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[White_Buffalo94]

I hope to see Sten in future games. Meaning the Sten we all know and love from Origins I wonder if they will upgrade him with horns

[Jedi Master of Orion]

i wouldn't mind a Sten appearance of some sort. But I really wouldn't want to see him as Arishok, mostly because I killed him in two thirds of my DOA playthrough ,and secondly do Qunari rally not have ranks between "Sergent" and "Commander-in-Chief of all Qunari"? I would have imagined that The Arishok already had a successor picked out. His task in recovering the Tome of Koslun must have left he leaving behind responsibilities back i Par Vollen.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 25 avril 2011 - 02:50 .

[Ulicus]

So is there only one of each "Ari"? I figured that there were three "top jobs"... but not that there was only one of each job.

Modifié par Ulicus, 25 avril 2011 - 05:52 .

[The Angry One]

Ulicus wrote...

So is there only one of each "Ari"? I figured that there were three "top jobs"... but not that there was only one of each job.

All I've read suggests there's only one.
Which means that, yes, the supreme military commander of the Qunari sat on his ass for 4 years in Kirkwall complaining about the smell.

I can only imagine Sten spending that time waiting outside the Arishok's office to deliver his report, cursing under his breath and lamenting that the supply of cookies he brought from Ferelden was exhausted long ago.
Poor Sten.

[Mr.House]

The Angry One wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

So is there only one of each "Ari"? I figured that there were three "top jobs"... but not that there was only one of each job.

All I've read suggests there's only one.
Which means that, yes, the supreme military commander of the Qunari sat on his ass for 4 years in Kirkwall complaining about the smell.

I can only imagine Sten spending that time waiting outside the Arishok's office to deliver his report, cursing under his breath and lamenting that the supply of cookies he brought from Ferelden was exhausted long ago.
Poor Sten.

LMAO=]

[TobiTobsen]

The Angry One wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

So is there only one of each "Ari"? I figured that there were three "top jobs"... but not that there was only one of each job.

All I've read suggests there's only one.
Which means that, yes, the supreme military commander of the Qunari sat on his ass for 4 years in Kirkwall complaining about the smell.

I can only imagine Sten spending that time waiting outside the Arishok's office to deliver his report, cursing under his breath and lamenting that the supply of cookies he brought from Ferelden was exhausted long ago.
Poor Sten.

Maybe he gets promoted just because he was nearest to the office. The first Sten they could find

[Ulicus]

TobiTobsen wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

So is there only one of each "Ari"? I figured that there were three "top jobs"... but not that there was only one of each job.

All I've read suggests there's only one.
Which means that, yes, the supreme military commander of the Qunari sat on his ass for 4 years in Kirkwall complaining about the smell.

I can only imagine Sten spending that time waiting outside the Arishok's office to deliver his report, cursing under his breath and lamenting that the supply of cookies he brought from Ferelden was exhausted long ago.
Poor Sten.

Maybe he gets promoted just because he was nearest to the office. The first Sten they could find

So... it's like lawn bowls? But... with people?

[TobiTobsen]

Ulicus wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

So is there only one of each "Ari"? I figured that there were three "top jobs"... but not that there was only one of each job.

All I've read suggests there's only one.
Which means that, yes, the supreme military commander of the Qunari sat on his ass for 4 years in Kirkwall complaining about the smell.

I can only imagine Sten spending that time waiting outside the Arishok's office to deliver his report, cursing under his breath and lamenting that the supply of cookies he brought from Ferelden was exhausted long ago.
Poor Sten.

Maybe he gets promoted just because he was nearest to the office. The first Sten they could find

So... it's like lawn bowls? But... with people?

Yes.

"Hey. You! Sten! You're already waiting here for four years. Since you're already familiar with this office YOU'RE the Arishok now! Just keep sitting in this room, but on the other side of the table."

[TEWR]

LOL This thread.

[nightscrawl]

ACdeadpool731 wrote...

... which makes me think maybe there are more than just the one Arishok, maybe there's a Triumvirate at each of their capital's. After all they do have two, so why can't their be more than one, it must be a hard day's work for the Arishok to command all the armies of the qun.

I was thinking that Arishok (the 1/3 branch of the triumverate) and the title Arishok weren't necessarily the same.

We have many Generals/Admirals in our armed forces, but each branch has a Chief in the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines Corps), headed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Similarly, when Japan was run by the Shogunate, there was THE Shogun, as well as several Shoguns who ran provinces and such. Shogun in Japanese means "general." The head Shogun can be considered the Generalissimo Shogun (to mix cultural terms), as Japan was a military dictatorship at that time.

