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[Big I]

Viyu wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Who said that dwarven gestation is 9 months? If I had to guess, it's quite a bit shorter than that given the DN/DC Origin stories.

I'm trying to think how long it took for Bhelen's son to be born? Not long IIRC.

A male dwarf noble can sleep with a noble hunter in the origin...only to find that she's had his son by the time he returns to Orzammar, even if Orzammar is the first place you vist.

So, Warden Birthday->Aeducan Thaig->Orzammar Prison->Finding Duncan->Ostagar->Lothering->Orzammar is long enough for a dwarven baby to come to term.

[Woodstock-TC]

Vilegrim wrote...

Considering Oghren's six
month miracle baby, it just seems like another timeline error. I suppose
we should simply concede that "a wizard did it."

LOL. Can't babies technically be born 3 months premature though?

=>do we know how long dwarfs need for their babies ?

Modifié par Woodstock-TC, 26 avril 2011 - 01:20 .

[Fast Jimmy]

[quote]Ulicus wrote...

[quote]Fast Jimmy wrote...

In Thedas, there are 24 month years. They don't use a 12 month calendar like we do.


BAM! I just made up a way for this to totally make sense. And I didn't even break a sweat.[/quote]
I'd be all for it if not for the codex entry saying otherwise.

And, damn, Loghain's generation would be oooooold.
[/quote

Curses!

And yeah... people in Thedas would have to age remarkably well!

Well... people aside from Flemeth. She does age well from DAO to DA2.]

[LobselVith8]

Woodstock-TC wrote...

Vilegrim wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Considering Oghren's six  month miracle baby, it just seems like another timeline error. I suppose we should simply concede that "a wizard did it."

LOL. Can't babies technically be born 3 months premature though?

=>do we know how long dwarfs need for their babies ?

Wynne said it's been "almost a year" since he left the Circle Tower when she speaks to the Magi Warden after "A Broken Circle," so it's difficult to say when the Dwarven Noble's son was born.

[Myusha]

Oghren could've have fun behind your back during Origins. Would seem like him too. *whistle*

[Ooga600]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Considering the Warden meets Anders in Amaranthine roughly six months after the Blight ended and Hawke meets Anders a year after the destruction of Lothering, there's more than one issue with the timeline in this game.

There's no way Hawke was anywhere near beginning his first year in Kirkwall when Lothering was destroyed. Unless they DID fly a dragon there.

[TEWR]

So if you complete "Best Served Cold" before "Finding Nathaniel"...
Your sibling was plucked right from the Deep Roads and danger, into the hands of plotting Mages and Templars, and then thrust back into the Deep Roads at the right oppurtunity.

I think you're confusing when YOU complete the quest with when HAWKE completes the quest.

For Hawke, the events that transpire in Act 3 take an unknown amount of time. Not just a few hours like it does for you.

Also, did you consider that maybe (s)he was kidnapped before Nathaniel and company ventured into the Deep Roads? Because again, Hawke completing these quests take an unknown amount of time. So, you rescue your sibling, he/she meets up with Nathaniel, they go into the Deep Roads, and they get royally ****ed.

[In Exile]

LobselVith8 wrote...
If it took six months to get to Gwaren, how did the Warden kill Flemeth if she was escorting Hawke to Gwaren at the same time?

She doesn't, I think. Doesn't Varric say just that?

[TEWR]

Varric says Flemeth didn't take them to Kirkwall in her dragon form. Flemeth said she'd guide them safely to Gwaren.

[Snowship]

so you've got the trip via boat from Gwaren, ~1 week wating for Uncle then 1yr servitude until you start looking for work... That's before you meet up with Varrik, so what's the time difference from leaving servitude and enquiring intp the deep roads expedition? (keep in mind Avaline, did she serve serviture too? Cause if so then she'd have needed time to join the Guards)

[TEWR]

Snowship wrote...

so you've got the trip via boat from Gwaren, ~1 week wating for Uncle then 1yr servitude until you start looking for work... That's before you meet up with Varrik, so what's the time difference from leaving servitude and enquiring intp the deep roads expedition? (keep in mind Avaline, did she serve serviture too? Cause if so then she'd have needed time to join the Guards)

actually they only waited 3 days for Gamlen.

