that a few GETH PLATOONS fell on their heads?
You also straight up lie by saying Tali was crying in all her logs. She mentions missing shep ONCE, and the other time she mentions shep, she is using his idea to solve a problem. She never whined. If you consider that whining, the whole damn team in ME2 is one big emo fest.
I will concede that Tali is less useful in ME2 due to her lack of a defence buster, however saying she was useless in ME1 is just silly. Hand her a shotgun, and she will destroy all while repairing the Mako, hacking locks, and causing chaos. The only reason Kaiden is better is due to the class imbalance at the time. (Still somewhat imbalanced in 2)
and again, she completely regressed personality wise in ME2, she acts YOUNGER and more immature in ME2 than in ME1.
she's like the opposite of liara, liara feels like she grew up alot from ME1 to ME2, while tali feels like she got younger and more imature. its really off putting when she starts acting like a 12 year old girl.
I can agree with you there, I have no idea why she was the leader. She's a specialist, one of the best damn quarian machinists there is, but not a great leader. I think the only reason she lead at all was because it wasn't a military operation. That and Prazza was an idiot, maybe it was her or Prazza? That'd make more sense.
#148
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 12:31
Heh if it didn't stop Legion from being a good character I don't see why it should stop others.higherice wrote...
I totally agree, I just can't bond with someone who doesn't have facial features.
#149
Posté 25 avril 2011 - 12:35




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