That's not to say that our Arishok in DA2 isn't the leader of all of the Qunari military, but I would have thought there might have been a more "severe" response after killing their head guy.

Let's say our DA2 Arishok was the Chief of the Navy (shipwrecked and all that) and he somehow was killed. Initially, his Second-in-command would take over as Acting Chief of the Navy (or there would be a special appointment by the President) and eventually the President would appoint a new one (pending Senate approval). In the meantime, you still have the normal structure of rank to rely on, it's not like order would dissolve totally. I find it hard to believe the Qunari don't have rules for everything. What kind of boy scouts would they be if they weren't prepared?

[Maladismal]

nightscrawl wrote...

ACdeadpool731 wrote...

... which makes me think maybe there are more than just the one Arishok, maybe there's a Triumvirate at each of their capital's. After all they do have two, so why can't their be more than one, it must be a hard day's work for the Arishok to command all the armies of the qun.

I was thinking that Arishok (the 1/3 branch of the triumverate) and the title Arishok weren't necessarily the same.

We have many Generals/Admirals in our armed forces, but each branch has a Chief in the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines Corps), headed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Similarly, when Japan was run by the Shogunate, there was THE Shogun, as well as several Shoguns who ran provinces and such. Shogun in Japanese means "general." The head Shogun can be considered the Generalissimo Shogun (to mix cultural terms), as Japan was a military dictatorship at that time.

That's not to say that our Arishok in DA2 isn't the leader of all of the Qunari military, but I would have thought there might have been a more "severe" response after killing their head guy.

Let's say our DA2 Arishok was the Chief of the Navy (shipwrecked and all that) and he somehow was killed. Initially, his Second-in-command would take over as Acting Chief of the Navy (or there would be a special appointment by the President) and eventually the President would appoint a new one (pending Senate approval). In the meantime, you still have the normal structure of rank to rely on, it's not like order would dissolve totally. I find it hard to believe the Qunari don't have rules for everything. What kind of boy scouts would they be if they weren't prepared?

There is only 1 Arishock at any given time.

Barring another dose of retcon, this is fact.

[Ulicus]

Is there an actual source that says that, anywhere? Or is it just something people have inferred?

[TEWR]

better bump this since the Qunari are a hot topic among the threads.

@Ulicus, it's because the Arishok commands all of the military. And Sten said "the Arishok", not "an Arishok".

[Harid]

I have trouble believing that the Qunari would be stupid enough not only to send the Arishok on the mission that caused him to be lost, but barring that, sent no one to find him and possibly bring him back.

I mean, the dude was gone for like 4+ years. I don't think there is an organized military force on earth that would do something so stupid.

[TEWR]

It would've brought shame to the Arishok if it was known that his duty, retrieving the Tome of Koslun, wasn't completed. He tells you this.

[Harid]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

It would've brought shame to the Arishok if it was known that his duty, retrieving the Tome of Koslun, wasn't completed. He tells you this.

My point is why he was sent to retrieve it in the first place.

To put it in perspective, there were no generals involved on the ground with Seal Team 6 (on the actual mission), for instance.  You don't send generals on retrieval missions.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Harid wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

It would've brought shame to the Arishok if it was known that his duty, retrieving the Tome of Koslun, wasn't completed. He tells you this.

My point is why he was sent to retrieve it in the first place.

To put it in perspective, there were no generals involved on the ground with Seal Team 6 (on the actual mission), for instance.  You don't send generals on retrieval missions.

that would depend on the nature pof the retrieval. This one in particular was suppsoed to be a purely diplomatic one, in which case you can send high ranking officials to retrive. Combine this with the honor code of the Qunari, and the Arishok found him honorbound to return with the Tome.

[lobi]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I have a question: How are the members of the Triumvirate selected?

Here's what we know about them:

Arigena: One of the Triumvirate, the three pillars/leaders of the Qunari people, leader of the craftsmen.
Arishok: One of the Triumvirate, the three pillars/leaders of the Qunari people, leader of the army.
Ariqun: One of the Triumvirate, the three pillars/leaders of the Qunari people, leader of the priests.

We also know what a Sten is:

Sten: an infantry platoon commander

Should one of the Triumvirate die (like with the Arishok), how is a new one selected? Do the Tamassrans evaluate people from the military and pick the best one suited for the task of Arishok? Is the Arishok just a Sten with more duties and responsibilities?

Basically, in the absence of a leader, do promotions occur from the given fields?

Rock, Paper, Scissors.
You are welcome.

[TEWR]

lobi, that actually explains a lot.