And this is why I hate trying to figure out the timeline. I really wish the developers would tell us the official timeline

[Viyu]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Snowship wrote...

so you've got the trip via boat from Gwaren, ~1 week wating for Uncle then 1yr servitude until you start looking for work... That's before you meet up with Varrik, so what's the time difference from leaving servitude and enquiring intp the deep roads expedition? (keep in mind Avaline, did she serve serviture too? Cause if so then she'd have needed time to join the Guards)

actually they only waited 3 days for Gamlen.

And this is why I hate trying to figure out the timeline. I really wish the developers would tell us the official timeline

Seconded.  But even if they did, I'd probably have qualms with the level of inconsistency, judging by how inconsistent things are looking with Justice and Anders leaving the Wardens and the deep roads expedition. I think the ONLY way they can get out of it was to write Varric off to create fabrications to the story he told.

Modifié par Viyu, 26 avril 2011 - 04:00 .

[TEWR]

Viyu wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Snowship wrote...

so you've got the trip via boat from Gwaren, ~1 week wating for Uncle then 1yr servitude until you start looking for work... That's before you meet up with Varrik, so what's the time difference from leaving servitude and enquiring intp the deep roads expedition? (keep in mind Avaline, did she serve serviture too? Cause if so then she'd have needed time to join the Guards)

actually they only waited 3 days for Gamlen.

And this is why I hate trying to figure out the timeline. I really wish the developers would tell us the official timeline

Seconded.  But even if they did, I'd probably have qualms with the level of inconsistency, judging by how inconsistent things are looking with Justice and Anders leaving the Wardens and the deep roads expedition. I think the ONLY way they can get out of it was to write Varric off to create fabrications to the story he told.

The best way I figure the timeline is something like this:

• 2 months into the Warden's adventure - Fall of Ostagar and Destruction of Lothering
• 6-8 more months pass, where the Warden now has all of his allies and is about to call the Landsmeet. Meanwhile, Hawke travels to Gwaren in those 6-8 months alongside Flemeth, whom afterwards awaits the Warden. Hawke takes a ship bound for Kirkwall, which I'd wager takes 1 week to 2 weeks. Add into that an additional 3 days waiting for Gamlen. His year of servitude then begins.
• 2 months - Landsmeet concludes and between travel to Denerim and Redcliffe, the Archdemon is slain.
• Awakening then starts after maybe 2 weeks pass from the Archdemon's death.
• All of Awakening takes place over a course of maybe 6 months at most.
• Anders stays for two more months, but leaves for Kirkwall soon after (Amaranthine is closer to Gwaren than Lothering is). At this point, Hawke still has a few months of servitude left.
• After Hawke's year ends, he now tries to prepare for the Deep Roads. I'd wager that takes place over the course of a month or two, having to do odd jobs from here and there (not counting the 2 weeks spent in the Deep Roads)
• GoA takes place maybe between 1 month - 3 months after Anders leaves
• I doubt Witch Hunt takes place two and a half years after the Archdemon's death though. Where it falls I don't know

[Viyu]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Viyu wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Snowship wrote...

so you've got the trip via boat from Gwaren, ~1 week wating for Uncle then 1yr servitude until you start looking for work... That's before you meet up with Varrik, so what's the time difference from leaving servitude and enquiring intp the deep roads expedition? (keep in mind Avaline, did she serve serviture too? Cause if so then she'd have needed time to join the Guards)

actually they only waited 3 days for Gamlen.

And this is why I hate trying to figure out the timeline. I really wish the developers would tell us the official timeline

Seconded.  But even if they did, I'd probably have qualms with the level of inconsistency, judging by how inconsistent things are looking with Justice and Anders leaving the Wardens and the deep roads expedition. I think the ONLY way they can get out of it was to write Varric off to create fabrications to the story he told.

The best way I figure the timeline is something like this:

• 2 months into the Warden's adventure - Fall of Ostagar and Destruction of Lothering
• 6-8 more months pass, where the Warden now has all of his allies and is about to call the Landsmeet. Meanwhile, Hawke travels to Gwaren in those 6-8 months alongside Flemeth, whom afterwards awaits the Warden. Hawke takes a ship bound for Kirkwall, which I'd wager takes 1 week to 2 weeks. Add into that an additional 3 days waiting for Gamlen. His year of servitude then begins.
• 2 months - Landsmeet concludes and between travel to Denerim and Redcliffe, the Archdemon is slain.
• Awakening then starts after maybe 2 weeks pass from the Archdemon's death.
• All of Awakening takes place over a course of maybe 6 months at most.
• Anders stays for two more months, but leaves for Kirkwall soon after (Amaranthine is closer to Gwaren than Lothering is). At this point, Hawke still has a few months of servitude left.
• After Hawke's year ends, he now tries to prepare for the Deep Roads. I'd wager that takes place over the course of a month or two, having to do odd jobs from here and there (not counting the 2 weeks spent in the Deep Roads)
• GoA takes place maybe between 1 month - 3 months after Anders leaves
• I doubt Witch Hunt takes place two and a half years after the Archdemon's death though. Where it falls I don't know

Didn't another forumer mention how Wynne states that it's been over a year since the Warden left the Circle?

[TEWR]

where's this mentioned in the game? I don't remember ever hearing that.

[Avissel]

She mentions it in one of her party dialogues, I got that one too. I cant remember why it was brought up but if you were mage she could make a comment about how "It's been almost a year since you left."

[TEWR]

is there a youtube video for Wynne banters?

[Viyu]

lol, oh good lord, out of the heat and into the frying pan. The plot thickens

[TEWR]

I just looked over the DA wiki, and they have a comprehensive list of all Wynne dialogue given in the game, and it's not there. I don't think she mentions it. I've never had it happen, and I switch out my party all the time to hear all banter. I even did this on my mage playthrough and she never said it.

[Viyu]

It is an interesting question. I'll look into that if I can.

[Nepenthe87]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Viyu wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Snowship wrote...

so you've got the trip via boat from Gwaren, ~1 week wating for Uncle then 1yr servitude until you start looking for work... That's before you meet up with Varrik, so what's the time difference from leaving servitude and enquiring intp the deep roads expedition? (keep in mind Avaline, did she serve serviture too? Cause if so then she'd have needed time to join the Guards)

actually they only waited 3 days for Gamlen.

And this is why I hate trying to figure out the timeline. I really wish the developers would tell us the official timeline

Seconded.  But even if they did, I'd probably have qualms with the level of inconsistency, judging by how inconsistent things are looking with Justice and Anders leaving the Wardens and the deep roads expedition. I think the ONLY way they can get out of it was to write Varric off to create fabrications to the story he told.

The best way I figure the timeline is something like this:

• 2 months into the Warden's adventure - Fall of Ostagar and Destruction of Lothering
• 6-8 more months pass, where the Warden now has all of his allies and is about to call the Landsmeet. Meanwhile, Hawke travels to Gwaren in those 6-8 months alongside Flemeth, whom afterwards awaits the Warden. Hawke takes a ship bound for Kirkwall, which I'd wager takes 1 week to 2 weeks. Add into that an additional 3 days waiting for Gamlen. His year of servitude then begins.
• 2 months - Landsmeet concludes and between travel to Denerim and Redcliffe, the Archdemon is slain.
• Awakening then starts after maybe 2 weeks pass from the Archdemon's death.
• All of Awakening takes place over a course of maybe 6 months at most.
• Anders stays for two more months, but leaves for Kirkwall soon after (Amaranthine is closer to Gwaren than Lothering is). At this point, Hawke still has a few months of servitude left.
• After Hawke's year ends, he now tries to prepare for the Deep Roads. I'd wager that takes place over the course of a month or two, having to do odd jobs from here and there (not counting the 2 weeks spent in the Deep Roads)
• GoA takes place maybe between 1 month - 3 months after Anders leaves
• I doubt Witch Hunt takes place two and a half years after the Archdemon's death though. Where it falls I don't know

the only thing i see wrong with this is that It's stated that awakenings takes place 6 months after the the events of origins, not just a few weeks after the archdemon's death.

[TEWR]

where's that stated?

also, has anyone considered that years in Thedas might consist of more than 12 months?

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 26 avril 2011 - 06:24 .

[Nepenthe87]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

where's that stated?

also, has anyone considered that years in Thedas might consist of more than 12 months?

Someone posted the direct quote earlier in the thread, but i checked the wiki which also says it:

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Awakening

Modifié par Nepenthe87, 26 avril 2011 - 06:28 .

[TEWR]

hmmm... I'm skeptical. David Gaider said on another thread "What makes you think Awakening takes place 6 months after Origins?"

So I'm gonna assume it was just marketing that did that 6 months later bit. Plus, we don't know how many months one Thedosian year consists of.

[Viyu]

I would think that it'd be somewhat similar to ours. It'd seem utterly cheap otherwise. The context of a Thedosian year is not expanded upon, so it's natural the player would assume it's comparable to ours. I think its more important to focus on what will likely confuse fans rather than get into technicalities.